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Sep 18, 2012 4:16 PM
Sonofanump;1274433 wrote:After week 2 of the lockout and I see that things are going well for the NFL. No problem putting D3 guys out there with the NFL players. No problems with the time it takes to play a game. No problems administering the game. I have not even mention judgement calls yet. I guess they can take anyone from a lower level and stick them in. Enjoy the season guys.
My sarcasm meter just went off the charts with that post.

These replacement refs are just bad. They seemed way worse in week 2 than in week 1. It's so hard to even watch a game right now with all the stuff they fuck up and the time it takes to do anything when they do make a call.
Sep 18, 2012 4:16pm
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Sep 18, 2012 4:19 PM
Iliketurtles;1274445 wrote:My sarcasm meter just went off the charts with that post.

These replacement refs are just bad. They seemed way worse in week 2 than in week 1. It's so hard to even watch a game right now with all the stuff they fuck up and the time it takes to do anything when they do make a call.
Yet the cost of officiating is listed under misc expense on the accounting sheets for the NFL, and after two weeks this is what everyone is talking about. Good job Goodell, you got them where you want them.
Sep 18, 2012 4:19pm
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Sep 18, 2012 4:25 PM
Sonofanump;1274448 wrote:Yet the cost of officiating is listed under misc expense on the accounting sheets for the NFL, and after two weeks this is what everyone is talking about. Good job Goodell, you got them where you want them.
I especially liked the blog I saw on Yahoo sports where apparently (according to McCoy of Philly) one of the refs said something along the lines of "I need you for my fantasy team!". Which makes sense, since they had to hold one guy out of another game (Saints?) because he was an obvious fan of the team.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/replacement-ref-reportedly-told-lesean-mccoy-fantasy-team-143558559--nfl.html
Sep 18, 2012 4:25pm
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Sep 18, 2012 5:05 PM
I won't watch another down of an NFL game this season until the regular refs are back. The whole ordeal to end the 1st quarter last night was ridiculous.
Sep 18, 2012 5:05pm
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Sep 18, 2012 5:18 PM
justincredible;1274484 wrote:I won't watch another down of an NFL game this season until the regular refs are back. The whole ordeal to end the 1st quarter last night was ridiculous.

What happened?
Sep 18, 2012 5:18pm
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Sep 18, 2012 6:18 PM
justincredible;1274484 wrote:I won't watch another down of an NFL game this season until the regular refs are back. The whole ordeal to end the 1st quarter last night was ridiculous.

I texted Roger.

He said burn in hell.
Sep 18, 2012 6:18pm
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Sep 18, 2012 6:18 PM
Didn't catch it on TV, but read there was a loose ball that turned into a 6-7 minute scrum that the scabs couldn't find a way to control.
Sep 18, 2012 6:18pm
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Sep 18, 2012 6:59 PM
The current replacement officials are like the 1000th best in the world. Goodell knows what he is doing.
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Sep 18, 2012 6:59pm
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Sep 18, 2012 8:16 PM
Heretic;1274513 wrote:Didn't catch it on TV, but read there was a loose ball that turned into a 6-7 minute scrum that the scabs couldn't find a way to control.
On top of that they called a def holding penalty at the end of the first half against ATL. It is supposed to be a 5 yard penalty and automatic 1st down. Somehow it turned into an 8 or 9 yard penalty (don't remember which for sure, but definitely wasn't 10).

Another defensive holding penalty in the 2nd half was misadministered as well. That time it was against DEN when ATL was running a no huddle and inside DEN's 10 yard line, the 10 minute discussion to get the yardage correct could have completely ruined ATL's momentum on that drive.

Last night's MNF game was by far the worst game I've seen on TV, but I heard the PHIvBAL game was bad too.
Sep 18, 2012 8:16pm
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Sep 18, 2012 8:36 PM
jmog;1274549 wrote:On top of that they called a def holding penalty at the end of the first half against ATL. It is supposed to be a 5 yard penalty and automatic 1st down. Somehow it turned into an 8 or 9 yard penalty (don't remember which for sure, but definitely wasn't 10).

Another defensive holding penalty in the 2nd half was misadministered as well. That time it was against DEN when ATL was running a no huddle and inside DEN's 10 yard line, the 10 minute discussion to get the yardage correct could have completely ruined ATL's momentum on that drive.

