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Gardens35

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Apr 5, 2010 9:23 PM
I Wear Pants wrote:
Gardens35 wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote: What does that have to do with anything?
Every name's an alias in case somebody squeals.
What?
It's the lure of easy money.....it's got a very strong appeal.
Apr 5, 2010 9:23pm
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Apr 5, 2010 9:42 PM
Gardens35 wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote:
Gardens35 wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote: What does that have to do with anything?
Every name's an alias in case somebody squeals.
What?
It's the lure of easy money.....it's got a very strong appeal.
Again...what?
Apr 5, 2010 9:42pm
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Apr 5, 2010 9:46 PM
I think he's high. :)
Apr 5, 2010 9:46pm
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Apr 5, 2010 9:50 PM
Above the Influence?

How about Above the Ignorance.
Apr 5, 2010 9:50pm
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Gardens35

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Apr 5, 2010 9:50 PM
I Wear Pants wrote:
Gardens35 wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote:
Gardens35 wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote: What does that have to do with anything?
Every name's an alias in case somebody squeals.
What?
It's the lure of easy money.....it's got a very strong appeal.
Again...what?
Sorry it went down like this but someone had to lose.
Apr 5, 2010 9:50pm
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Apr 5, 2010 9:57 PM
Do you guys know how bad weed would suck if it were legalized? Ciggs used to be all tobacco and rolled at home....now they are filled with chemicals and carcinogens. I don't smoke anymore, but legalizing pot would really put the integrity of the current product in detriment.
Apr 5, 2010 9:57pm
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Apr 5, 2010 11:14 PM
I Wear Pants wrote:
Glory Days wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote: A dude shoots someone in the chest while committing a robbery, his lawyer knocks his sentence down to 6 years.

A dude gets his door kicked in and his house searched by the cops and they find a few pounds of weed, he gets 10-15.

Who is the criminal?
talk about not paying attention, just stop now. Average murder sentences are 16 years. in the example you gave, that would be aggravated murder, so its either a life sentence(with parole eligible after 25 years) or death. Drug possession is about a 4-5 month sentence. Drug trafficking is about a 6 year sentence. All marijuana sentences combined average about 3-4 years. and both types of cases, murders and drugs, can be knocked down. i dont know why you just picked murders.
He never said the dude that got shot died.

What is the average sentence for attempted murder?
Life, its the same punishment as the crime they attempted to commit(aggravated murder).
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sonofsam wrote:
queencitybuckeye wrote:
sonofsam wrote: Of the weed that has been seized in transport has shown that 94% of it was soaked in human urine to make it less detectable by drug dogs...
Which would go to zero percent were it made legal.
How many cancer causing agents are in one cigarette? Smoking ONE joint is equivalent to 100 cigarettes... Can you imagine the "crap" they would put in them if they were legal to make??? Population control kinda shit.
That's not true at all.
Fab1b wrote: 1 joint = 100 cigs, come on
it contains 50-70% more carcinogens than cigarettes
http://www.drugabuse.gov/PDF/RRMarijuana.pdf
Fab1b wrote:
bamagirl wrote: The difference is while I have to take a Migraine pill to get through the day it actually has medical benefits. I don't see the point of pot...or legalizing it since it's medical benefits are limited to one medical issue. As I said from the get go.

Really that is your reply, like one said what is the medicinal value of alcohol, tobacco, etc.....and the green has many medicinal values and is used in many forms to treat several ailments including cancer, glaucoma, pain issues, the list goes on and on....
there is legal drug that uses synthetic THC that is more effective than medical marijuana. it is also pretty well documented that alcohol in moderation is good for your heart.
Apr 5, 2010 11:14pm
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I Wear Pants

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Apr 5, 2010 11:18 PM
Notice that your link was a .gov link. Of course they tell you that weed will make you murder your mother.

And you're saying that the average sentence for attempted murder is life? I highly doubt that. Especially since you said "Average murder sentences are 16 years. ".
Apr 5, 2010 11:18pm
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Apr 5, 2010 11:23 PM
Glory Days wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote:
Glory Days wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote: A dude shoots someone in the chest while committing a robbery, his lawyer knocks his sentence down to 6 years.

A dude gets his door kicked in and his house searched by the cops and they find a few pounds of weed, he gets 10-15.

