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Oct 6, 2011 7:32 PM
trep14;924159 wrote:Speaking of Common Man and the Torg, apparently there was some twitter beef between them and Terrelle Pryor today. Does anyone know what was said?
They called him a rat saying that he told the NCAA about the jobs situation (which is B.S., OSU had been looking into it) Pryor responded basically telling them that they suck and to eff off. They went full retard
Oct 6, 2011 7:32pm
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Oct 6, 2011 8:23 PM
I think Twitter has lowered the IQ of this country about 50 points -- and we weren't exactly high to begin with.
Oct 6, 2011 8:23pm
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Oct 6, 2011 8:30 PM
Writerbuckeye;924224 wrote:I think Twitter has lowered the IQ of this country about 50 points -- and we weren't exactly high to begin with.
I think the profession of "journalist" has now been associated with that of a 6th grader -- and it wasn't much better to begin with.
Oct 6, 2011 8:30pm
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Oct 6, 2011 8:56 PM
-Society-;924230 wrote:I think the profession of "journalist" has now been associated with that of a 6th grader -- and it wasn't much better to begin with.
Lots of people out there who call themselves journalists who aren't -- and lots of journalists out there who think they're doing their jobs well, and are quite delusional. My former profession has gone to hell. I'm glad I got out when I did.
Oct 6, 2011 8:56pm
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Oct 6, 2011 9:06 PM
centralbucksfan;923767 wrote:OSU is, in fact, one of the top 5 jobs in the US. I don't think there is ANY question about this. When you look at the recruiting base, facilities, tradition, money within the program, national exposure etc, etc...they are easily top 5. Not even an arguement. Even the haters would agree with this.
Yes OSU is all that, but at some point, for some coaches, expectations play a role. OSU's expectations are as high as any place, and that could be a detriment to some.

Also, I don't know if the HS football is as good as it once was.
Oct 6, 2011 9:06pm
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Oct 6, 2011 10:24 PM
ksig489;923480 wrote:Nebraska has been ranked in the top 10 at several points the last 2 years.
The last poll is the only one that matters. Texas was in the top 10 for 4 weeks last year and went 5-7.
Oct 6, 2011 10:24pm
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Oct 7, 2011 1:45 AM
thedynasty1998;924262 wrote:Yes OSU is all that, but at some point, for some coaches, expectations play a role. OSU's expectations are as high as any place, and that could be a detriment to some.

Also, I don't know if the HS football is as good as it once was.
LOL, yeah ok. I mean Tressel's main recruiting ground was Ohio and he was only one of the most successful coaches in the country the last decade. But tell us more about your ABUNDANT football knowledge.
Oct 7, 2011 1:45am
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Oct 7, 2011 1:52 AM
Disrespecting the quality and depth of Ohio's high school football players is utter stupidity.

It's tiered like this, in my opinion:

Texas, California, Florida

Ohio, Georgia, Pennsylvania

Louisiana, New Jersey, Alabama, Illinois, Michigan
Oct 7, 2011 1:52am
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Oct 7, 2011 6:37 AM
dwccrew;924684 wrote:LOL, yeah ok. I mean Tressel's main recruiting ground was Ohio and he was only one of the most successful coaches in the country the last decade. But tell us more about your ABUNDANT football knowledge.
I'm not saying it isn't good talent. And it helps that OSU gets whoever they want from Ohio. But look at the talent in the SEC. And now look at the talent at OSU this year. I just think a lot of the elite talent is coming from the southeast and Texas.

Also, I'm surprised to see Michigan on the list. Never knew they produced that much talent.
Oct 7, 2011 6:37am
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Oct 7, 2011 9:32 AM
I get what is being said about the High School talent. When a state loses population at the rate Ohio is, you are going to see the pool of athletes drop. Ohio is still a top five state in football talent, but stating that talent isn't what it was 20 years ago..or even 10 years ago is closer to the truth than most are comfortable with.

