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Mar 22, 2016 10:59 AM
I trust hue Jackson over anybody on this site. If he thinks he can work RG3 and make him successful I'll be on board. God knows we are going to have a top pick next year.
Mar 22, 2016 10:59am
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Mar 22, 2016 11:05 AM
shook_17;1788454 wrote:I trust hue Jackson over anybody on this site. If he thinks he can work RG3 and make him successful I'll be on board. God knows we are going to have a top pick next year.
And this could be part of the thought process. If they think this team is really going to suck (as in 2-14 suck), they may bring someone like RG3 in on a one year deal.

As mentioned, they may not be high on Goff or Wentz and want to roll the dice and see if they can get Deshaun Watson next year? I know there are a lot of "if's" and you can't bank on a player like Watson either being healthy or being the top QB but that could be their mindset.

Either way, there are going to need another QB because we all know McCown is likely to get hurt.
Mar 22, 2016 11:05am
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Mar 22, 2016 11:23 AM
BR1986FB;1788455 wrote:And this could be part of the thought process. If they think this team is really going to suck (as in 2-14 suck), they may bring someone like RG3 in on a one year deal.

As mentioned, they may not be high on Goff or Wentz and want to roll the dice and see if they can get Deshaun Watson next year? I know there are a lot of "if's" and you can't bank on a player like Watson either being healthy or being the top QB but that could be their mindset.

Either way, there are going to need another QB because we all know McCown is likely to get hurt.
Who are some of the other QB's that should come out next year?
Mar 22, 2016 11:23am
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Mar 22, 2016 11:34 AM
Benny The Jet;1788461 wrote:Who are some of the other QB's that should come out next year?
http://walterfootball.com/draft2017QB.php

A name I keep hearing as a "sleeper/later round" QB in this coming draft is Vernon Adams from Oregon. He's a little older (23) but some of these analysts are really loving this guy. Saying he could be "this years Russell Wilson." Could probably be had in the 5th round unless the buzz starts growing more on him. Might be a decent get (not in exchange for a QB at 2, if they go that route) with a compensatory pick if he's still around.
Mar 22, 2016 11:34am
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Mar 22, 2016 12:43 PM
BR1986FB;1788455 wrote:And this could be part of the thought process. If they think this team is really going to suck (as in 2-14 suck), they may bring someone like RG3 in on a one year deal.

As mentioned, they may not be high on Goff or Wentz and want to roll the dice and see if they can get Deshaun Watson next year? I know there are a lot of "if's" and you can't bank on a player like Watson either being healthy or being the top QB but that could be their mindset.

Either way, there are going to need another QB because we all know McCown is likely to get hurt.
Yeah except RG3 might be the 2nd worst QB in the league(or the worst if Manziel isn't picked up).

He's also too big of a name to bring in just to sit behind someone. Bad idea. Bad bad bad.
Mar 22, 2016 12:43pm
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Mar 22, 2016 1:18 PM
RG3 is straight garbage. I thought this team was planning to do it he right way?
Mar 22, 2016 1:18pm
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Mar 22, 2016 1:21 PM
like_that;1788487 wrote:RG3 is straight garbage. I thought this team was planning to do it he right way?
You can't state it any better than that. Straight garbage.
Mar 22, 2016 1:21pm
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Mar 22, 2016 1:25 PM
like_that;1788487 wrote:RG3 is straight garbage. I thought this team was planning to do it he right way?
I highly doubt he'd be brought in to be the solution.
Mar 22, 2016 1:25pm
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Mar 22, 2016 1:26 PM
BR1986FB;1788490 wrote:I highly doubt he'd be brought in to be the solution.
Then it's pointless to have him. We already have a shitty QB in Mccown.
Mar 22, 2016 1:26pm
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Mar 22, 2016 2:07 PM
It really doesn't make any sense. Didn't they learn anything by bringing in the previous media-nuisance (manziel)? It doesn't fucking work.

Why do we always try to be so smart? Just draft a QB at 2, keep mccown to start and mentor, and see how it works out. But no not the Browns, let's bring in Hollywood Johnny and if he fails we'll being in Robert fucking griffin. Smh
Mar 22, 2016 2:07pm
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Mar 22, 2016 2:38 PM
SportsAndLady;1788500 wrote:It really doesn't make any sense. Didn't they learn anything by bringing in the previous media-nuisance (manziel)? It doesn't fucking work.

Why do we always try to be so smart? Just draft a QB at 2, keep mccown to start and mentor, and see how it works out. But no not the Browns, let's bring in Hollywood Johnny and if he fails we'll being in Robert fucking griffin. Smh
Yeah pretty dumb. However, it hasn't happened yet. Hopefully Cowboys sign him or something and save us from ourselves.
Mar 22, 2016 2:38pm
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Mar 22, 2016 3:17 PM
Broncos want him too supposedly. If I were him...not a hard choice between Browns and Broncos.
Mar 22, 2016 3:17pm
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Mar 22, 2016 3:38 PM
Benny The Jet;1788513 wrote:Broncos want him too supposedly. If I were him...not a hard choice between Browns and Broncos.
Browns will pay more.

