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Azubuike24

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Dec 8, 2013 10:05 PM
SportsAndLady;1550703 wrote:I'm not saying coaches agree with me. Just saying it's a piece of shit move by that punter.
We agree there. Ron Rivera wanted the guy ejected, even as he was injured. I agree with him actually, considering some of the other ejections we've seen in football.
Dec 8, 2013 10:05pm
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mhs95_06

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Dec 8, 2013 10:06 PM
I can't comprehend why Chris and Al can't fathom why NO chooses 2nd and 3, 2yds further down field than the penalty of 5 yds and a 1st down. Definitely correct to take the 7 yd gain.
Dec 8, 2013 10:06pm
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Dec 8, 2013 10:07 PM
mhs95_06;1550706 wrote:I can't comprehend why Chris and Al can't fathom why NO chooses 2nd and 3, 2yds further down field than the penalty of 5 yds and a 1st down. Definitely correct to take the 7 yd gain.
Mayock/Nessler > Collingsworth/Michaels.
Dec 8, 2013 10:07pm
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Dec 8, 2013 10:10 PM
mhs95_06;1550706 wrote:I can't comprehend why Chris and Al can't fathom why NO chooses 2nd and 3, 2yds further down field than the penalty of 5 yds and a 1st down. Definitely correct to take the 7 yd gain.
Disagree...you take first down over 2nd down 100% of the time. Especially when it's 1st and 5.
Dec 8, 2013 10:10pm
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Dec 8, 2013 10:19 PM
SportsAndLady;1550711 wrote:Disagree...you take first down over 2nd down 100% of the time. Especially when it's 1st and 5.
It's def holding, making it 1st and 10. It means to get another first down you have to avg 3.3 yds per play instead of the 1.5 yds you need to convert 2nd and 3.
Dec 8, 2013 10:19pm
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Dec 8, 2013 10:20 PM
I bet 1st and 5 is picked up more than 2nd and 3

One it's 3 plays to gain 5 yards.....that's slightly easier than 2 plays to gain 3....unless the average NFL play is 2 yards or under.
Dec 8, 2013 10:20pm
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Dec 8, 2013 10:21 PM
mhs95_06;1550717 wrote:It's def holding, making it 1st and 10. It means to get another first down you have to avg 3.3 yds per play instead of the 1.5 yds you need to convert 2nd and 3.
Scratch what I said....thought it was 1st and 5
Dec 8, 2013 10:21pm
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Dec 8, 2013 10:30 PM
mhs95_06;1550717 wrote:It's def holding, making it 1st and 10. It means to get another first down you have to avg 3.3 yds per play instead of the 1.5 yds you need to convert 2nd and 3.
Are you sure? Collinsworth and Michaels were saying it's 1st and 5 or 2nd and 3. They could be wrong, they're pretty stupid.
Dec 8, 2013 10:30pm
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Dec 8, 2013 10:36 PM
Def. Holding is an automatic 1st down, and a 5 yd penalty. So I assume if would be 1st and 10, 5 yards closer or 2nd and 3, 7 yards closer.

I still think I would take the 1st down, but its not a mind-boggling move to decline the penalty.
Dec 8, 2013 10:36pm
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Dec 8, 2013 10:52 PM
Anyone not like Drew Brees?

Too short.

He may throw for 70,000 yards before it's said and done.
Dec 8, 2013 10:52pm
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Dec 8, 2013 10:58 PM
Ironman92;1550731 wrote:Anyone not like Drew Brees?

Too short.

