Hb31187;1180305 wrote:IF, huge if. But if, they play OKC in the finals, I bet you he spends very little time checking KD

Hb31187;1180304 wrote:He also played on him like 1/8th the time. Hes on first team D because of reputation and that its a popularity contest. He usually guards the other teams weaker perrimeter players

robj55;1180317 wrote:you just ignored all the facts I gave you. Who he guards is dictated by the match up and by the coaching staff. You can't have the best player in the world getting in foul trouble, what type of coaching would that be? Like I said he is the most dynamic and versatile defender in the world, well above average on ball and off ball.

Crimson streak;1180320 wrote:Like last years finals against Jason terry? Lebron had 7 inches on terry and terry lit his ass up. Is lebron a good off ball defender? Yes. On ball? No

robj55;1180317 wrote:you just ignored all the facts I gave you. Who he guards is dictated by the match up and by the coaching staff. You can't have the best player in the world getting in foul trouble, what type of coaching would that be? Like I said he is the most dynamic and versatile defender in the world, well above average on ball and off ball.

Hb31187;1180326 wrote:What facts? that he shot bad with LBJ on him? yes yes he did...but he didnt spend much time on him at all in the series. It was spot duty. But if you're gonna be the leading vote getter for all defensive first team youd figure youd spend more time guarding star players and less time guarding lesser wing players and just floating around helping. Theres no doubt hes the most versatile, but he usually doesnt put those skills to work guarding star players

I know they dont want him in foul trouble, and thats a smart move. But if you only play the star players part time, you shouldnt be 1st team all D IMO. It should go to defensive specialists

robj55;1180328 wrote:He guarded him for atleast 50% of the time, the only other player to check him was Battier and he didn't even play 2o minutes a game. So yes in fact he did spend a great deal of time guarding him. I'm not Erick Spoelstra so I can't comment on who he guards or match ups but I know you have to keep you star out of foul trouble, simple coaching.

Hb31187;1180327 wrote:And what Center has lbj EVER checked in a game? Not a PF in the 5 position, but a true center

Hb31187;1180329 wrote:Hes been in foul trouble like under 10 times in his career and never fouled out of a game. Idc who you are, you cant be playign that good of defense if you've never even been in foul trouble in your career. That or they just dont call fouls on you.

Hes a good defender, but not worthy of getting the most votes, even over the DPOY....thats just a joke

robj55;1180331 wrote:Then why do all the analysts and ex players say that he is one of if not the best defender in the game, I am reporting what I see with my own eyes but there are a ton of people who agree.

Hb31187;1180333 wrote:Lol a true center would abuse LBJ in the post, sure he could rebound because hes a freak athlete. But a true center would have his way with LBJ in the post. Bynum,Dwight, Bogut, ect. Just because hes lined up against a center doesnt mean he effectively guarded one. Again, I dont exactly have ESPN stock room full of tape, but i doubt its happened that often at all

robj55;1180332 wrote:As far as the foul trouble thing I don't want to get into that, we all discussed that last week.

robj55;1180336 wrote:Well I guess I'm a liar then, and I'm sure he could effectively guard them. Is he going to shut them down? No way, but he would hold his own. You're discrediting him matching up against a center when he has effectively guarded them however.

Hb31187;1180334 wrote:I never hear the analysts like on TNT post game really talk about his defense at all? During the game Steve Kerr has had a hard on for the Heat's defense when the pacers have done the same thing but i honestly havent heard many talk about his D...aside from his highlight chase down blocks. Thats not to say they dont or havent

Hb31187;1180337 wrote:We talked about the whole flagrant foul and protecting the stars thing. But he more than any other star in the league doesnt even get fouls called on him period llol. I think games 1-3 he played like 115 minutes with 2 fouls or something outrageous like that haha

robj55;1180339 wrote:All the analysts talk about it, how disruptive he is on that end. He wouldn't get first place votes and consideration for DPOY if he weren't an elite defender. Most of those guys who vote are reputable sources who follow the game much more closely than you or I.

Hb31187;1180341 wrote:I dont doubt that, I juts would love to hear their reasoning for naming someone DPOY then turning around and not even voting him first team. Seems like they're mildly retarded or idk really

robj55;1180343 wrote:Who did they have ahead of Chandler? I think he is a bit overrated as a post defender(still good), but his help side D is what wins it for him. I think Dwight is a better post defender but that's just my opinion.

Hb31187;1180344 wrote:Thats who they had as the C position was Dwight.