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cats gone wild

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Dec 29, 2009 12:34 AM
Does he deserve all the hype he gets? Years past.....probably, this year......NO! Yeah, he's got nice moves but he's been in a slump and fumbles WAY too much (6 this year). The Vikes can thank him for handing the game over to the Bears.

End rant/
I feel better now.
Dec 29, 2009 12:34am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:38 AM
cats gone wild wrote: Does he deserve all the hype he gets? Years past.....probably, this year......NO! Yeah, he's got nice moves but he's been in a slump and fumbles WAY too much. The Vikes can thank him for handing the game over to the Bears.

End rant/
I feel better now.
He does fumble a little too much, but the Vikings can also thank him for helping get them back in the game. He had a nice game (fumble aside). The man is not over-hyped at all.
Dec 29, 2009 12:38am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:39 AM
You're retarded..if you're as big a Vikings fan as you say you are, you'd realize that he has not put up as good as numbers because a) his QB doesn't suck this year and b) his coach has clearly favored Favre, especially in the red zone, so he isn't getting the same amount of carries as previous years.

He's still the best player in the National Football League, the only thing changed from now and last year is the gap between him and Chris Johnson is smaller, and that's only because of how much better CJ has gotten, now how worse AP has gotten.
Dec 29, 2009 12:39am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:41 AM
But, do you think he's the Peterson of the past few seasons, or lesser? Or have teams found out how to stop him. I guess I just dont get it, when now the Vikes have a passing game, so teams cant focus all on stopping AP.
Dec 29, 2009 12:41am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:41 AM
Can't over-hype the best RB in the game. He had a lot to do with the way they came back. I would take him on the Browns any day of the week.
Dec 29, 2009 12:41am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:42 AM
cats gone wild wrote: But, do you think he's the Peterson of the past few seasons, or lesser? Or have teams found out how to stop him. I guess I just dont get it, when now the Vikes have a passing game, so teams cant focus all on stopping AP.
He/you already answered your question. They are throwing it more. Hence Peterson gets less touches. I agree with S&L he is arguably the best player in the league
Dec 29, 2009 12:42am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:42 AM
cats gone wild wrote: But, do you think he's the Peterson of the past few seasons, or lesser? Or have teams found out how to stop him. I guess I just dont get it, when now the Vikes have a passing game, so teams cant focus all on stopping AP.
What don't you understand? He's still as good, his numbers are just inflated becuase of Brett Favre and Childress' obsession with him in the redzone.
Dec 29, 2009 12:42am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:43 AM
His rushing yard average per carry has dropped each year while the fumbles have went up each year. He is getting more catches this year though.

Season Team Rushing Receiving Fumbles
....................................G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
2009 Minnesota Vikings 14 13 281 1,235 4.4 64T 15 39 392 10.1 63 0 6 5
2008 Minnesota Vikings 16 15 363 1,760 4.8 67T 10 21 125 6.0 16 0 9 4
2007 Minnesota Vikings 14 9 238 1,341 5.6 73T 12 19 268 14.1 60T 1 4 3
TOTAL 882 4,336 4.9 73 37 79 785 9.9 63 1 19 12
Dec 29, 2009 12:43am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:46 AM
cats gone wild wrote: His rushing yard average per carry has dropped each year while the fumbles have went up each year.

Season Team Rushing Receiving Fumbles
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
2009 Minnesota Vikings 14 13 281 1,235 4.4 64T 15 39 392 10.1 63 0 6 5
2008 Minnesota Vikings 16 15 363 1,760 4.8 67T 10 21 125 6.0 16 0 9 4
2007 Minnesota Vikings 14 9 238 1,341 5.6 73T 12 19 268 14.1 60T 1 4 3
TOTAL 882 4,336 4.9 73 37 79 785 9.9 63 1 19 12
My goodness he is only averaging 4.4 yds per rush. What a terrible RB haha :rolleyes:
Dec 29, 2009 12:46am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:54 AM
No way he's the best overall player in the league. I'll give him best rb but not best player.
Dec 29, 2009 12:54am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:56 AM
2008-1238 yards... 3.9 ypc...8 TDs...1 fumble lost
2009-754 yards... 3.4 ypc..., 4 TDs...5 fumble lost

