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Dec 28, 2011 12:10 AM
Cole has been doing this since he first suited up at practice. Wade called him a more prepared option at pg than he was as a rookie. Nice start for Miami.
Dec 28, 2011 12:10am
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Dec 28, 2011 12:45 AM
Lakers playing some D tonight, impressive when its their 3rd game in 3 nights.
Dec 28, 2011 12:45am
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Dec 28, 2011 1:15 AM
sleeper;1028678 wrote:Kobe is a shell of himself. And he still can't close, see the Bulls game 2 days ago.
27.6 ppg
6.6 rpg
5.7 apg
2.0 spg

For a guy in his 16th year.

#sleeperlosesagain
Dec 28, 2011 1:15am
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Dec 28, 2011 1:15 AM
So what is the deal with Greg Oden? Is he supposed to play this season?
Dec 28, 2011 1:15am
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Dec 28, 2011 1:16 AM
The Jazz won't win 15 games this year. Wow, they are bad.
Dec 28, 2011 1:16am
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Dec 28, 2011 1:52 AM
wildcats20;1028703 wrote:The Jazz won't win 15 games this year. Wow, they are bad.
Thought the same thing as I watched this game. Milsap, Jefferson, Favors and Kanter should carry this team but their backcourt is really weak. I think they made a big mistake with the Williams trade. Harris is NOT a franchise PG and Favors plays the same position as two other high priced guys. Need to make some moves to make this team halfway decent.
Dec 28, 2011 1:52am
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Dec 28, 2011 9:50 AM
Skyhook79;1028701 wrote:27.6 ppg
6.6 rpg
5.7 apg
2.0 spg

For a guy in his 16th year.

#sleeperlosesagain
He had an opportunity to win the game with the ball in his hands, and per normal he missed the shot. Only time we ever see Kobe on SportsCenter is the 20% of the time he makes it, not the 80% that he misses.
Dec 28, 2011 9:50am
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Dec 28, 2011 9:52 AM
sportswizuhrd;1028707 wrote:Thought the same thing as I watched this game. Milsap, Jefferson, Favors and Kanter should carry this team but their backcourt is really weak. I think they made a big mistake with the Williams trade. Harris is NOT a franchise PG and Favors plays the same position as two other high priced guys. Need to make some moves to make this team halfway decent.
I still don't understand why they would take Kantar. They are loaded at the 4/5 position but have nothing else.
Dec 28, 2011 9:52am
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Dec 28, 2011 10:52 AM
sleeper;1028771 wrote:He had an opportunity to win the game with the ball in his hands, and per normal he missed the shot. Only time we ever see Kobe on SportsCenter is the 20% of the time he makes it, not the 80% that he misses.
No one has made more game winners since 2001 than Kobe Bryant. Kobe doesn't need a Norris Cole to step up in the 4th like your boy Lebron does.

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Dec 28, 2011 10:52am
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Dec 28, 2011 11:25 AM
Skyhook79;1028820 wrote:No one has made more game winners since 2001 than Kobe Bryant. Kobe doesn't need a Norris Cole to step up in the 4th like your boy Lebron does.

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No one has taken more game winners than Kobe either, even if your statistic(which can be spun anyway you want) is correct.
Dec 28, 2011 11:25am
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Dec 28, 2011 11:28 AM
Has anyone had 1/2 the attempts at game winners than Kobe?


Not sure how anyone can honestly try to take from any of Kobe's career. The guy was the best NBA player for multiple years, a top 3 NBA player for 10+ years and a top 5-7 player for 15 years. Earned all-star starter 13X, 5 NBA Championships and closing in on 30,000 points. Bashing anything on the court just makes you look ignorant. I don't even like him, but it's not difficult to appreciate how great he has been for a decade and a half.
Dec 28, 2011 11:28am
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Dec 28, 2011 11:41 AM
Ironman92;1028858 wrote:Has anyone had 1/2 the attempts at game winners than Kobe?


Not sure how anyone can honestly try to take from any of Kobe's career. The guy was the best NBA player for multiple years, a top 3 NBA player for 10+ years and a top 5-7 player for 15 years. Earned all-star starter 13X, 5 NBA Championships and closing in on 30,000 points. Bashing anything on the court just makes you look ignorant. I don't even like him, but it's not difficult to appreciate how great he has been for a decade and a half.
Agree










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Dec 28, 2011 11:41am
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Dec 28, 2011 12:35 PM
Ironman92;1028858 wrote:Has anyone had 1/2 the attempts at game winners than Kobe?


