thavoice wrote:

Trueblue23 wrote:

LTrain23 wrote: People who smoke Marijuana should be drilled by moving automobiles.

0 deaths is a crock of BS. In the real drug world, people are being killed over this all the time.

Until it's legalized, you should donate your body to help smuggle it.

If it was legal that black market wouldn't exist

Sure it would still exist. Ya wouldnt have pot stores all over the place..but the dealers would still be able to offer that type of service.

So..zero deaths huh.....

yeah right.

gut wrote:

I Wear Pants wrote:That attitude is the same attitude displayed by the bad guys in many works of dystopian fiction.

No it's not. I'm cool with it if they don't burden my healthcare and other costs (read: remove social/safety nets). But when I have to pay for other people's addictions and mistakes, I do have an issue with it.

I assume you don't advocate stealing cable. So why is it ok to effectively steal my hard-earned income by burdening the system with your own transgressions?

thavoice wrote: Not close. Alcohol was already legal...then illegal...then legal again and was and is sold in many many places.

Would pot be sold any place like alcohol? Plus..I imagine alot of places wouldnt sell it if it became legal. Grocery stores.....gas stations.......i imagine a number of places wont sell pot even it it was legal.

so...yeah...there is gonna be the demand out there for it for people to go buy it from the dealers...

krazie45 wrote:

gut wrote:

I Wear Pants wrote:That attitude is the same attitude displayed by the bad guys in many works of dystopian fiction.

No it's not. I'm cool with it if they don't burden my healthcare and other costs (read: remove social/safety nets). But when I have to pay for other people's addictions and mistakes, I do have an issue with it.

I assume you don't advocate stealing cable. So why is it ok to effectively steal my hard-earned income by burdening the system with your own transgressions?

Again, you are assuming people are smoking it and therefore harming their health over a long period of time. However, once again, you simply ignore that fact that when vaporized or ingested there are pretty much no adverse health effects.

But even then your argument topples like a house of cards. What if I said that I'm sick of my tax dollars going to treat alcoholics with liver disease? Alcohol should be illegal! Or if I was sick of my tax dollars paying for fat people that get heart attacks? Fatty foods should be illegal! Or that cigarette smokers are taking my tax dollars with their lung cancer? Tobacco should be illegal!

Do you see finally see where your argument fails, or are you just going to keep repeating the same stuff and figure that if you just keep saying it everyone (including yourself) will believe it's correct?

Glory Days wrote: how many people actually vaporize weed? i mean, i only knew a handful of people who smoked it, but i dont remember any of them talking about plugging in the vaporizor to get high.

your argument fell just as fast as a house of cards also. alcohol, tobacco, driving, and bad food is all regulated by the government(and alcohol and tobacco are illegal for some). haha and now the tanning will be taxed according to the rumors i hear about the new health care bill. all of the those things that cost us money as tax payers are regulated by the government.

krazie45 wrote:

Glory Days wrote: how many people actually vaporize weed? i mean, i only knew a handful of people who smoked it, but i dont remember any of them talking about plugging in the vaporizor to get high.

your argument fell just as fast as a house of cards also. alcohol, tobacco, driving, and bad food is all regulated by the government(and alcohol and tobacco are illegal for some). haha and now the tanning will be taxed according to the rumors i hear about the new health care bill. all of the those things that cost us money as tax payers are regulated by the government.

Plenty of people do because it's the safer option. I know several people who use a vaporizer, or bake it into food, butter, use it in tea, etc.

All of those things you mentioned are also legal, are you arguing they should be made illegal. I'm not policy maker but I'd think that marijuana would be illegal for those under 21 and illegal to drive while under the influence of....just like alcohol. Your name should be stretch armstrong for how much you've reached for your arguments.

