Classyposter58;1069121 wrote:Yeah I agree. He's not as far along as Buford was

LJ;1069125 wrote:Buford and Sully stepping up in the 2nd half is what sealed this game for OSU

Laley23;1069120 wrote:
Mustafaa could be even considered in the top 2. He has been balling, but doesnt have the fundamentals and is dumb as a bag of rocks. But at least he shows up and plays hard for big games. Nigel settles and Loving settles and plays poor too often.

I honestly think he is the 4th best player in Toledo at this moment.

1. Nigel Hayes (JR) (when he wants to be) is unstoppable
2. Mark Donnal (JR). Beilin got a STEAL with this kid. Next Pittsnoggle if he is allowed to play the outside
3. Loving (JR)
4. Mookie Mustafaa (SR)

Although he really wasn't much of a factor as Craft kept him pretty under control for the most part. But he played a nice game.

Laley23;1068517 wrote:How come OSU fans, more than any other it seems (maybe not as much as Purdue with Painter), never criticize anything Matta does.

SportsAndLady;1069097 wrote:Here you go vball lol


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In a down season in terms of college point guards, I might just take Aaron Craft over all of them - due to defense, toughness, intangibles.

Laley23;1069120 wrote:JR. And nowhere near as good his Rivals ranking. He has a lot of improving to do, to be effective at OSU.

I honestly think he is the 4th best player in Toledo at this moment.

1. Nigel Hayes (JR) (when he wants to be) is unstoppable
2. Mark Donnal (JR). Beilin got a STEAL with this kid. Next Pittsnoggle if he is allowed to play the outside
3. Loving (JR)
4. Mookie Mustafaa (SR)

Mustafaa could be even considered in the top 2. He has been balling, but doesnt have the fundamentals and is dumb as a bag of rocks. But at least he shows up and plays hard for big games. Nigel settles and Loving settles and plays poor too often.

Laley23;1069131 wrote:See my edit. Kid has a ton of skill and upside. But he settles for 3s too often, and he isnt a great shooter. Not close to Buford. He also is a tremendous slasher, but to be able to finish he has too get a lot stronger. HSers are knocking him down and frustrating him. He doesnt really have post play, which doesnt matter. His ball handling needs to improve, and defense REALLY needs to improve.

sportswizuhrd;1069152 wrote:says this guy about Loving...



I agree about Loving and Nigel. Not sure why so many of the recruiting services have Loving ahead of Nigel but Nigel brings more to the game than Loving, IMO. I would take Hayes ahead of Loving. I really like Donnal's game.

As far as your other players, is Cookie Monster(wtf?) ahead of Vito Brown(I don't know his class, I believe UM is looking at him too) or Getty's? I think so but haven't seen much of Brown and when I did he seemed disinterested. Also, Getty's is just big(reminds me of Storm Stanley).

Prescott;1069161 wrote:Burke was a huge factor. UM scored 49 points. With 13 points and 5 assists he accounted for 1/2 UM's points. I was impressed.

Craft was also impressive.He scored 7 points on 4 shots , had 4 assists, 2 steals, and only 2 turnovers.

Both PG's played winning basketball. Craft just had more help.

vball10set;1067622 wrote:I think Thomas is the X-factor in this game, both offensively and defensively. I hope he gets matched up with Novak, because I think his long reach will give him problems

vball10set;1069278 wrote:Novak 33min 0 points 4 rebounds

Thomas 35min 12 points 5 rebounds

yeah, Deshaun pretty much owned Novak today

SportsAndLady;1068460 wrote:I bet you Matta regrets not offering Burke now. You agree?

SportsAndLady;1068467 wrote:I mean even if you're going off point guards who don't look to score first, I'd still take Kendall Marshall over Aaron Craft.

I just don't understand the obsession w/ Aaron Craft. Good player, but I'd take quite a few players over him at the pg position.

chicago510;1069146 wrote:Lenzelle was the MVP again. 8 offensive rebounds. OSU killed Mich on the boards and got to the line and that was the difference.

Huge factor? How so?

Prescott;1069467 wrote:He was responsible for 1/2 of his team's points. That makes him huge in the loss.

Laley23;1068517 wrote:How come OSU fans, more than any other it seems (maybe not as much as Purdue with Painter), never criticize anything Matta does. Like he doesnt ever make mistakes? Either coaching, recruiting, whatever? Its always, "if it was good enough for him, its good enough for me." I dont get that. Why ever have an opinion if its just going to be because the coach did it.

Big Gain;1069474 wrote:VERY simple answer to a VERY simple question. Matta has FOUR Big Ten Championships in his 8 years at Ohio State. NO OTHER Big Ten coach has more than 2 since Matta has been in the Big Ten. Very difficult to put down the coach that is twice as successful as the other Big Ten head coaches.