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2013/14 NBA season chatter - let the LBJ hating begin!

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Jun 11, 2014 11:44 PM
You dont see the issue with that type of Super Super team? In the already embarrassment of a conference that the East is? It wouldnt even be fun to watch more than a few games. Itd be pathetic, IMO. Unless you happen to be a fan of the heat, which im sure thered be even MORE of if this happened.

And no its not like the Yankees just buyin all the best players....its all the best players workin the system to play with eachother instead of tryin to build up their individual teams to battle eachother like it used to be. And as far as all time great teams......aside from having a dominant Center thats quite possibly the best group of 4 players to ever be on a team at one point in time. (I mean when theyre stll good too, not when you have aging players chasing titles and joining forces or what not)
Jun 11, 2014 11:44pm
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Jun 11, 2014 11:45 PM
I worded that wrongly, I do see the issue with it, but I also commend players for being unselfish and putting winning above all. Can't believe Kobe Bryant took 30 mil.
Jun 11, 2014 11:45pm
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Jun 11, 2014 11:50 PM
robj55;1625323 wrote:I worded that wrongly, I do see the issue with it, but I also commend players for being unselfish and putting winning above all. Can't believe Kobe Bryant took 30 mil.
Ok I can agree with that part.


And it doesnt shock me Kobe did that, hes a world class douchebag
Jun 11, 2014 11:50pm
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Jun 11, 2014 11:56 PM
KB0938;1625324 wrote:Ok I can agree with that part.


And it doesnt shock me Kobe did that, hes a world class douchebag
36 years old with basically one or two years left to try and win a title and you take 30 million, makes sense.
Jun 11, 2014 11:56pm
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Jun 12, 2014 6:47 AM
Kobe didn't take 30 mil first of all.

Secondly, there is no way in hell Melo is coming off the bench.

Thirdly, this will happen.
Jun 12, 2014 6:47am
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Jun 12, 2014 8:32 AM
Melo coming off the bench...only on the OC lol
Jun 12, 2014 8:32am
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Jun 12, 2014 8:36 AM
robj55;1625321 wrote:It's not about winning 60 games for that team though, it's all about titles really. Not sure what would be sad about it, maybe more players should sacrifice money for winning, I see no problem with that. This isn't like the Yankees paying everyone on their roster 200 million, there is a salary cap with luxury tax. The NBA has been built on all time great teams.
The NBA's all time great teams have never been built like this, though. Typically, they're built through the draft and free agency/trades. Not a bunch of star players getting together and deciding where to join forces then trying to recruit more. Who even gives a fuck if they sacrifice a little bit of money at this point. They've already accumulated tens of millions of dollars, if not more.
Jun 12, 2014 8:36am
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Jun 12, 2014 9:04 AM
robj55;1625323 wrote:I worded that wrongly, I do see the issue with it, but I also commend players for being unselfish and putting winning above all. Can't believe Kobe Bryant took 30 mil.
LOL. People always seem to forget Lebron was part of a sign and trade thus getting a max deal. Not only that, but there is no income tax in Florida. Not to mention the endorsement deals you get for being on such a team. Save me the "players are taking less money to win" bullshit.
Jun 12, 2014 9:04am
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Jun 12, 2014 12:12 PM
wildcats20;1625333 wrote:Kobe didn't take 30 mil first of all.

Secondly, there is no way in hell Melo is coming off the bench.

