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May 21, 2012 10:56 PM
So, you gonna complain when a star gets the foul next time? Its the NBA. Its ALLLL about reputation.

IE, Kobe should have 3 fouls in Q1? No, you laughed about the bad call.
May 21, 2012 10:56pm
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May 21, 2012 10:57 PM
Skyhook79;1178287 wrote:That is is a joke. You follow the rules not someone's reputation. The refs took over the game that is the real joke.

Go to bed.

And you guys all know Kobe gets ridiculous amounts of calls.. BASED on his reputation. So quit bitching
May 21, 2012 10:57pm
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May 21, 2012 10:57 PM
Scott Foster is one the worst refs in the league and the other white guy looks like he is at his first NBA game. But we shouldn't be surprised the whole NBA seasin has been big mistake after another.
May 21, 2012 10:57pm
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May 21, 2012 10:57 PM
Can we go back to the NBA of the 90s? That's a solid foul, not a flagrant. Man, Barkley, Rodman, or the bad boys could never play today.
May 21, 2012 10:57pm
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May 21, 2012 10:57 PM
Midstate01;1178286 wrote:I agree. But Kobe gets calls based on his reputation too.. So you can't complain and want it both ways.

+1
May 21, 2012 10:57pm
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May 21, 2012 10:57 PM
karen lotz;1178290 wrote:What rules were followed on what should have been Kobe's third and why didn't you complain about it?

EXACTLY!!! The refs knew that'd be his third and handed it to Hill instead.
May 21, 2012 10:57pm
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May 21, 2012 10:58 PM
Skyhook79;1178287 wrote:That is is a joke. You follow the rules not someone's reputation. The refs took over the game that is the real joke.
The reason why Hill picked up the foul that sure as hell looked as if it was Kobe's third foul, was because of Kobe's reputation right? Reputation is the why they don't put the stars in early foul trouble.
May 21, 2012 10:58pm
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May 21, 2012 10:58 PM
The left arm shiver is why it's flagrant. But still don't personally think it was
May 21, 2012 10:58pm
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May 21, 2012 10:58 PM
Laley23;1178291 wrote:So, you gonna complain when a star gets the foul next time? Its the NBA. Its ALLLL about reputation.

IE, Kobe should have 3 fouls in Q1? No, you laughed about the bad call.
I said lol, 100% a foul on Kobe.

There isn't one person who thinks that's a flagrant foul. It was a fucking joke.
May 21, 2012 10:58pm
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May 21, 2012 10:58 PM
Laley23;1178291 wrote:So, you gonna complain when a star gets the foul next time? Its the NBA. Its ALLLL about reputation.

IE, Kobe should have 3 fouls in Q1? No, you laughed about the bad call.
They can call it a foul if they want to because of his reputation but taking it to the next level and making it a Flagrant is just ridiculous.
May 21, 2012 10:58pm
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May 21, 2012 10:59 PM
Anyway...

It's a 3 point game. I didn't expect that at all.
May 21, 2012 10:59pm
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May 21, 2012 10:59 PM
And artest looked like he gave him a push with his left hand that's why he got the flagrant foul
May 21, 2012 10:59pm
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May 21, 2012 11:00 PM
wildcats20;1178300 wrote:I said lol, 100% a foul on Kobe.

There isn't one person who thinks that's a flagrant foul. It was a ****ing joke.

Yea you said it. But you also know he wasn't given that call because he's Kobe! Same reason attest gets that call, because he's been a fucking idiot.
May 21, 2012 11:00pm
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May 21, 2012 11:00 PM
wildcats20;1178300 wrote:I said lol, 100% a foul on Kobe.

