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Feb 11, 2013 8:24 AM
Anyone listening to this?

Sheesh, this guy is fucking delusional. How can you sit there and genuinely say that your dad, the head coach of Penn State, did enough to prevent child rape?!

I can't even listen to this guy and not hold back at screaming at the TV.

Joe Paterno "has a lot of integrity and is a moral man" yet knew about this since 2001 and never said anything to police? They asked Joe about that and he said he went to his supervisor which took a lot of integrity and shows that he had good character..LOL

His response to the Freeh Report is "I wish Freeh would read OUR report and get the facts." Yeah, read our biased, subjective report; forget about your 3rd party independent report.

Mike Golic is getting visibly upset too, it's great.
Feb 11, 2013 8:24am
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Feb 11, 2013 8:46 AM
The family literally has nothing to do but try to protect the old mans legacy, what little remains of it. I don't know that I would expect much else from their camp.
Feb 11, 2013 8:46am
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Feb 11, 2013 9:20 AM
I am one to side with not rushing to judgment. I'm not claiming that Paterno didn't do what the Free Report claims. I'm not claiming that he did either. But I do agree the public opinion was decided before all the facts about the situation came out.

Right now I don't have time to read either let alone both reports in their entirety, so I won't be making a decision on the "guilt" of Paterno any time soon.

For those that think that the Paterno report is completely self-serving and biased, why are you so eager to believe the Freeh report? The report was commissioned by the Board of Trustees who have an interest in pushing the blame onto a few individuals instead of having it reflect on their complete lack of oversight or adopting and maintaining a process that works in dealing with situations like these (something Trustees should be doing).

Also, the NCAA has an interest in adopting the Freeh report. It was essentially a nice little bow on a horrid subject that was in line with the public opinion and it allowed the NCAA to sweep this whole issue aside rather quickly instead of a long drawn out and thorough investigation.

I can't form an opinion on either report as I haven't read either in their entirety. But I also don't think either side is completely free from an agenda they are pursuing.
Feb 11, 2013 9:20am
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Feb 11, 2013 9:35 AM
I only listened for about 5 minutes, but the part that I thought was interesting (if true) is that Jerry Sandusky had an office on campus, but it was not in the football complex. It was in a different campus building and was the result of an arrangement between Sandusky and the provost Rod Erickson, who was promoted to president when they forced Graham Spaniel to retire.
Feb 11, 2013 9:35am
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Feb 11, 2013 10:16 AM
I hate to say it but I agree with F4F. The whole "investigation" was a joke, but I don't know if I completely absolve Joe Paterno of blame. It's a hard thing to believe that he just didn't know about the problem.
Feb 11, 2013 10:16am
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Feb 11, 2013 10:26 AM
JoePa knew more than what what his son thinks he knew, but less than what I think the Freeh report and what alot of people who completely villified him accuse him of knowing.
Feb 11, 2013 10:26am
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Feb 11, 2013 10:37 AM
Joe Paterno was the most powerful man at that university and the community (lol at the clowns who point to an org chart to try to deny that obvious reality). If Joe Paterno didn't know something, it's because he actively chose not to know, which IMO doesn't get him off the hook even a little.
Feb 11, 2013 10:37am
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Feb 11, 2013 2:08 PM
I have no doubt that Joe Paterno was a man of integrity and morals, but he made a terrible mistake and allowed himself to think that he did what he was supposed to....or that the situation was 'handled'. Sandusky was a close and long time family friend, and people of Joe Pa's age group tend to look at these perversions as treatable mental ilness rather than outright criminal activity...Cognitive dissonance. I really don't think he deliberately tried to cover this up as much as he made an error in judgement in thinking the situation was adequately handled.
Feb 11, 2013 2:08pm
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Feb 11, 2013 2:30 PM
HitsRus;1386899 wrote:people of Joe Pa's age group tend to look at these perversions as treatable mental ilness rather than outright criminal activity
What? I don't believe that for a second and even if it's true that's a terrible excuse.
Feb 11, 2013 2:30pm
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Feb 11, 2013 2:57 PM
HitsRus;1386899 wrote:and people of Joe Pa's age group tend to look at these perversions as treatable mental ilness rather than outright criminal activity.
Hey Belly and Con_Alma, is this true?
Feb 11, 2013 2:57pm
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Feb 11, 2013 3:12 PM
vball10set;1386942 wrote:Hey Belly and Con_Alma, is this true?
Belly probably agrees. But his idea of treatment for this sort of thing (as well as shoplifting, jaywalking, talking back and eating meals at his house too quickly) would be a bullet to the head, delivered by him under his interpretation of a concealed-carry law.
Feb 11, 2013 3:12pm
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Feb 11, 2013 4:04 PM
I expected the Paterno family to come out with something like this. I can understand it too. If it were my father who I revere, I would do everything I could to try to absolve him from guilt. But it doesn't change the facts. Freeh's report doesn't exactly make any large leaps. The conclusions are obvious to anyone who wants to read it. It wasn't intended to stand up in a court of law. It was intended to tell the story. The university commissioned it true, but the report made the school look more culpiple than before. So I have a hard time calling the Freeh report "their report". It mad them look like a band of fools.

