salto;1874379 wrote:Should Stephen Paddock be considered a terrorist?

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

queencitybuckeye;1874387 wrote:Until we find out that the fully-automatic weapons this POS had were legally-owned (I'd give 20-1 that they are not), anyone who goes on the air and uses the term "common sense gun control" (and they will) is gleefully dancing on the graves of the victims.

SQ;1874382 wrote:This is the obvious answer. There's too many guns for any ban or regulation to be effective at this point. The problem is our country decided decades ago we don't want to pay for mental health anymore. Maybe we'll see the light. It won't just help gun violence, but drug epidemic too.

justincredible;1874386 wrote:Did he carry out this shooting for political aims? Does the label even matter? If he's considered a terrorist, what changes?

Terrorism:

salto;1874395 wrote:Yea, that is what I'm asking. What changes is knowing if he was just a disgruntled nut-job who was recently fired (whatever) or if actually a terrorist act, political reasons.

Don't you want to know why he did it?

like_that;1874394 wrote: I will also wait for the details, but my money is on the weapons he used were not legal considering the damage he did in so little time.

Also taking this from the other thread:

I don't want to argue about taxpayers paying for this, but mental health is never talked about when this shit happens. I remember reading a few months ago, that 90% of mass shooters were prescribed SSRIs or stopped taking them. My generation (millennials) were the first to be prescribed this shit from childhood and I think we are seeing the fucked up side effects.

queencitybuckeye;1874396 wrote:Would the reason make me feel more or less safe going forward? Not really.

salto;1874397 wrote:You'll wait for the details, but still offer your opinion. Got it, thanks.

Lets also discuss how easy it is for mentally ill people to legally obtain gun licenses.

salto;1874397 wrote:You'll wait for the details, but still offer your opinion. Got it, thanks.

Lets also discuss how easy it is for mentally ill people to legally obtain gun licenses.

queencitybuckeye;1874402 wrote:One for fully-automatic weapons? Very difficult.

justincredible;1874404 wrote:Ok. How easy is it for the mentally ill to legally obtain gun licenses?

salto;1874405 wrote:Don't be naive. Anyone with some basic tools can turn a semi auto rifle, like the AR 15, into full auto. They also legally sell bump stops, which turns semi-auto into a (nearly) full auto speed of shot.

Go 07:00 minutes into video. Does that sound almost full auto speed to you?

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salto;1874405 wrote:Don't be naive. Anyone with some basic tools can turn a semi auto rifle, like the AR 15, into full auto. They also legally sell bump stops, which turns semi-auto into a (nearly) full auto speed of shot.

Go 07:00 minutes into video. Does that sound almost full auto speed to you?

[video=youtube;xTuOfgOITUo][/video]

salto;1874405 wrote:Don't be naive. Anyone with some basic tools can turn a semi auto rifle, like the AR 15, into full auto.

queencitybuckeye;1874409 wrote:Not remotely.

like_that;1874410 wrote:I want to hear said's solution since there are already laws in place to prevent tragedies like this from happening.

like_that;1874407 wrote:So wait, you're telling me there are means to make things illegal or get our hands on things that are illegal?

salto;1874413 wrote:lol bull shit. Watch for more than 2 seconds.

queencitybuckeye;1874411 wrote:and doing so is as illegal as buying one without the proper license. Quit changing the subject. The problem is lack of laws or it is not. The answer is not in serious dispute.

salto;1874415 wrote:I never said I had a solution but there is a problem. Don't you agree?

queencitybuckeye;1874417 wrote:No need, seen them heard them. My answer is correct.