Last night's MNF game was by far the worst game I've seen on TV, but I heard the PHIvBAL game was bad too.
Yes and no. There were a couple of missed pass interference calls on Philly. I can't remember too much else though. I can't hold that against the replacement refs though because I've seen it happen with the regular refs but I will agree with whoever said that the 2nd week was much worse than the first. The one ref said the penalty was on "red" last night during the game and I heard a couple guys at the gym going on about how crappy that is. I agree there are problems with these refs but to me that isn't one of the problems.
Sep 18, 2012 8:36pm
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Sep 18, 2012 8:43 PM
The ref and crew from the DEN/ATL game worked the PHI/CLE game last week, and didn't do bad at all. But, part of their problem is their inconsistency.
Sep 18, 2012 8:43pm
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Sep 18, 2012 8:46 PM
Heretic;1274138 wrote:Where he'll suddenly become healthy and productive, catching 60 passes with 8 TDs over the rest of the year. Because it's New England and that's how those fuckers roll.
He has averaged 72 receptions per year over the past 3 years.... Hmm, I never would've guessed
Sep 18, 2012 8:46pm
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Sep 18, 2012 9:11 PM
Heretic;1274513 wrote:Didn't catch it on TV, but read there was a loose ball that turned into a 6-7 minute scrum that the scabs couldn't find a way to control.

Yeah, god forbid the players just get the hell off the field.
Sep 18, 2012 9:11pm
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Sep 18, 2012 10:33 PM
ricola;1273251 wrote:Thoughts re: TB/Giants take-a-knee mishap? (i.e. Eli taking a knee to end the game, but TB's coach Schiano having his D-line bowl into O-line and and knocking Eli down..). Personally, think Schiano's a heck of a coach, and will do great in TB (or anywhere---sure would have looked good in Cleveland!), but agree with Coughlin---not done in NFL.
Not done in NFL? Is there a 0% of a fumbled snap? Coughlin should worry about his offensive line not doing their job. There's a reason why they line up a guy 15 yards back. Just in case. Bitching about the effort is a puss move. Unwritten rules are not rules.
Sep 18, 2012 10:33pm
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Sep 19, 2012 4:01 AM
^more of a chance of a blown out knee than a fumbled snap in that situation. Granted it's legal, granted it's not a rule, but you had 58 minutes and 56 seconds to play defense, you gave up 500+ yds passing..if you want to dive into the line on a kneel down fine. They'll unfortunately find what goes around comes around.
Sep 19, 2012 4:01am
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Sep 19, 2012 4:31 AM
ricola;1274744 wrote:on another note..is Cutler the biggest jerk in the NFL?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay-cutler-chicago-bears-qb-will-never-be-the-superstar-he-thinks-he-is-091812

other candidates?
Geez some of these writers are horrible. They try taking some strong view point and blog this crap.

The writer Greg Couch is the biggest jerk.

Cutler had every right to be pissed at his O-line. They sucked against GB.
Granted Cutler bumping into an o-line guy is over the top but screaming at him isn't.
( my 0.02)

"I probably shouldn’t have bumped him,’’ Cutler said. “I’ll go with that. As far as me yelling at him and trying to get him going in the game, I don’t regret that. Shouldn’t have bumped him, though. I’ll stick with that."
Sep 19, 2012 4:31am
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Sep 19, 2012 5:04 AM
said_aouita;1274747 wrote:Geez some of these writers are horrible. They try taking some strong view point and blog this crap.

The writer Greg Couch is the biggest jerk.

Cutler had every right to be pissed at his O-line. They sucked against GB.
Granted Cutler bumping into an o-line guy is over the top but screaming at him isn't.
( my 0.02)

"I probably shouldn’t have bumped him,’’ Cutler said. “I’ll go with that. As far as me yelling at him and trying to get him going in the game, I don’t regret that. Shouldn’t have bumped him, though. I’ll stick with that."
Disagree. This has been ongoing with Cutler. Especially with J'Marcus Webb.

