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May 27, 2014 4:25 PM
KB0938;1620008 wrote:LOL I give up, even when your own logic is used against you, you disagree with it. You're right Mahimi is quality depth because he has a ring
Good response, I'd probably have something similar when facts outweigh my logic. Don't even know why I'm arguing about something that really isn't important anyway.
May 27, 2014 4:25pm
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May 27, 2014 4:30 PM
Azubuike24;1620006 wrote:I should've been more specific. 50 PG/SG/SF. Obviously most PF's and C's aren't going to play a role similar to ET. I'd say he's a borderline top 50 player, but then again, when ranking a player's value don't we have to weigh some of that on what the hell else they do besides "get their own?" He's in a perfect position on a team who is desperate for bench scoring and creating offense, yet hasn't really seen the floor. They are on the biggest stage against the B2B defending champs...and he's nowhere to be found. That's telling, and a big reason I wouldn't consider him that good.
Yep he sucks because he didn't gel with that team. Something going on behind the scenes with that team, might be a while before it comes out but definitely something there. You know just like I know that the NBA is as much about opportunity as it is anything else, everyone in that league is a stud and can play. Hell there was a game in April with the Pacers where Turner started for George and put up 23, 7 and 9 on 50% shooting, you can't tell me the kid isn't good enough to play for this team or any other team in the league.
May 27, 2014 4:30pm
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May 27, 2014 4:38 PM
I apologize if I insulted anyone, shouldn't get worked up over some dumb argument.
May 27, 2014 4:38pm
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May 27, 2014 5:08 PM
This thread sucks
May 27, 2014 5:08pm
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May 27, 2014 5:28 PM
5 pages on the impact of Ian Mahinmi. LOL
May 27, 2014 5:28pm
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May 27, 2014 5:38 PM
Automatik;1620027 wrote:5 pages on the impact of Ian Mahinmi. LOL
The OC never fails to disappoint.
May 27, 2014 5:38pm
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May 27, 2014 5:43 PM
Automatik;1620027 wrote:5 pages on rob defending the Pacers bench as good because Miami is playing them
FIFY.
May 27, 2014 5:43pm
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May 27, 2014 6:07 PM
Automatik;1620027 wrote:5 pages on the impact of Ian Mahinmi. LOL
Involving an argument that makes no sense at all. Dude averaged a bit under 9 minutes a game the year he got a ring with Dallas (and, therefore, apparently became a made man). He averaged 16 a game during the regular season this year and is averaging 10 a game in this series, which is the sort of thing you expect to see happen to the average bench player when the games actually matter (kind of like how, in college basketball, when you go from non-conference games against nobodies to conference games against more potent opposition, those guys further down on the bench like Della Valle and Loving on this year's OSU team tend to get fewer minutes on a game-by-game basis). Say what you want about Vogel as a coach (and considering how Miami's done a good job making HT adjustments that he couldn't react to, at least something can definitely be said), but this guy and his PT has N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with it.

It's about enough to make me think the spirit of SQ "MVP JOEL ANTHONY!!!!" ME? has entered Rob with how another role player big man has suddenly gained this much importance to OC NBA talk.
May 27, 2014 6:07pm
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May 27, 2014 6:18 PM
This thread brought the lulz.
May 27, 2014 6:18pm
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May 27, 2014 7:08 PM
robj55;1619916 wrote:Paul George is a joke for those post game comments last night. What a loser mentality, making excuses. Shows poor leadership, no wonder they can't beat Miami and won't ever win anything.
Automatik;1619921 wrote:Yeah, he's not doing himself any favors. I'm starting to doubt my previous comments about PG being a "star on the rise."
glad you all are starting to catch on.
May 27, 2014 7:08pm
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May 27, 2014 7:13 PM
also, rob, ET blows.
May 27, 2014 7:13pm
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May 27, 2014 7:40 PM
Evan Turner is good but he has attitude problems and has since Atleast Ohio State. If you read the Club Tril blog or book you read about ET. Basically he is a good guy but has trust issues. I know they said his freshmen year he didn't trust the coaching staff or teammates. He feels like everyone is always out to get him. Once he was on the team awhile he warmed up to everyone and enjoyed the coaches and teammates. I have to figure that's why it took him some time to adjust in Philly and why he is struggling with the Pacers. His distrust of new situations throws everyone off at first including himself until he gets comfortable. I know he threw a punch at Mark Titus at OSU over foul shots in practice and he supposedly got into with Stephenson during practice in Indy.
May 27, 2014 7:40pm
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May 27, 2014 8:20 PM
sportchampps;1620058 wrote:Evan Turner is good but he has attitude problems and has since Atleast Ohio State. If you read the Club Tril blog or book you read about ET. Basically he is a good guy but has trust issues. I know they said his freshmen year he didn't trust the coaching staff or teammates. He feels like everyone is always out to get him. Once he was on the team awhile he warmed up to everyone and enjoyed the coaches and teammates. I have to figure that's why it took him some time to adjust in Philly and why he is struggling with the Pacers. His distrust of new situations throws everyone off at first including himself until he gets comfortable. I know he threw a punch at Mark Titus at OSU over foul shots in practice and he supposedly got into with Stephenson during practice in Indy.
In other words, he is as weird as his voice.
May 27, 2014 8:20pm
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May 27, 2014 9:41 PM
Tim Duncan got that ol slow mo game
May 27, 2014 9:41pm
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May 27, 2014 10:21 PM
westbrook= best pg in the game. hands down.
May 27, 2014 10:21pm
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May 27, 2014 10:51 PM
Pick6;1620088 wrote:westbrook= best pg in the game. hands down.
Good yes.