Thirdly, this will happen.
Didn't he make 30 million last year?
Jun 12, 2014 12:12pm
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Jun 12, 2014 12:13 PM
$30.5 according to Forbes' latest list.
Jun 12, 2014 12:13pm
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Jun 12, 2014 12:13 PM
friendfromlowry;1625355 wrote:The NBA's all time great teams have never been built like this, though. Typically, they're built through the draft and free agency/trades. Not a bunch of star players getting together and deciding where to join forces then trying to recruit more. Who even gives a fuck if they sacrifice a little bit of money at this point. They've already accumulated tens of millions of dollars, if not more.
Miami was built through free agency.
Jun 12, 2014 12:13pm
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Jun 12, 2014 12:15 PM
like_that;1625357 wrote:LOL. People always seem to forget Lebron was part of a sign and trade thus getting a max deal. Not only that, but there is no income tax in Florida. Not to mention the endorsement deals you get for being on such a team. Save me the "players are taking less money to win" bullshit.
True, I'm sure in the end they ended up getting all the money they want, it's more or less just props to Pat Riley for making it work and building a solid team around the key players with limited cash flexibility.
Jun 12, 2014 12:15pm
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Jun 12, 2014 12:26 PM
Automatik;1625410 wrote:$30.5 according to Forbes' latest list.
Scheduled to make 24 mil next year and 25 the year after.
Jun 12, 2014 12:26pm
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Jun 12, 2014 12:33 PM
Yeah, and remember when he slammed his supporting cast? LOL
Jun 12, 2014 12:33pm
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Jun 12, 2014 1:00 PM
Some of Miami's role players are going to have to play well for them to win, Lebron is shooting 60% from the field and 70% from the 3 in this series, have a feeling he may have an off night shooting the jumper, he's due.
Jun 12, 2014 1:00pm
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Jun 12, 2014 1:01 PM
Keep Chalmers on the bench.
Jun 12, 2014 1:01pm
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Jun 12, 2014 1:06 PM
robj55;1625411 wrote:Miami was built through free agency.
Not nearly to the extent that NBA's previously great teams were. You know that. Way to dodge the debate.
Jun 12, 2014 1:06pm
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Jun 12, 2014 1:07 PM
Were they not free agents?
Jun 12, 2014 1:07pm
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Jun 12, 2014 1:07 PM
Were they not free agents?

It's a new era, and the game has changed. I don't see why people still can't accept that.
Jun 12, 2014 1:07pm
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Jun 12, 2014 1:31 PM
I don't think I'll ever accept the notion of a bunch of star players who've seemed to have peaked, so they go out and recruit another star player. The East is, has, and will continue to be a pile of shit with them being penciled into the ECF and probably the finals every year.
Jun 12, 2014 1:31pm
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Jun 12, 2014 1:33 PM
All of the great dynasties were full of star players.

What about the LA's trade rape to get Gasol? Different method of acquiring a "star player" but the outcome was the same. Rings.
Jun 12, 2014 1:33pm
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Jun 12, 2014 1:46 PM
friendfromlowry;1625425 wrote:Not nearly to the extent that NBA's previously great teams were. You know that. Way to dodge the debate.
Yeah I know, don't feel like debating it though because it always end up everyone against me lol
Jun 12, 2014 1:46pm
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Jun 12, 2014 1:47 PM
Automatik;1625437 wrote:All of the great dynasties were full of star players.

What about the LA's trade rape to get Gasol? Different method of acquiring a "star player" but the outcome was the same. Rings.
Yeah that was a joke, people act like the Celtics and Lakers in the 80's and the Bulls in the 90's weren't loaded.
Jun 12, 2014 1:47pm
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Jun 12, 2014 1:55 PM
I'm not arguing that all of the great dynasties were full of star players. But they did through drafting, player development, and the occasional trade/free agent acquisition. The Gasol trade you cited is the exception and what the casual fan was outraged over before "The Decision." Like you said, the game is changing, and IMO for the worst. I'm sure you could bring up statistics with ratings that prove it's still just as watchable, but Idk how it's good when most of the eastern playoffs were pointless.

You could make the point that if Melo goes to the Heat, the east gets worse. The semi-competitive Knicks would turn into shit, and a team like the Bulls who really could use a major free agent to stay competitive would lose out. Plus, if you're a free agent out west, why would you come to the east knowing you'd have to play the Heat in the ECF?
Jun 12, 2014 1:55pm
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Jun 12, 2014 2:32 PM
I'm actually calling BS on the whole idea of Melo to the Heat.

I don't see why he would want that, and the same for the Miami organization. I'd like to see him to go to Chicago, maybe the Clips. To be honest, I don't even give a fuck, I don't like him as a player.
Jun 12, 2014 2:32pm