I believe Webb is a third year player and when talking about his O-Line in the offseason, Cutler said "IF J'Marcus pans out." This is your backside protection and you're throwing him under the bus BEFORE the season starts? Cutler obviously has issues with Webb and if I'm Webb, I'm throwing a "lookout" block for Cutler, letting Cutler get blasted, and then when I give him a hand to help him up I tell him "next time maybe you shut your fucking piehole?"
Sep 19, 2012 5:04am
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Sep 19, 2012 8:35 AM
ricola;1274743 wrote:^more of a chance of a blown out knee than a fumbled snap in that situation. Granted it's legal, granted it's not a rule, but you had 58 minutes and 56 seconds to play defense, you gave up 500+ yds passing..if you want to dive into the line on a kneel down fine. They'll unfortunately find what goes around comes around.
I wouldn't have minded if the TB DLinemen just rushed hard on the play, my problem is they dove at knees. That's a cheap shot.
Sep 19, 2012 8:35am
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Sep 19, 2012 8:46 AM
ricola;1274743 wrote:^more of a chance of a blown out knee than a fumbled snap in that situation. Granted it's legal, granted it's not a rule, but you had 58 minutes and 56 seconds to play defense, you gave up 500+ yds passing..if you want to dive into the line on a kneel down fine. They'll unfortunately find what goes around comes around.
There's a chance of a blown knee on every play...the fact the O-lineman were not ready (considering the lineman from Tampa were looking like they were ready to bull rush) means they deserve any injury they get in that situation. You have to be ready for EVERY play. Just becuase they were in "victory formation" doesn't mean the defense has to give up.
Sep 19, 2012 8:46am
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Sep 19, 2012 8:49 AM
SportsAndLady;1274818 wrote:There's a chance of a blown knee on every play...the fact the O-lineman were not ready (considering the lineman from Tampa were looking like they were ready to bull rush) means they deserve any injury they get in that situation. You have to be ready for EVERY play. Just becuase they were in "victory formation" doesn't mean the defense has to give up.
well i think eventually against them to prevent an injury next time teams will consider just running a running play up the middle instead of kneeling. imo this is the exact outcome the coach is trying to produce because then it increases the chance of a turnover.
Sep 19, 2012 8:49am
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Sep 19, 2012 8:51 AM
Gblock;1274822 wrote:well i think eventually against them to prevent an injury next time teams will consider just running a running play up the middle instead of kneeling. imo this is the exact outcome the coach is trying to produce because then it increases the chance of a turnover.
Not really sure what you said here
Sep 19, 2012 8:51am
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Sep 19, 2012 8:54 AM
i think if they keep trying to bull rush the kneel down teams will stop kneeling and just run another play. I think this outcome is what tampa is trying to achieve
Sep 19, 2012 8:54am
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Sep 19, 2012 12:19 PM
jmog;1274549 wrote:On top of that they called a def holding penalty at the end of the first half against ATL. It is supposed to be a 5 yard penalty and automatic 1st down. Somehow it turned into an 8 or 9 yard penalty (don't remember which for sure, but definitely wasn't 10).

Another defensive holding penalty in the 2nd half was misadministered as well. That time it was against DEN when ATL was running a no huddle and inside DEN's 10 yard line, the 10 minute discussion to get the yardage correct could have completely ruined ATL's momentum on that drive.

Last night's MNF game was by far the worst game I've seen on TV, but I heard the PHIvBAL game was bad too.
Yeah, I read about that one too. Think it was marked as an 11-yard penalty.

They had some errors during the Pitt-Jets game, too. I was only home to watch the last quarter-and-a-half, but during that time, I saw a HORRIBLE PI call on Pittsburgh and then a little bit later, they reviewed a possible fumble by a Steelers RB. No fumble, but they completely missed how he should have been ruled down in the backfield.
Sep 19, 2012 12:19pm
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Sep 19, 2012 12:21 PM
ricola;1274743 wrote:^more of a chance of a blown out knee than a fumbled snap in that situation. Granted it's legal, granted it's not a rule, but you had 58 minutes and 56 seconds to play defense, you gave up 500+ yds passing..if you want to dive into the line on a kneel down fine. They'll unfortunately find what goes around comes around.
58 minutes and 56 seconds is not a full football game.
jmog;1274807 wrote:I wouldn't have minded if the TB DLinemen just rushed hard on the play, my problem is they dove at knees. That's a cheap shot.
Wouldn't be if the OL were ready like they should have been. Goal line defense include a lot of shooting low.
SportsAndLady;1274818 wrote:There's a chance of a blown knee on every play...the fact the O-lineman were not ready (considering the lineman from Tampa were looking like they were ready to bull rush) means they deserve any injury they get in that situation. You have to be ready for EVERY play. Just becuase they were in "victory formation" doesn't mean the defense has to give up.
This.
Sep 19, 2012 12:21pm