Glory Days wrote:

krazie45 wrote:

Glory Days wrote: how many people actually vaporize weed? i mean, i only knew a handful of people who smoked it, but i dont remember any of them talking about plugging in the vaporizor to get high.

your argument fell just as fast as a house of cards also. alcohol, tobacco, driving, and bad food is all regulated by the government(and alcohol and tobacco are illegal for some). haha and now the tanning will be taxed according to the rumors i hear about the new health care bill. all of the those things that cost us money as tax payers are regulated by the government.

Plenty of people do because it's the safer option. I know several people who use a vaporizer, or bake it into food, butter, use it in tea, etc.

All of those things you mentioned are also legal, are you arguing they should be made illegal. I'm not policy maker but I'd think that marijuana would be illegal for those under 21 and illegal to drive while under the influence of....just like alcohol. Your name should be stretch armstrong for how much you've reached for your arguments.

you really think the government could regulate marijuana?

Glory Days wrote: so why not cocaine, heroin, meth....

Glory Days wrote: so why not cocaine, heroin, meth....

Glory Days wrote: so why not cocaine, heroin, meth....

Bigdogg wrote:

Glory Days wrote: so why not cocaine, heroin, meth....

Because there are no know health benefits from that shit.

The American Academy of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, Inc. considers cocaine to be a valuable anesthetic and vasoconstricting agent when used as part of the treatment of a patient by a physician. No other single drug combines the anesthetic and vasoconstricting properties of cocaine.

krazie45 wrote:

Glory Days wrote: so why not cocaine, heroin, meth....

Because those are not comparable. Those are drugs that

1. Are physically addictive(so is alcohol, cigarettes, and caffeine)
2. Are harmful to the body no matter how taken (according to some on here, everything we put in our body is)
3. Are not natural substances (cocaine and opium come from plants)
4. Are far behind marijuana in usage in the world (where is marijuana in relation to alcohol and cigs?)
5. Cannot be used for other purposes such as rope, clothing, shampoos, paper, etc. (what can tobacco be used for?)
6. Have no medicinal value (refer to my last post)
7. Are HARD drugs.(well....thats just your opinion...man haha)

Should I go on? The reaching continues lol

krazie45 wrote: Not really, considering most of your comments in parentheses reference legal substances (alcohol, tobacco, caffeine), leading you to compare marijuana to legal substances. As for your one question, marijuana is #3 after alcohol and cigarettes...which is impressive considering it's the only one of those that are illegal.

One more thing, people have died from overdosing on the drugs you mentioned (cocaine, heroin, meth). There is no account of anyone ever overdosing from marijuana use. So can you please stop embarrassing yourself?

I'm especially surprised how you, who seem to be so concerned about what your tax dollars are wasted for, is opposed to $14 billion a year in additional government revenue.

Glory Days wrote:

krazie45 wrote:

gut wrote:

I Wear Pants wrote:That attitude is the same attitude displayed by the bad guys in many works of dystopian fiction.

No it's not. I'm cool with it if they don't burden my healthcare and other costs (read: remove social/safety nets). But when I have to pay for other people's addictions and mistakes, I do have an issue with it.

I assume you don't advocate stealing cable. So why is it ok to effectively steal my hard-earned income by burdening the system with your own transgressions?

Again, you are assuming people are smoking it and therefore harming their health over a long period of time. However, once again, you simply ignore that fact that when vaporized or ingested there are pretty much no adverse health effects.

But even then your argument topples like a house of cards. What if I said that I'm sick of my tax dollars going to treat alcoholics with liver disease? Alcohol should be illegal! Or if I was sick of my tax dollars paying for fat people that get heart attacks? Fatty foods should be illegal! Or that cigarette smokers are taking my tax dollars with their lung cancer? Tobacco should be illegal!