Not sure how anyone can honestly try to take from any of Kobe's career. The guy was the best NBA player for multiple years, a top 3 NBA player for 10+ years and a top 5-7 player for 15 years. Earned all-star starter 13X, 5 NBA Championships and closing in on 30,000 points. Bashing anything on the court just makes you look ignorant. I don't even like him, but it's not difficult to appreciate how great he has been for a decade and a half.
Great. None of that is relevant to the point that he's a shell of his former self. Thanks for playing.
Dec 28, 2011 12:35pm
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Dec 28, 2011 1:12 PM
26.7 ppg
6.7 rb
5.7 ast

35 min/game

Either we completely disagree on what "a shell of his former self" means or your argument sucks.

Let me know.
Dec 28, 2011 1:12pm
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Dec 28, 2011 1:55 PM
Ironman92;1028950 wrote:26.7 ppg
6.7 rb
5.7 ast

35 min/game

Either we completely disagree on what "a shell of his former self" means or your argument sucks.

Let me know.
He's played what, 3 games? He's also their only option.

Kobe Bryant is the greatest chucker in NBA history. He shoot a lot, and therefore he scores a lot. I'm not impressed.
Dec 28, 2011 1:55pm
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Dec 28, 2011 2:28 PM
You said he was a shell of his former self. What were you basing that on?

He's played 3 games in 3 nights and his numbers are right at what he does.

He is showing no signs of a guy that won't score 22+ ppg....not sure of your shell criteria. I can't even think of a player that is a shell....maybe Vince Carter.

Whatever the case, you are trying to knock a guy that has never been anything but great since age 20....can't say I understand. Maybe you can list all the players in NBA history that have been a top 5 player for 12+ years.
Dec 28, 2011 2:28pm
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Dec 28, 2011 3:19 PM
Ironman92;1029062 wrote:You said he was a shell of his former self. What were you basing that on?

He's played 3 games in 3 nights and his numbers are right at what he does.

He is showing no signs of a guy that won't score 22+ ppg....not sure of your shell criteria. I can't even think of a player that is a shell....maybe Vince Carter.

Whatever the case, you are trying to knock a guy that has never been anything but great since age 20....can't say I understand. Maybe you can list all the players in NBA history that have been a top 5 player for 12+ years.
Give any NBA player a prime Shaq and a prime Gasol, and full control over shooting the ball and we could have an entire league full of Kobe Bryant's. He's overrated.
Dec 28, 2011 3:19pm
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Dec 28, 2011 3:21 PM
This argument is ridiculous.
Dec 28, 2011 3:21pm
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Dec 28, 2011 3:32 PM
sleeper;1029117 wrote:Give any NBA player a prime Shaq and a prime Gasol, and full control over shooting the ball and we could have an entire league full of Kobe Bryant's. He's overrated.

Ridiculous generalization.

I'd love to go back to those times and replace Kobe with Desagna Diop
Dec 28, 2011 3:32pm
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Dec 28, 2011 3:35 PM
Ironman92;1029136 wrote:Ridiculous generalization.

I'd love to go back to those times and replace Kobe with Desagna Diop
Me too. We'd have less Laker fans that's for sure.
Dec 28, 2011 3:35pm
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Dec 28, 2011 5:03 PM
Agree, though don't have any problems with most Lakers fans.
Dec 28, 2011 5:03pm
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Dec 28, 2011 5:22 PM
I love arguments with Sleeper. Easily are the most entertaining for me.
Dec 28, 2011 5:22pm
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Dec 28, 2011 6:39 PM
Thunder/Grizzlies

Knicks/Warriors

Only games on tv tonight?
Dec 28, 2011 6:39pm
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Dec 28, 2011 6:40 PM
Cavaliers/Pistons also.
Dec 28, 2011 6:40pm
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Dec 28, 2011 6:41 PM
Westbrook goes 38,8,6 tonight

Kyrie goes for 16,4,3
Dec 28, 2011 6:41pm