Best in the game? nah, hes not even the best PG in this game
May 27, 2014 10:51pm
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May 27, 2014 11:09 PM
KB0938;1620099 wrote:Good yes.

Best in the game? nah, hes not even the best PG in this game
lol. please.
May 27, 2014 11:09pm
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May 27, 2014 11:14 PM
It all depends on what you value in a PG.
May 27, 2014 11:14pm
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May 27, 2014 11:20 PM
If you think hes better than TP, I guess I can understand that. If you think hes better than CP3, I have no idea why you think that. In flashes like tonight he has the tools to be the best PG in the game, but he is WILDLY inconsistent and more times than not has horrible shooting games and turns it over quite a bit

And arent you the one downgrading Paul George due to his consistency....
May 27, 2014 11:20pm
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May 27, 2014 11:20 PM
HighRoller74;1620116 wrote:It all depends on what you value in a PG.
Winning and leadership. Lets discuss when Westbrook does either.
May 27, 2014 11:20pm
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May 27, 2014 11:30 PM
KB0938;1620121 wrote:If you think hes better than TP, I guess I can understand that. If you think hes better than CP3, I have no idea why you think that. In flashes like tonight he has the tools to be the best PG in the game, but he is WILDLY inconsistent and more times than not has horrible shooting games and turns it over quite a bit

And arent you the one downgrading Paul George due to his consistency....
how many triple doubles or 40 pt games has PG had this playoffs? Westbrook is a superstar and PG isn't. Also, outside of an out of the world game 1 by CP3, westbrook pretty much dominated them in their series.
Azubuike24;1620122 wrote:Winning and leadership. Lets discuss when Westbrook does either.
He does both. More of a leader than Durant and more winning than whatever other PG you want to claim is better.
May 27, 2014 11:30pm
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May 27, 2014 11:36 PM
Pick6;1620126 wrote:how many triple doubles or 40 pt games has PG had this playoffs? Westbrook is a superstar and PG isn't.

He does both. More of a leader than Durant and more winning than whatever other PG you want to claim is better.
PG has a 39 point game and quite a few games where he stacks the stat sheet as well but the Paul George comment was really beside the point.

Just because Westbrook had 1 good game, albeit a really really damn good game, doesnt make him the best PG in the NBA. And I dont dislike Westbrook at all, just dont find him to be the best PG in the NBA
May 27, 2014 11:36pm
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May 27, 2014 11:37 PM
Pick6;1620126 wrote: He does both. More of a leader than Durant and more winning than whatever other PG you want to claim is better.
He has the edge on neither of those compared to Tony Parker.

And may have more wins than Cp3, but hes not even in the same ballpark as far as leading a team
May 27, 2014 11:37pm
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May 27, 2014 11:38 PM
He's played his entire career next to KD, and thus, has the same overall results. Hard to really distinguish them. Right now, they are going down Stockton and Malone territory.
May 27, 2014 11:38pm
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May 27, 2014 11:39 PM
KB0938;1620137 wrote:PG has a 39 point game and quite a few games where he stacks the stat sheet as well but the Paul George comment was really beside the point.

Just because Westbrook had 1 good game, albeit a really really damn good game, doesnt make him the best PG in the NBA.
He's been doing it the majority of the playoffs. He has 3 triple doubles so far this post season. Who else even has 1 in the post season?
May 27, 2014 11:39pm