The whole thing is very sad and the scars will not pass for years.
Feb 11, 2013 4:04pm
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Feb 11, 2013 4:07 PM
More importantly, Mike and Mike is terrible.
Feb 11, 2013 4:07pm
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Feb 11, 2013 7:45 PM
dlazz;1386995 wrote:More importantly, Mike and Mike is terrible.
Used to not be. Ever since they became big time it's gone terribly downhill, way too big on the NFL anymore. Colin is much more entertaining cause he refuses to go completely mainstream, and SVP & Russillo are pretty cool as well
Feb 11, 2013 7:45pm
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Feb 11, 2013 8:33 PM
Classyposter58;1387087 wrote:Colin is much more entertaining cause he refuses to go completely mainstream
I'd listen to Mike and Mike all day over Cowherd. He's fucking horrible.
Feb 11, 2013 8:33pm
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Feb 11, 2013 11:41 PM
What? I don't believe that for a second and even if it's true that's a terrible excuse.
Why is that so hard to believe...you still have old folk that look at homosexuality as 'sin' and that those 'afflicted' can be 'made straight' thru counseling or religion/god. Remember how old Joe Pa was.....and talk to your grandparents or great grandparents. You might be suprised.

...and it's not an excuse. Just an explanation.
Feb 11, 2013 11:41pm
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Feb 12, 2013 7:31 AM
Classyposter58;1387087 wrote:Used to not be. Ever since they became big time it's gone terribly downhill...
I agree. With all their other interests they're rarely on together anymore, and the commercial breaks are torturingly long. I've recently starting listening to Sirius/XM 91 CSN w/Bill King in the a.m.-lot's of good college stuff being discussed (with infrequent short commercial breaks).
Feb 12, 2013 7:31am
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Feb 12, 2013 9:15 AM
HitsRus;1387279 wrote:Why is that so hard to believe...you still have old folk that look at homosexuality as 'sin' and that those 'afflicted' can be 'made straight' thru counseling or religion/god. Remember how old Joe Pa was.....and talk to your grandparents or great grandparents. You might be suprised.

...and it's not an excuse. Just an explanation.
The treatable part is what I am questioning. I've never heard an "old person" say that a child molestor needs treatment.
Feb 12, 2013 9:15am
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Feb 12, 2013 2:38 PM
HitsRus;1387637 wrote:Here is an article from 2002...about the same time as the Sandusky incident.

http://articles.philly.com/2002-03-03/news/25340821_1_pedophiles-psychologist-curable
Ok... But that still doesn't prove people from Joe Pa's age group think about it as a treatable disease.
Feb 12, 2013 2:38pm