Do you see finally see where your argument fails, or are you just going to keep repeating the same stuff and figure that if you just keep saying it everyone (including yourself) will believe it's correct?

how many people actually vaporize weed? i mean, i only knew a handful of people who smoked it, but i dont remember any of them talking about plugging in the vaporizor to get high.

your argument fell just as fast as a house of cards also. alcohol, tobacco, driving, and bad food is all regulated by the government(and alcohol and tobacco are illegal for some). haha and now the tanning will be taxed according to the rumors i hear about the new health care bill. all of the those things that cost us money as tax payers are regulated by the government.

Glory Days wrote:

krazie45 wrote: Not really, considering most of your comments in parentheses reference legal substances (alcohol, tobacco, caffeine), leading you to compare marijuana to legal substances. As for your one question, marijuana is #3 after alcohol and cigarettes...which is impressive considering it's the only one of those that are illegal.

One more thing, people have died from overdosing on the drugs you mentioned (cocaine, heroin, meth). There is no account of anyone ever overdosing from marijuana use. So can you please stop embarrassing yourself?

I'm especially surprised how you, who seem to be so concerned about what your tax dollars are wasted for, is opposed to $14 billion a year in additional government revenue.

yeah, thats my point. if you make marijuana legal, people will use the same arguments to make other drugs legal. which is fine if you believe all drugs should be legal. but if you believe marijuana should be and other shouldnt, you cant use those arguments. plus since alcohol call kill from overdose, so to keep the "harder" drugs illegal when marijuana becomes legal, we would have to prohibit alcohol.

and if marijuana were legal, it would not be close to 14 billion since we know the government could not regulate it.

Glory Days wrote: yeah, thats my point. if you make marijuana legal, people will use the same arguments to make other drugs legal. which is fine if you believe all drugs should be legal. but if you believe marijuana should be and other shouldnt, you cant use those arguments. plus since alcohol call kill from overdose, so to keep the "harder" drugs illegal when marijuana becomes legal, we would have to prohibit alcohol.

and if marijuana were legal, it would not be close to 14 billion since we know the government could not regulate it.

Fab1b wrote: I also do not fall for pot is the gateway drug! If that is the case so is any pill, injectible, liquid, etc...they like the feeling from those they may be very inclined to take it to the next level too heck alcohol is probably more of the gateway than anything. As someone who has gone through a ton of weed in his days I never wanted to take it to the next level after a little pot. Never did it cross my mind to snort anything, put a needle in my arm, swallow a handful of pills, etc.....

I Wear Pants wrote:

Glory Days wrote:

krazie45 wrote:

gut wrote:

I Wear Pants wrote:That attitude is the same attitude displayed by the bad guys in many works of dystopian fiction.

No it's not. I'm cool with it if they don't burden my healthcare and other costs (read: remove social/safety nets). But when I have to pay for other people's addictions and mistakes, I do have an issue with it.

I assume you don't advocate stealing cable. So why is it ok to effectively steal my hard-earned income by burdening the system with your own transgressions?

Again, you are assuming people are smoking it and therefore harming their health over a long period of time. However, once again, you simply ignore that fact that when vaporized or ingested there are pretty much no adverse health effects.

But even then your argument topples like a house of cards. What if I said that I'm sick of my tax dollars going to treat alcoholics with liver disease? Alcohol should be illegal! Or if I was sick of my tax dollars paying for fat people that get heart attacks? Fatty foods should be illegal! Or that cigarette smokers are taking my tax dollars with their lung cancer? Tobacco should be illegal!

Do you see finally see where your argument fails, or are you just going to keep repeating the same stuff and figure that if you just keep saying it everyone (including yourself) will believe it's correct?

how many people actually vaporize weed? i mean, i only knew a handful of people who smoked it, but i dont remember any of them talking about plugging in the vaporizor to get high.

your argument fell just as fast as a house of cards also. alcohol, tobacco, driving, and bad food is all regulated by the government(and alcohol and tobacco are illegal for some). haha and now the tanning will be taxed according to the rumors i hear about the new health care bill. all of the those things that cost us money as tax payers are regulated by the government.

Exactly, regulated by the government. Why are you so opposed to marijuana being regulated?