Exactly.lhslep134;1552029 wrote:Look at the meddling NFL owners: Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, Al Davis once he got too old for the gig, those guys have run their organizations into the ground.
Yea, the return of Hoyer and Lewis could be pretty big for this team next year. Any updates on Hoyer's recovery?like_that;1552021 wrote:Agreed. Only complaint so far is giving up on Rainey so quickly, but I have said it numerous times, RBs are dime a dozen and I think they find a productive back this offseason. Let's not forget Dion Lewis will return. This offense was missing a speedy back that catches balls out of the backfield.
thavoice;1552057 wrote:Hoyer was a nice addition to this offense before his injury, but I think that the browns would be making a bad move by putting the future of this offense on his shoulders if there is still a highly rated QB to be drafted. I guess they could wait until the next draft since a couple coming out then may be good, but how long can the team afford to not have a QB?
The Browns most definitely need to draft a QB this year who can compete w/ Hoyer for the starting job, but Hoyer is a good enough insurance plan to not have to reach for a QB. I would prefer that pick to be the 2nd first rounder or the 1st 2nd rounder, unless we are high enough to get Bridgewater(or Bortles if he comes out).thavoice;1552057 wrote:Hoyer was a nice addition to this offense before his injury, but I think that the browns would be making a bad move by putting the future of this offense on his shoulders if there is still a highly rated QB to be drafted. I guess they could wait until the next draft since a couple coming out then may be good, but how long can the team afford to not have a QB?
I would say second round only if one of the better QB's slip for whatever reason on draft day. They dont need to get a second teir guy, they need a top flight draft prospect. They just shouldnt draft a QB in the second round unless they believe he is going to be the franchise.se-alum;1552148 wrote:The Browns most definitely need to draft a QB this year who can compete w/ Hoyer for the starting job. I would prefer that pick to be the 2nd first rounder or the 1st 2nd rounder, unless we are high enough to get Bridgewater(or Bortles if he comes out).
I'm just not sure that top flight guy is out there, after Bridgewater. Bortles and Hundley may or may not declare. Then you have Manziel, Boyd, and Carr. After that, it's a crap shoot. I don't like Mettenberger or Hogan at all. You have Murray coming off an ACL. I would say this is a deep QB class, but no standouts after Teddy.thavoice;1552151 wrote:I would say second round only if one of the better QB's slip for whatever reason on draft day. They dont need to get a second teir guy, they need a top flight draft prospect. They just shouldnt draft a QB in the second round unless they believe he is going to be the franchise.
You have two picks in the first round...get a top flight QB with that pick. The browns should be done with fucking around with the QB position, and browns fans should be fed up with it as well.
Laley23;1552164 wrote:If I'm the Browns I target Bortles and Bridgewater. The get whatever position you feel needs the most improvement with the second #1
like_that;1552006 wrote:Also said is a moron. Yeah the eagles are going to trade Foles after having a 17-1 ratio and leading the eagles surge to the playoffs /sarcasm.
Commander of Awesome;1552264 wrote:What you want to bet said?
Is that a slam or a compliment? I simply see no way that isn't a compliment.said_aouita;1552266 wrote:I'll change my avatar to like_that's runner up medal.
yup.Ironman92;1552268 wrote:Is that a slam or a compliment? I simply see no way that isn't a compliment.
I don't agree or disagree with any of that.....just didn't know if you were taking that if you lost as a real thing you don't want as an avatar or if you were just making light of his second place finish.said_aouita;1552270 wrote:yup.
I just don't think he's the franchise qb....that is all. I suspect if Kelly can get a 1st rounder (+ whatever) he would do it.
Maybe I'm wrong but it does not make me a moron....jeez.
SportsAndLady;1552280 wrote:Saids never watched foles play
He's been unbelievable....but I don't know how much of it is Chip's new system....plus McCoy has been MVPish as well. But you could argue McCoy has benefitted from Foles and the system as well.lhslep134;1552282 wrote:I'm fairly certain I was called a homer on here before that 2012 draft because I said I thought Foles was going to be awesome.
A good QB needs a good system to thrive, and vice versa. I don't think it's "either Foles or Kelly", it's both. Great match for the Eagles.Ironman92;1552287 wrote:He's been unbelievable....but I don't know how much of it is Chip's new system.
said_aouita;1552259 wrote:I was just posting the question you fucking asshole.
e/
*I bet he will not be the starter next year is the reason of the original question.
Make sure Said's avatar is of an old man in a shit hole farm town fapping to HS boy wrestlers, while also bowing down to a HS coach.Commander of Awesome;1552264 wrote:What you want to bet said?
lhslep134;1098647 wrote:This will probably come off as bias but anyone who has actually watched him play compared to Tannehill and Osweiler will probably agree.
I think after Luck and RGIII the next best quarterback is arguably Nick Foles. Threw for 4300 yards completing 69% of his passes (and he threw a LOT, we were terrible and couldn't run at all). I really think he could drop to the beginning of the 2nd round. I really wouldn't mind using picks 4/22 (or trading down for more picks) to improve the team and then take Foles.
I was hoping for the dumb percentile stuff.lhslep134;1552353 wrote:That was entertaining. While looking on the 2012 Browns thread for what I said about Foles going into the draft, I came across the incredibly dumb footwedge and percentile stuff. That was a good laugh.
Anyways, here's what I said
Also, kudos to a lot of other posters on here who thought Foles was going to be good too. We had a pretty good analysis of the 2012 draft class (thus far).
