j_crazy wrote: i loved the officiating in that game. let them play on a lot of tough shots and loose balls, but called a great game. anyone complaining about the refs is either a butler fanboy (unlikely) or they blindly and indiscriminatly hate duke (very likely) and don't think they earned anything.

How long till someone complains about the refs?

Prescott wrote: Matt Howard's inability to finish around the basket early in the game.He had three makeable shots around the basket and came up empty.

The Bulldogs had their chances, but a few critical baskets did not go their way.

Three layups in the beginning 4 minutes are CRITICAL????

Prescott wrote:

Three layups in the beginning 4 minutes are CRITICAL????

In a game where points are so difficult to come by, any missed opportunities around the basket are CRITICAL.It has nothing to do with the time in the game.

Prescott wrote: What is the score if Howard makes 2 of those 3 lay-ins?? They were critical misses.

It's always nice to debate a person with such insight and who chooses to name call as opposed to debate.

Have a nice day.

lhslep134 wrote:

Prescott wrote: What is the score if Howard makes 2 of those 3 lay-ins?? They were critical misses.

It's always nice to debate a person with such insight and who chooses to name call as opposed to debate.

Have a nice day.

What's there to debate? If he makes those layups then Duke is tied 6-6 instead of up 6-0. You're telling me that it makes a SIGNIFICANT change in the outcome of a game, when in all reality the first minutes are quite meaningless. You're just plain wrong, there isn't anything to debate.

ANYONE who thinks missed layups in the first 2 minutes of the game are critical knows nothing about basketball, and sorry that includes you. So sorry for calling you names and upsetting you, maybe you should A. grow thicker skin, or B. learn something about basketball.

Howard makes a couple of those bunnies and instead of Butler playing catch-up to Duke in the first half, Butler maybe goes into the half with the lead. It can change the entire dynamic of the game.
Its not as magnified as a missed layup at the end of the game, but it is certainly critical. Those are points that Butler is leaving on the table in a tight game. Howard makes a couple of those bunnies and instead of Butler playing catch-up to Duke in the first half, Butler maybe goes into the half with the lead. It can change the entire dynamic of the game. Someone who writes off leaving easy points on the table against a team the caliber of Duke as not being critical, especially in the outcome of a two point loss, should not be accusing anyone else of needing to learn something about basketball.

jordo212000 wrote: I still can't stop laughing at lhslep. He makes a completely silly point, gets called out by nearly everybody, responds by calling the OP an offensive term, and then runs away from the thread

trep14 wrote:

jordo212000 wrote: I still can't stop laughing at lhslep. He makes a completely silly point, gets called out by nearly everybody, responds by calling the OP an offensive term, and then runs away from the thread

I think we have seen this play out before. Isn't this the same guy who started a thread saying Thaddeus Gibson had personally told him during a student interview that he was going to come back for his senior year, then the very next day Gibson declared for the NFL draft, followed by lhslep dropping a racial slur after getting his balls busted by everyone?

EDIT: yup here it is

http://www.ohiochatter.com/Thread-From-His-Mouth-Gibson-is-returning-to-OSU

Keebler wrote: I have to agree with trep14 and Prescott. Maybe those 3 shots are unnoticed in the highlight reel but when you go back, look at the game tape, those 3 layups are HUGE.

trep14 wrote:

jordo212000 wrote: I still can't stop laughing at lhslep. He makes a completely silly point, gets called out by nearly everybody, responds by calling the OP an offensive term, and then runs away from the thread

I think we have seen this play out before. Isn't this the same guy who started a thread saying Thaddeus Gibson had personally told him during a student interview that he was going to come back for his senior year, then the very next day Gibson declared for the NFL draft, followed by lhslep dropping a racial slur after getting his balls busted by everyone?

EDIT: yup here it is

http://www.ohiochatter.com/Thread-From-His-Mouth-Gibson-is-returning-to-OSU

That thread still makes me LOL.

lhslep134 wrote: You guys can say whatever you want, but I'd much rather have my team miss 3 layups in the beginning of the game not the end of the game.

What you fail to take into account are all of the peripheral factors that go into a made basket.

Depending on the amount of time left, a shot carries a lot more sway and momentum in the second half, BY FAR. If this weren't true, then we wouldn't see so many damn large comebacks over the second half of a game. Not the mention in the college game, the pressure that these kids are under. It's a lot easier to lose your cool when you miss a layup in the second half as opposed to the first half.

Also, it puts a lot more pressure on both teams when a layup that could have cut it to 54-52 misses than one that would have made it 6-4. I honestly cannot see why you guys are so ignorant to this fact. It's blowing my mind.