There isn't one person who thinks that's a flagrant foul. It was a fucking joke.
Right. I say that isnt a flagrant. But, like the 3rd foul...lol @ the NBA. But it is what it is. You are pissed it was called flagrant, you should be pissed Kobe didnt get a 3rd as well. That or say, reputation kept us in the game, it can hurt us later as well.
May 21, 2012 11:00pm
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May 21, 2012 11:01 PM
Derek fisher... He's been LA's 3rd best player tonight. Playing some fantastic d... Not.
May 21, 2012 11:01pm
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May 21, 2012 11:02 PM
Skyhook79;1178301 wrote:They can call it a foul if they want to because of his reputation but taking it to the next level and making it a Flagrant is just ridiculous.
Does anyone disagree? lol

Point is, its the NBA. Its built on stars reputation, so getting pissed about this very contradictory.
May 21, 2012 11:02pm
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May 21, 2012 11:02 PM
Midstate01;1178304 wrote:Yea you said it. But you also know he wasn't given that call because he's Kobe! Same reason attest gets that call, because he's been a fucking idiot.
OK. But you can also look at that Kobe foul and say the ref saw Hill commit the foul. Which OBVIOUSLY he didn't, but it is a possibility.

A flagrant foul and a normal foul are not the same things. There was not one ounce of excessive contact on that foul. Not one. Which is the definition of a flagrant foul. It was a TERRIBLE call and it resulted in 2 T's that should have NEVER been called.
May 21, 2012 11:02pm
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May 21, 2012 11:04 PM
wildcats20;1178308 wrote:OK. But you can also look at that Kobe foul and say the ref saw Hill commit the foul. Which OBVIOUSLY he didn't, but it is a possibility.

A flagrant foul and a normal foul are not the same things. There was not one ounce of excessive contact on that foul. Not one. Which is the definition of a flagrant foul. It was a TERRIBLE call and it resulted in 2 T's that should have NEVER been called.

Then you could look at the attest play and say the ref saw his left arm push him after contact.
May 21, 2012 11:04pm
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May 21, 2012 11:04 PM
Laley23;1178305 wrote:Right. I say that isnt a flagrant. But, like the 3rd foul...lol @ the NBA. But it is what it is. You are pissed it was called flagrant, you should be pissed Kobe didnt get a 3rd as well. That or say, reputation kept us in the game, it can hurt us later as well.
Kobe would have stayed in the game with 3 fouls, giving someone a flagrant gives the other team a chance at 5 pts in one trip. You better be darn sure as an official when you give a flagrant.
May 21, 2012 11:04pm
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May 21, 2012 11:04 PM
The Laker fanboi rage is strong in this thread
May 21, 2012 11:04pm
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May 21, 2012 11:04 PM
wildcats20;1178308 wrote:OK. But you can also look at that Kobe foul and say the ref saw Hill commit the foul. Which OBVIOUSLY he didn't, but it is a possibility.

A flagrant foul and a normal foul are not the same things. There was not one ounce of excessive contact on that foul. Not one. Which is the definition of a flagrant foul. It was a TERRIBLE call and it resulted in 2 T's that should have NEVER been called.

You can say the forearm shiver to the back while he was in the air was flagrant.
May 21, 2012 11:04pm
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May 21, 2012 11:06 PM
Midstate01;1178311 wrote:Then you could look at the attest play and say the ref saw his left arm push him after contact.
That happens all the time on layups in the NBA, it wasn't flagrant by the leagues own definition.
May 21, 2012 11:06pm
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May 21, 2012 11:06 PM
lol at the "forearm shiver"


It could also have been called a jump ball.
May 21, 2012 11:06pm
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May 21, 2012 11:06 PM
It's a pointless argument. We are arguing about nba refs. Who we all know are told to protect stars. So nobody complains when their star gets a call, but goes crazy when they don't. Because they should, based on reputation. Well if that's the way it works then guys like artest, Steven Jackson and others will have the same things happen to them based on rep.
May 21, 2012 11:06pm
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May 21, 2012 11:07 PM
I guaran-fucking-tee you that if any other player who is considered a "thug" made that play, it wouldn't have been a flagrant.
May 21, 2012 11:07pm