That's Matt Forte...THOSE are stats that would make you believe he's "lost it" over a year time span. Not Petersons.
Dec 29, 2009 12:56am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:57 AM
Rotinaj wrote: No way he's the best overall player in the league. I'll give him best rb but not best player.
If there was one player you would take in the NFL, you wouldn't start with Adrian Peterson?
Dec 29, 2009 12:57am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:58 AM
Peterson is the best RB in the NFL. Whether that's overhyped or not, who knows. However, when you are the best, you can't really be overrated. Really only Chris Johnson can argue right now, or Maurice Jones-Drew, but neither have done it as long as A.P.
Dec 29, 2009 12:58am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:58 AM
SportsAndLady wrote:
Rotinaj wrote: No way he's the best overall player in the league. I'll give him best rb but not best player.
If there was one player you would take in the NFL, you wouldn't start with Adrian Peterson?
I would
Dec 29, 2009 12:58am
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Dec 29, 2009 12:59 AM
Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.
Dec 29, 2009 12:59am
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Dec 29, 2009 1:00 AM
Rotinaj wrote: Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.
You might have a case with Manning. Brady...eh not so much for me. Give me Peterson over him. Its not 2007 anymore
Dec 29, 2009 1:00am
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Dec 29, 2009 1:02 AM
He is like T.O was with his drops when he was the best receiver in the league in the sense that you have to live with the fact he is going to fumble the ball. He has done it his whole career, and it is not going to stop.

However, this was a really bad fumble, and he has had a couple like this. Certainly not his fault alone they lost the game, but you just can't fumble inside the opposing teams 40 in overtime when the ability to control your own destiny for a playoff bye was on the line.

They fought so hard to come back, that I think had they pulled it out there season goes a totally different direction than now as they are most likely not going to get the bye, they have no momentum as a team, and their coach is a retard who doesn't understand that Favre should be allowed to call whatever plays he wants at the line if he sees something. I think they are pretty much sunk right now as their special teams are awful and the defense looks just as bad.

Childress needs to realize his way of running the offense is just too stagnant and hasn't been working. They were at their best this season when they were spreading people out and Favre was doing what he wanted at the line of scrimmage disregarding playcalls. Favre got Childress his contract extension and was a large part of the reason they started 10-1, to try and reign him in as he has been doing is dumb. The second half tonight when they opened it up and free wheeled alot more should tell him all he needs to know about who's way works better.

Spread the offense out, let Favre audible out of playcalls if he wants, and at least try and go down swinging because the handcuff approach is a first class ticket home from the opening round of the playoffs.
Dec 29, 2009 1:02am
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Dec 29, 2009 1:03 AM
Might have a case with manning??? What makes AP the absolute best player in the league??
Dec 29, 2009 1:03am
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Dec 29, 2009 1:04 AM
SportsAndLady wrote: You're retarded..if you're as big a Vikings fan as you say you are, you'd realize that he has not put up as good as numbers because a) his QB doesn't suck this year and b) his coach has clearly favored Favre, especially in the red zone, so he isn't getting the same amount of carries as previous years.

He's still the best player in the National Football League, the only thing changed from now and last year is the gap between him and Chris Johnson is smaller, and that's only because of how much better CJ has gotten, now how worse AP has gotten.
I'm a big Vikings fan and I can tell you, Adrian Peterson is great but the fumbles and a tendency to drop passes keep him from being the best player in the NFL.

The fact that he doesn't know when to protect the ball instead of fighting for extra yardage is amateur bullshit. Chester Taylor is very valuable abecause of Peterson's inconsistencies and he may not be in MN next year.
Dec 29, 2009 1:04am
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Dec 29, 2009 1:04 AM
Rotinaj wrote: What makes AP the absolute best player in the league??
Plays like this
Dec 29, 2009 1:04am
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Dec 29, 2009 1:07 AM
Manning has 15 picks this year...Brady has 12.

Yet AP is criticized for a few fumbles?
Dec 29, 2009 1:07am
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Dec 29, 2009 1:13 AM
I'm sorry but the best player in the NFL doesn't get held to under 70 yards in 5 games and only be 7th in rushing yards.
Dec 29, 2009 1:13am
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Dec 29, 2009 1:20 AM
Maybe you missed the whole part about Childress "holding him back"

Look at Favre's attempts in the redzone compared to Peterson's...I don't feel like looking up the numbers but I'm sure they'll back up my theory.
Dec 29, 2009 1:20am
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Dec 29, 2009 1:26 AM
I'd take Chris Johnson over AP honestly..

Of course Johnson hasn't don it as long, this is only his 2nd year in the league. Both years he's beasted though.
Dec 29, 2009 1:26am
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Dec 29, 2009 1:29 AM
Lol I don't feel like lookin them up either. I'm not saying your wrong for thinking he's the best I'm just sayin I'd take manning or Brady ahead of him.
Dec 29, 2009 1:29am