He may throw for 70,000 yards before it's said and done.
Like him, definitely. Hope to see him break a few career records.
Dec 8, 2013 10:58pm
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Dec 9, 2013 1:01 PM
anyone see where AP said Baltimore fans were throwing "ice balls" at him on the sideline?
Dec 9, 2013 1:01pm
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Dec 9, 2013 10:35 PM
Did anyone see the TD catch by Jeffery for the Bears just before halftime? When he was near the back of the EZ and the ball was in the air, he kept driving toward the goal post, even though the ball was coming down in the corner of the EZ. I'm wondering if he knew it was coming behind him and was astute enough to keep driving to get space to have room to make the catch one he reversed direction. Or did he misjudge the flight until it was almost too late, and it worked out perfectly, or did the flight of the ball in the wind and cold take a weird dart to the corner? If it was Jeffery's astuteness, he is on his way to greatness, as his other skills are very good. Catching that ball strongly above his head reminded me of Anquan Boldin, and all those great clutch, key catches he made last season in the Ravens' run thru the playoffs.
Dec 9, 2013 10:35pm
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Dec 9, 2013 10:37 PM
McCown is really ripping his throws tonight in the frigid weather!
Dec 9, 2013 10:37pm
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Dec 9, 2013 10:42 PM
The Cowboys D is making McCown look like fucking Peyton Manning. Not to mention they all seem to be made of porcelain. Season will probably come down to the last game like always.
Dec 9, 2013 10:42pm
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Dec 9, 2013 10:46 PM
Pick6;1551201 wrote:The Cowboys D is making McCown look like fucking Peyton Manning. Not to mention they all seem to be made of porcelain. Season will probably come down to the last game like always.
McCown, in his time this year has excellent numbers.
Dec 9, 2013 10:46pm
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Dec 9, 2013 10:48 PM
mhs95_06;1551198 wrote:Did anyone see the TD catch by Jeffery for the Bears just before halftime? When he was near the back of the EZ and the ball was in the air, he kept driving toward the goal post, even though the ball was coming down in the corner of the EZ. I'm wondering if he knew it was coming behind him and was astute enough to keep driving to get space to have room to make the catch one he reversed direction. Or did he misjudge the flight until it was almost too late, and it worked out perfectly, or did the flight of the ball in the wind and cold take a weird dart to the corner? If it was Jeffery's astuteness, he is on his way to greatness, as his other skills are very good. Catching that ball strongly above his head reminded me of Anquan Boldin, and all those great clutch, key catches he made last season in the Ravens' run thru the playoffs.
Good call on the hands like Boldin.....as for the great catch, I don't know what you said, but it was a great catch and he looks like he's going to be an incredible receiver in the league.

It won't be too long until many teams have 6'3 freak DB's
Dec 9, 2013 10:48pm
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Dec 10, 2013 9:19 AM
http://www.nfl.com/player/joshmccown/2505076/profile

Pretty damn good stats in his 7 starts. Better numbers than Cutler. I think the soft rules have allowed once shitty QBs look like HOF QBs. McCown is a FA after this season. I am sure some team is going to throw money at him, even though they shouldn't (34 years old).
Dec 10, 2013 9:19am
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Dec 10, 2013 9:41 AM
like_that;1551312 wrote:http://www.nfl.com/player/joshmccown/2505076/profile

Pretty damn good stats in his 7 starts. Better numbers than Cutler. I think the soft rules have allowed once shitty QBs look like HOF QBs. McCown is a FA after this season. I am sure some team is going to throw money at him, even though they shouldn't (34 years old).
The rules have some to do with it but it also must be pretty nice to have Forte, Marshall, and Jeffery.
Dec 10, 2013 9:41am
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Dec 10, 2013 9:52 AM
Rotinaj;1551328 wrote:The rules have some to do with it but it also must be pretty nice to have Forte, Marshall, and Jeffery.

True, but there have been some pretty shitty QBs this season who have had serviceable to pretty damn good games, when they have no business having those type of games. Also, Cutler had those same players.
Dec 10, 2013 9:52am
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Dec 10, 2013 10:33 AM
So anyone think SHanahan should sit RGIII the last few games?
Possible to try and showcase Cousins to possibly trade him?
Legit to keep RG safe or to see if COusins should be the starter and trade RGIII?
Dec 10, 2013 10:33am
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Dec 10, 2013 11:38 AM
thavoice;1551373 wrote:So anyone think SHanahan should sit RGIII the last few games?
Possible to try and showcase Cousins to possibly trade him?
Legit to keep RG safe or to see if COusins should be the starter and trade RGIII?
He should sit him, and honestly, he should have sat out the whole season.
Dec 10, 2013 11:38am
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Dec 10, 2013 11:43 AM
se-alum;1551424 wrote:He should sit him, and honestly, he should have sat out the whole season.
It's easy to say that now that they are 3-10. However, the NFL is a win now league. Every season, teams can go from worst record to playoffs. Much of the season results have to do with luck with injuries and the schedule.

I DO agree however, that they should have at least given Cousins a chance until theyknew RGIII was completely healthy, or like a month ago they should have considered it.

The issue here isn't playing RGIII, it's more about they haven't really done much to showcase Cousins, who may have some value.
Dec 10, 2013 11:43am
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Dec 10, 2013 12:07 PM
Hard to have a guy not play in the preseason and then expect him to be all world when it starts. Practice just isnt enough, especially with the new CBA where they dont hit or go live nearly as often in years past.
Dec 10, 2013 12:07pm
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Dec 10, 2013 12:30 PM
thavoice;1551459 wrote:Hard to have a guy not play in the preseason and then expect him to be all world when it starts. Practice just isnt enough, especially with the new CBA where they dont hit or go live nearly as often in years past.
This and most of his off season workouts were geared toward rehabbing his knee and getting it ready for live action. His focus was his knee, when it would have been much more beneficial for him to focus on improving his game and studying film. I can see him having a bounce back year, but I honestly won't be surprised if he never has a season as good as his rookie season, UNLESS he learns how to be a pocket passer.
Dec 10, 2013 12:30pm