sleeper;1584038 wrote:Also LB's drafted in the top 10 last 5 years:

Mingo - Pending
Kuechly - Carolina 12-4 season. Playoffs
Miller - 13-3 season. Super Bowl runner ups
Smith - 12-4 season. NFC runner ups
McClain - 4-12 season. Pryor was starting QB and is 10x better than Manziel will ever be
Curry - 13-3 season. Super Bowl Champions

QB's drafted in the top 10 last 5 years:

Luck - 11-5 season. #1 overall pick; highest rated QB in the draft since Manning. 10000x better than Manziel will ever be.
RG3 - 3-13 season. Bust. Fucking garbage and has screwed the Redskins over for the next decade
Tannehill - 8-8 season. Barely played. Never has won anything.
Newton - 12-4. Playoffs. Success mostly attributed to having one of the best defense in the league.
Locker - 7-9 season. LOL
Gabbert - 4-12 season. LOL
Bradford - 7-9 season. So good.
Stafford - 7-9 season. Apparently Browns fans want to be 7-9
Sanchez - 8-8 season. Out of the league garbage.

and what do those LB's all have in common?

A pretty good damned QB.

sleeper;1584038 wrote:Also LB's drafted in the top 10 last 5 years:

Mingo - Pending
Kuechly - Carolina 12-4 season. Playoffs
Miller - 13-3 season. Super Bowl runner ups
Smith - 12-4 season. NFC runner ups
McClain - 4-12 season. Pryor was starting QB and is 10x better than Manziel will ever be
Curry - 13-3 season. Super Bowl Champions

QB's drafted in the top 10 last 5 years:

Luck - 11-5 season. #1 overall pick; highest rated QB in the draft since Manning. 10000x better than Manziel will ever be.
RG3 - 3-13 season. Bust. Fucking garbage and has screwed the Redskins over for the next decade
Tannehill - 8-8 season. Barely played. Never has won anything.
Newton - 12-4. Playoffs. Success mostly attributed to having one of the best defense in the league.
Locker - 7-9 season. LOL
Gabbert - 4-12 season. LOL
Bradford - 7-9 season. So good.
Stafford - 7-9 season. Apparently Browns fans want to be 7-9
Sanchez - 8-8 season. Out of the league garbage.

Please tell me more about how we need to draft a QB. With the exception of Oakland who are garbage anyway, it looks like drafting a LB in the top ten correlates higher with success than drafting a QB.

Laley23;1584043 wrote:And lol at counting curry for the Seahawks. He hasn't been on that team for like 3 seasons.

thavoice;1584045 wrote:and what do all the LB's have?
A good QB on the other side of the ball.

NIce try there.

Laley23;1584042 wrote:Mingo ain't pending unless RG3 and Tannehill are also.

sleeper;1584038 wrote:Also LB's drafted in the top 10 last 5 years:

Mingo - Pending
Kuechly - Carolina 12-4 season. Playoffs
Miller - 13-3 season. Super Bowl runner ups
Smith - 12-4 season. NFC runner ups
McClain - 4-12 season. Pryor was starting QB and is 10x better than Manziel will ever be
Curry - 13-3 season. Super Bowl Champions

QB's drafted in the top 10 last 5 years:

Luck - 11-5 season. #1 overall pick; highest rated QB in the draft since Manning. 10000x better than Manziel will ever be.
RG3 - 3-13 season. Bust. Fucking garbage and has screwed the Redskins over for the next decade
Tannehill - 8-8 season. Barely played. Never has won anything.
Newton - 12-4. Playoffs. Success mostly attributed to having one of the best defense in the league.
Locker - 7-9 season. LOL
Gabbert - 4-12 season. LOL
Bradford - 7-9 season. So good.
Stafford - 7-9 season. Apparently Browns fans want to be 7-9
Sanchez - 8-8 season. Out of the league garbage.

Please tell me more about how we need to draft a QB. With the exception of Oakland who are garbage anyway, it looks like drafting a LB in the top ten correlates higher with success than drafting a QB.

shook_17;1584050 wrote:lol at the bolded parts. Saying Pryor a better qb than Manziel. Thats why Manziel will be a top 5 pick. Also counting Curry dude hasn't played in 3 seasons and is out of the NFL and Von Miller using steriods, suspended half the season.

Did you forget the records Stafford put up with the lions? I love how flawed your agruement is. RG3 led the redskins to the playoffs last year and didn't play half of the season. Locker hurt all year lol keep making shit up to make your case look good! Thanks for the laughs.

So by your theory LBs win superbowls and QBs. Thank god your not the Browns GM.

Laley23;1584052 wrote:You think Mingo is an all pro LB??

I don't think either are that good (qbs or Mingo)

Point is, if one is pending, so are the others.

sleeper;1584053 wrote:Mingo was a great pick. Now imagine Mingo and Mack lining up in the backfield for the next decade. Fucking scary.

But no, let's draft a QB that won't pan out because QB and wait another decade to make the playoffs.

DeyDurkie5;1584057 wrote:But no, let's draft a LB from the MAC that won't pan out because LB and wait another decade to make the playoffs.

Laley23;1584059 wrote:Mingo showed glimpses of promise. But his numbers line up with BUST.

sleeper;1584061 wrote:It correlates much better than picking a QB at #4. Not sure why you find logic and reason so difficult to understand or why you try so hard to argue against it.

DeyDurkie5;1584065 wrote:No, no it doesn't.

I find it funny that basically everyone that is paid to evaluate these things are saying the browns should take the QB. But yet, you are the one person with "logic" in this world.

sleeper;1584053 wrote:Mingo was a great pick. Now imagine Mingo and Mack lining up in the backfield for the next decade. Fucking scary.

But no, let's draft a QB that won't pan out because QB and wait another decade to make the playoffs.

sleeper;1584066 wrote:Oh I see. Hey Durkie, care to comment on how these paid analysts did on the following QBs:

Luck

Griffin

Tannehill

Newton

Locker

Gabbert

Bradford

Stafford

Sanchez

Ryan

Russell

Young

Leinart

Smith

Manning

Rivers

Palmer

Leftwich

Carr

Harrington

Vick

shook_17;1584068 wrote:stop reading there. He was way over drafted. Not worth a top ten pick.