Back in the day, guns hadn't been invented and so, no one knew that a headshot was the way to eliminate zombies.Devils Advocate;1607141 wrote:Jesus. The original zombie story. Back from the dead and still eating brains for almost 2 thousand years.
Where did he go?cruiser_96;1607130 wrote:He is risen! Risen indeed!!!
#EmptyTomb
He opened up heaven. Before Jesus died, no one went to heaven because don't you know if a mythical environment god's son must be sent to Earth for a bit, die, and then heaven can be opened. For being an all powerful god who creates the rules, he sure as shit is pretty inefficient on how to handle the afterlife.WebFire;1607371 wrote:Where did he go?
He hung around for roughly 40 additional days - 500 of whom were still alive when Paul was doing his missionary trips. Then he ascended to heaven on the day of Pentecost. Have you not read the account? Check it out - late chapters of the gospels and on into the first few chapters of Acts.WebFire;1607371 wrote:Where did he go?
I thought I was reading the Game of Thrones thread for a second.cruiser_96;1607462 wrote:He hung around for roughly 40 additional days - 500 of whom were still alive when Paul was doing his missionary trips. Then he ascended to heaven on the day of Pentecost. Have you not read the account? Check it out - late chapters of the gospels and on into the first few chapters of Acts.
Curious why did Jesus need to rise again? Was turning water into wine and curing leprosy with the touch of a hand not convincing enough? How did Jesus die the second time? Heart disease?cruiser_96;1607462 wrote:He hung around for roughly 40 additional days - 500 of whom were still alive when Paul was doing his missionary trips. Then he ascended to heaven on the day of Pentecost. Have you not read the account? Check it out - late chapters of the gospels and on into the first few chapters of Acts.
I just feel bad for all the people who lived and died before Christianity took hold. They're fucked; doomed to a hell they never knew existed because they didn't believe in a deity they didn't know existed at the time.sleeper;1607403 wrote:He opened up heaven. Before Jesus died, no one went to heaven because don't you know if a mythical environment god's son must be sent to Earth for a bit, die, and then heaven can be opened. For being an all powerful god who creates the rules, he sure as shit is pretty inefficient on how to handle the afterlife.
Not necessarily. That's been addressed on here before.Heretic;1607482 wrote:I just feel bad for all the people who lived and died before Christianity took hold. They're fucked; doomed to a hell they never knew existed because they didn't believe in a deity they didn't know existed at the time.
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I find the timing of all these events to be fairly suspect as well. God chooses a time to do all these grandiose miracles at a time when 90% of the population was illiterate and with no modern technology to record any of the events.Heretic;1607482 wrote:I just feel bad for all the people who lived and died before Christianity took hold. They're fucked; doomed to a hell they never knew existed because they didn't believe in a deity they didn't know existed at the time.
It's good for the American Indians that Europeans came over here to give them smallpox and slavery while taking their land, because even though it seems like they got the short end of the stick as far as short-term matters go, they learned about their immortal souls and how to achieve salvation, as opposed to their heathen ancestors, who lived in pure freedom with the land, but worshipped foxes and shit, and therefore were eternally damned.
Wow. Just punched your ticket to hell. The Bible says so. It says so because people wrote it thousands of years ago, back when people were burned at the stake for being witches.sleeper;1607487 wrote:
In other words, god is either the biggest dumbass ever
Well, technically, back then, they just had people throw rocks at them until they died because they were too stupid to realize fire was more efficient.dlazz;1607495 wrote:Wow. Just punched your ticket to hell. The Bible says so. It says so because people wrote it thousands of years ago, back when people were burned at the stake for being witches.
After seeing the world god created, hell doesn't sound so bad. People actually want to live with a guy, forever, that created HIV that kills millions of children each year as part of his plan. This is who you worship. LOLdlazz;1607495 wrote:Wow. Just punched your ticket to hell. The Bible says so. It says so because people wrote it thousands of years ago, back when people were burned at the stake for being witches.
Yeah HIV is not a bad thing; tell that to the loved ones of dead children. You're fucking sick. Please tell me more about Adam and Eve and how their decisions affected humanity until the end of time. All powerful god, gives tree to humans that causes all problems in the world. Grow up.cruiser_96;1607510 wrote:Heretic: your assumption that those who lived prior to Christ's birth being out of luck is not true. Read the Old Testament. Exodus and Isaiah are good reads for you to establish that they looked for a coming messiah. We look back in time to ours. Numbers also shares an account on what it would take to be healed of the sickness, which Christ made reference to as John noted in chapter 3 of his gospel.
sleeper: you continually disregard te effects of the choices on the human race that Eve and Adam brought on by choosing to eat from the tree they were instructed not to. Sin has disrupted the whole thing.
The question I have is in your atheistic worldview, why is having HIV a "bad" thing? Or, perhaps, is it not?
This is one of those 'the bible says so, so that means it's true' arguments.cruiser_96;1607510 wrote:Heretic: your assumption that those who lived prior to Christ's birth being out of luck is not true.
You clearly have a lot to learn about the "atheistic universe". Morals are ingrained into every human being even before the invention of religion. Those that follow the basic tenants like not lying, not killing others, etc. will likely survive longer in a community and therefore produce additional offspring. The idea that religion gives us morals is IGNORANT.cruiser_96;1607531 wrote:sleeper: how can a moral judgement be made in an atheistic universe. If, as you state we are just the results of a chain reaction that started from nothing, how then would it be "bad"? Would it not just be what has occurred?
By by stating that it is bad, you assume that there is an ideal world in which bad things would not occur. These types of moral judgements are not consistent with that of a worldview of an atheistic unviserse.
LOL, just fucking LOL.cruiser_96;1607531 wrote:sleeper: how can a moral judgement be made in an atheistic universe. If, as you state we are just the results of a chain reaction that started from nothing, how then would it be "bad"? Would it not just be what has occurred?
By by stating that it is bad, you assume that there is an ideal world in which bad things would not occur. These types of moral judgements are not consistent with that of a worldview of an atheistic unviserse.
Romans 1: 19, 20. Great work! Please continue.sleeper;1607540 wrote:You clearly have a lot to learn about the "atheistic universe". Morals are ingrained into every human being even before the invention of religion. Those that follow the basic tenants like not lying, not killing others, etc. will likely survive longer in a community and therefore produce additional offspring. The idea that religion gives us morals is IGNORANT.
Chain reactions from nothing; good one.
Well in general I don't think innocent children dying from a disease is a good thing but what the hell do I know I don't believe in your fairy tales.cruiser_96;1607576 wrote:Romans 1: 19, 20. Great work! Please continue.
Also, you rail against religion. I'm down with that. But in doing so, I think you confuse theism with religion.
Perhaps "value" would have been a better term. No. How can you state what is "bad" or "good" as if comparing it to an absolute standard of what is good? That's what I was stating.