I hope he goes to the Broncos. If we want a piece of trash at QB, we would have kept Johnny.
Mar 22, 2016 3:38pm
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Mar 22, 2016 3:40 PM
sleeper;1788518 wrote:Browns will pay more.

I hope he goes to the Broncos. If we want a piece of trash at QB, we would have kept Johnny.
If they bring him in, they shouldn't pay him more than what they are paying McCown.
Mar 22, 2016 3:40pm
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Mar 22, 2016 3:41 PM
There will be enormous pressure in Denver and lets say they go to the AFC Championship and lose, he will be blamed. If they win the Super Bowl, well, he won't ever get full credit. Gasp...I'd almost rather choose Cleveland. Expectations for success are so low that just becoming average would be a win.
Mar 22, 2016 3:41pm
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Mar 22, 2016 4:23 PM
Azubuike24;1788520 wrote:There will be enormous pressure in Denver and lets say they go to the AFC Championship and lose, he will be blamed. If they win the Super Bowl, well, he won't ever get full credit. Gasp...I'd almost rather choose Cleveland. Expectations for success are so low that just becoming average would be a win.
If you were him, and you've been killed by injuries...wouldn't you look at what you have in front of you blocking and take the first flight to Denver?
Mar 22, 2016 4:23pm
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Mar 23, 2016 8:13 AM
Jay Glazer ‏@JayGlazer 1h1 hour ago Prevailing feeling among coaches and GMs here in Boca at NFL owners mtg is that most expect Browns to be able to get deal done w RG3
Mar 23, 2016 8:13am
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Mar 23, 2016 10:29 AM
BR1986FB;1788541 wrote:Jay Glazer ‏@JayGlazer 1h1 hour ago Prevailing feeling among coaches and GMs here in Boca at NFL owners mtg is that most expect Browns to be able to get deal done w RG3
Well shit. This is a terrible mistake. I hope the deal is cheap, short, and comes with some many conditions that RG3 needs to hire 3 lawyers to understand if he's getting $5 or $6.
Mar 23, 2016 10:29am
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Mar 23, 2016 10:46 AM
It's only a stupid move if it changes the Browns draft approach. Otherwise, regardless of price (the Browns aren't in dire need of cap space, so might as well spend it), it's a low risk move. Now, if they decide to pass on a QB and think they can find a gem in the 4th or 5th round, it's dumb.
Mar 23, 2016 10:46am
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Mar 23, 2016 10:59 AM
Azubuike24;1788555 wrote:It's only a stupid move if it changes the Browns draft approach. Otherwise, regardless of price (the Browns aren't in dire need of cap space, so might as well spend it), it's a low risk move. Now, if they decide to pass on a QB and think they can find a gem in the 4th or 5th round, it's dumb.
Exactly. Signing Griffin should not change their draft plans at all. Still need to go after a QB at 2 (assuming they think he's worth it).

The biggest issue I have with this (from what I've heard) is that it makes McCown expendable/trade bait. I'd rather have McCown here to groom/mentor a young QB versus Griffin fighting it out/competing with the #2 pick (no mentoring/wouldn't want him mentoring any QB anyhow) for the starting role, which is what I've heard the plan would be.
Mar 23, 2016 10:59am
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Mar 23, 2016 11:19 AM
Azubuike24;1788555 wrote:It's only a stupid move if it changes the Browns draft approach. Otherwise, regardless of price (the Browns aren't in dire need of cap space, so might as well spend it), it's a low risk move. Now, if they decide to pass on a QB and think they can find a gem in the 4th or 5th round, it's dumb.
Spot on. Hopefully this new brass is different than every other brass, but history shows the Browns usually go for a quick fix at QB and play penis flickers in the draft (Delhomme, Dilfer, Garcia, McCown, Seneca Wallace, Jason Campbell, Brian Hoyer) then (McCoy, Weenden, Luke McCown, Frye, Shaw) in the draft.
Mar 23, 2016 11:19am
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Mar 23, 2016 1:06 PM
Goodell is such a power tripping weirdo. Just reinstate him and be done with it.
Mar 23, 2016 1:06pm
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Mar 23, 2016 3:29 PM
Commander of Awesome;1788578 wrote:Basically Roger Goodell can do whatever he wants then? Fuck the rules?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/23/roger-goodell-might-meet-with-josh-gordon-but-isnt-there-yet/
The union fucked up big time during the last CBA when they basically dropped any of the gripes they had with Goodell in order to not miss a paycheck once the lockout got into August. Hopefully they aren't as dumb the next time around.
Mar 23, 2016 3:29pm