Doesn't mean Mangini couldn't make changes to the staff.IggyPride00 wrote: I guess Mangini and Staff includes Daboll doesn't it ?
Why wouldn't he at least want to give Holmgren an interview.devil1197 wrote: Why goodbye to Heckert? He may or may not like Mangini it was never stated.
But we have a new main guy in Cleveland and his name is Holmgren. If Heckert likes Holmgren then its a good possibility he will join.
Face it, a guy wouldn't interview for the same job twice if he knew there was a good chance Mangini was going to stay on as the coach. Also, why leave the Eagles to interview for the Browns twice??
I agree that the CBA debacle has a bit to do with it.IggyPride00 wrote: I think were it not for the fact there is a good possibility we might not see a 2011 season, Mangini would have been gone and Homgren would have cleaned house.
There is too much unknown out there concerning how the CBA ends up when the eventually reach a deal, so it probably is best for continuity sake to keep Mangini for next year and unless there is drastic improvement you fire him, get someone like Gruden (or Holmgren himself as I think he wants to leave that option open) and then go from there starting fresh.
Then you have to wait until Philly loses to announce that. What if the Eagles make the SB, are you going to wait almost a month to announce whether or not your keeping Mangini.Junior Samples wrote: I think if Heckert was going to be hired, they would have waited to announce Mangini's return so that he could have pretended that he was involved in the decision.
Or give him the title of Vice President of Football Operations...then not a lateral move and still won't have final say on roster...DaBrowns41 wrote:Why wouldn't he at least want to give Holmgren an interview.devil1197 wrote: Why goodbye to Heckert? He may or may not like Mangini it was never stated.
But we have a new main guy in Cleveland and his name is Holmgren. If Heckert likes Holmgren then its a good possibility he will join.
Face it, a guy wouldn't interview for the same job twice if he knew there was a good chance Mangini was going to stay on as the coach. Also, why leave the Eagles to interview for the Browns twice??
I think Heckert goes with the Seahawks, and it just won't work with the GM having control of the 53 man roster (which has to happen if we take Heckert on a lateral move from Philly). That was one of the big problems with Kokonis, we had to give him say in the 53 man roster, and he and Mangini (who were good friends) clashed, big time. Imagine how Heckert will do with Mangini.
I'm not completely ruling Heckert out, I'm just saying it's highly unlikely.
Very good point. If they fired Mangini and there is no 2011 season, they would be paying two coaches for doing nothing. My prediction is that Mangini will be fired in the second half of next season and Holmgren will finish the year.IggyPride00 wrote: I think were it not for the fact there is a good possibility we might not see a 2011 season, Mangini would have been gone and Homgren would have cleaned house.
There is too much unknown out there concerning how the CBA ends up when the eventually reach a deal, so it probably is best for continuity sake to keep Mangini for next year and unless there is drastic improvement you fire him, get someone like Gruden (or Holmgren himself as I think he wants to leave that option open) and then go from there starting fresh.
What if we continue to see progress next season and we improve our record? Still fire Mangini?Al Capone wrote:Very good point. If they fired Mangini and there is no 2011 season, they would be paying two coaches for doing nothing. My prediction is that Mangini will be fired in the second half of next season and Holmgren will finish the year.IggyPride00 wrote: I think were it not for the fact there is a good possibility we might not see a 2011 season, Mangini would have been gone and Homgren would have cleaned house.
There is too much unknown out there concerning how the CBA ends up when the eventually reach a deal, so it probably is best for continuity sake to keep Mangini for next year and unless there is drastic improvement you fire him, get someone like Gruden (or Holmgren himself as I think he wants to leave that option open) and then go from there starting fresh.
Absolutely you keep him. I just dont see your record improving.pkebker wrote:What if we continue to see progress next season and we improve our record? Still fire Mangini?Al Capone wrote:Very good point. If they fired Mangini and there is no 2011 season, they would be paying two coaches for doing nothing. My prediction is that Mangini will be fired in the second half of next season and Holmgren will finish the year.IggyPride00 wrote: I think were it not for the fact there is a good possibility we might not see a 2011 season, Mangini would have been gone and Homgren would have cleaned house.
There is too much unknown out there concerning how the CBA ends up when the eventually reach a deal, so it probably is best for continuity sake to keep Mangini for next year and unless there is drastic improvement you fire him, get someone like Gruden (or Holmgren himself as I think he wants to leave that option open) and then go from there starting fresh.