Who is the criminal?
talk about not paying attention, just stop now. Average murder sentences are 16 years. in the example you gave, that would be aggravated murder, so its either a life sentence(with parole eligible after 25 years) or death. Drug possession is about a 4-5 month sentence. Drug trafficking is about a 6 year sentence. All marijuana sentences combined average about 3-4 years. and both types of cases, murders and drugs, can be knocked down. i dont know why you just picked murders.
He never said the dude that got shot died.

What is the average sentence for attempted murder?
Life, its the same punishment as the crime they attempted to commit(aggravated murder).
I Wear Pants wrote:
sonofsam wrote:
queencitybuckeye wrote:
sonofsam wrote: Of the weed that has been seized in transport has shown that 94% of it was soaked in human urine to make it less detectable by drug dogs...
Which would go to zero percent were it made legal.
How many cancer causing agents are in one cigarette? Smoking ONE joint is equivalent to 100 cigarettes... Can you imagine the "crap" they would put in them if they were legal to make??? Population control kinda shit.
That's not true at all.
Fab1b wrote: 1 joint = 100 cigs, come on
it contains 50-70% more carcinogens than cigarettes
http://www.drugabuse.gov/PDF/RRMarijuana.pdf
Fab1b wrote:
bamagirl wrote: The difference is while I have to take a Migraine pill to get through the day it actually has medical benefits. I don't see the point of pot...or legalizing it since it's medical benefits are limited to one medical issue. As I said from the get go.

Really that is your reply, like one said what is the medicinal value of alcohol, tobacco, etc.....and the green has many medicinal values and is used in many forms to treat several ailments including cancer, glaucoma, pain issues, the list goes on and on....
there is legal drug that uses synthetic THC that is more effective than medical marijuana. it is also pretty well documented that alcohol in moderation is good for your heart.
Here is why arguing with an idiot is completely pointless.
Apr 5, 2010 11:23pm
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Apr 5, 2010 11:27 PM
Can you show me something not written by the govt that shows 1 joint is = 100 cigs? I am not saying smoking a joint is good for your lungs but I am willing to be bet a cig contains more carcinogens. If I am just smoking straight bud off the plant no chemicals added, through a pipe where are the harmful chemicals that are added to cigs? Of course there are natural carcinogens as well. If I use a paper sure there will be chemicals in a paper if I roll a joint.
Apr 5, 2010 11:27pm
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Apr 5, 2010 11:39 PM
I Wear Pants wrote: Notice that your link was a .gov link. Of course they tell you that weed will make you murder your mother.

And you're saying that the average sentence for attempted murder is life? I highly doubt that.
well atleast i see you went and looked at the resources and not just the link. great job.
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Glory Days wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote:
Glory Days wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote: A dude shoots someone in the chest while committing a robbery, his lawyer knocks his sentence down to 6 years.

A dude gets his door kicked in and his house searched by the cops and they find a few pounds of weed, he gets 10-15.

Who is the criminal?
talk about not paying attention, just stop now. Average murder sentences are 16 years. in the example you gave, that would be aggravated murder, so its either a life sentence(with parole eligible after 25 years) or death. Drug possession is about a 4-5 month sentence. Drug trafficking is about a 6 year sentence. All marijuana sentences combined average about 3-4 years. and both types of cases, murders and drugs, can be knocked down. i dont know why you just picked murders.
He never said the dude that got shot died.

What is the average sentence for attempted murder?
Life, its the same punishment as the crime they attempted to commit(aggravated murder).
I Wear Pants wrote:
sonofsam wrote:
queencitybuckeye wrote:
sonofsam wrote: Of the weed that has been seized in transport has shown that 94% of it was soaked in human urine to make it less detectable by drug dogs...
Which would go to zero percent were it made legal.
How many cancer causing agents are in one cigarette? Smoking ONE joint is equivalent to 100 cigarettes... Can you imagine the "crap" they would put in them if they were legal to make??? Population control kinda shit.
That's not true at all.
Fab1b wrote: 1 joint = 100 cigs, come on
it contains 50-70% more carcinogens than cigarettes
http://www.drugabuse.gov/PDF/RRMarijuana.pdf
Fab1b wrote:
bamagirl wrote: The difference is while I have to take a Migraine pill to get through the day it actually has medical benefits. I don't see the point of pot...or legalizing it since it's medical benefits are limited to one medical issue. As I said from the get go.

Really that is your reply, like one said what is the medicinal value of alcohol, tobacco, etc.....and the green has many medicinal values and is used in many forms to treat several ailments including cancer, glaucoma, pain issues, the list goes on and on....
there is legal drug that uses synthetic THC that is more effective than medical marijuana. it is also pretty well documented that alcohol in moderation is good for your heart.
Here is why arguing with an idiot is completely pointless.
very well thought out response. i am glad you added your worthless sense to this thread.
Apr 5, 2010 11:39pm
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Apr 5, 2010 11:42 PM
Fab1b wrote: Can you show me something not written by the govt that shows 1 joint is = 100 cigs? I am not saying smoking a joint is good for your lungs but I am willing to be bet a cig contains more carcinogens. If I am just smoking straight bud off the plant no chemicals added, through a pipe where are the harmful chemicals that are added to cigs? Of course there are natural carcinogens as well. If I use a paper sure there will be chemicals in a paper if I roll a joint.
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2007/12/20/Toxic-chemicals-found-in-marijuana/UPI-63301198127783/

OTTAWA, Dec. 20 (UPI) -- A Canadian report says marijuana smoke contains more toxic compounds, including ammonia and hydrogen cyanide, than tobacco smoke.

Researchers, including David Moir of the Safe Environments Program in Kitchener, Ontario, determined ammonia levels were 20 times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke, while hydrogen cyanide, nitric oxide and certain aromatic amines occurred at levels 3-5 times higher in the marijuana smoke, Science Daily said Tuesday.

The study was published in the Dec. 17 issue of American Chemical Society's journal Chemical Research in Toxicology


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090805110741.htm
haha here is what livestrong.com says, although they use the Dept. of Health:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/12462-marijuana/
Apr 5, 2010 11:42pm
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Apr 5, 2010 11:43 PM
lol
Apr 5, 2010 11:43pm
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Apr 5, 2010 11:55 PM
That report said 20 times. Which last time I checked wasn't the same as 100 times.
Apr 5, 2010 11:55pm
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Apr 5, 2010 11:55 PM
wow this thread is blowin up....i saw something that said that its down to 55 percent of people who dont think it should be legalized that is the lowest number yet...i think it was on bill mahr(spelling) show
Apr 5, 2010 11:55pm
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I Wear Pants

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Apr 5, 2010 11:56 PM
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20051017/pot-smoke-less-carcinogenic-than-tobacco

Those other studies don't take into account any benefits from the THC so it's likely less harmful than they would like you to think.

We aren't arguing that it's good for you or that it can't cause cancer or that you should be allowed to drive while high. But I still fail to see why marijuana is especially worse, or worse at all, than many other completely legal substances.
Apr 5, 2010 11:56pm
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Apr 5, 2010 11:59 PM
And you wouldn't be at risk for lung cancer or asthma if you didn't smoke marijuana. Which isn't the only way to use it.
Apr 5, 2010 11:59pm
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Apr 6, 2010 12:12 AM
I Wear Pants wrote: That report said 20 times. Which last time I checked wasn't the same as 100 times.
i never wrote "100 times" either.
Apr 6, 2010 12:12am
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Gardens35

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Apr 6, 2010 12:16 AM
Perhaps you'd understand it better standing in my shoes. It's the nature of the business...
Apr 6, 2010 12:16am
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Apr 6, 2010 12:41 AM
Gardens35 wrote: Perhaps you'd understand it better standing in my shoes. It's the nature of the business...
I don't think so.
Apr 6, 2010 12:41am
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Apr 6, 2010 12:41 AM
This argument again? How many times can we have this argument? People aren't going to change their opinions. We should just put it to a vote in this country. If it passes, it passes. If not, continue making money on the black market.
Apr 6, 2010 12:41am
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Apr 6, 2010 12:41 AM
Glory Days wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote: That report said 20 times. Which last time I checked wasn't the same as 100 times.
i never wrote "100 times" either.
Someone did. Let's get them. Pitchforks out!
Apr 6, 2010 12:41am
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Apr 6, 2010 12:45 AM
Let me add that I think we should vote on the legality of alcohol and cigarettes as well.
Apr 6, 2010 12:45am
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Apr 6, 2010 12:48 AM
Then we should vote on it every ten years or something. Because it's an outrage that the beliefs of one generation so affect those of another.
Apr 6, 2010 12:48am