For example, my son's freshman team this year could beat 60% of the D6 schools in Ohio. When they were 8th graders, they could have won the Tri Valley Conference South.
Oct 7, 2011 9:32am
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Oct 7, 2011 9:46 AM
georgemc80;924803 wrote:When they were 8th graders, they could have won the Tri Valley Conference South.
Are you from the TVC area?
Oct 7, 2011 9:46am
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Oct 7, 2011 10:07 AM
Tobias Fünke;924686 wrote:Disrespecting the quality and depth of Ohio's high school football players is utter stupidity.

It's tiered like this, in my opinion:

Texas, California, Florida

Ohio, Georgia, Pennsylvania

Louisiana, New Jersey, Alabama, Illinois, Michigan
Ohio should be in the top tier...Ohio teams consistently play with or beat the teams from FL, CA, and TX in the big games that are played now. PA isnt far behind.

Michigan HS football isnt bad at all. I hadnt noticed until a couple years ago, but they do pump out some big talent.
Oct 7, 2011 10:07am
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Oct 7, 2011 10:32 AM
Writerbuckeye;924256 wrote:Lots of people out there who call themselves journalists who aren't -- and lots of journalists out there who think they're doing their jobs well, and are quite delusional. My former profession has gone to hell. I'm glad I got out when I did.
Bobby Knight said it best "...most of us learn to write in 4th grade and then move along to accomplish things a little more noteworthy."
Oct 7, 2011 10:32am
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Oct 7, 2011 10:36 AM
Love it when idiots start using their son's Freshman football team to back up their stupidity (or verify it).
Oct 7, 2011 10:36am
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Oct 7, 2011 10:56 AM
georgemc80;924803 wrote:I get what is being said about the High School talent. When a state loses population at the rate Ohio is, you are going to see the pool of athletes drop. Ohio is still a top five state in football talent, but stating that talent isn't what it was 20 years ago..or even 10 years ago is closer to the truth than most are comfortable with.

For example, my son's freshman team this year could beat 60% of the D6 schools in Ohio. When they were 8th graders, they could have won the Tri Valley Conference South.
Ohio has never lost population in a census. Yes, growth is slower than the Sun Belt and Southeast, but it's not non-existent. Just because the football talent (or amount of people) isn't as prevalent in SE Ohio anymore doesn't mean the rest of the state is as bad off. You need to look no farther than the center of the state to see where the population has shifted.
Oct 7, 2011 10:56am
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Oct 7, 2011 11:06 AM
dtdtim;924903 wrote:Ohio has never lost population in a census. Yes, growth is slower than the Sun Belt and Southeast, but it's not non-existent. Just because the football talent (or amount of people) isn't as prevalent in SE Ohio anymore doesn't mean the rest of the state is as bad off. You need to look no farther than the center of the state to see where the population has shifted.
While this is true, the population of the state is aging more than some Southern states as younger folks leave to find jobs elsewhere and don't stay and raise families. It's why we've seen enrollments mostly drop in Ohio schools.

That said, the talent level is STILL among the elite states, even if perhaps not as many players are coming out of Ohio.

I recall hearing or reading some comments from college coaches (not OSU or Ohio) who said one reason Ohio produces quality players is the outstanding coaching kids get through high school. The number of Ohioans (or coaches who learned their craft in Ohio) who have become outstanding college coaches would seem to back this up.
Oct 7, 2011 11:06am
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Oct 7, 2011 5:07 PM
IF this happens EVERY head coach in country will be asking for a BIG raise. I figure Gee will give Meyer at least $1,000,000 more per year than the current highest paid Head Coach in College football. Peanuts for Ohio State. Gee recently received the single largest check from an alumni in the history of college donations. $100 MILLION.

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Oct 7, 2011 5:07pm
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Oct 7, 2011 5:08 PM
Big Gain;925298 wrote:IF this happens EVERY head coach in country will be asking for a BIG raise.
Whys that?
Oct 7, 2011 5:08pm
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Oct 7, 2011 5:18 PM
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Oct 7, 2011 5:18pm
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Oct 7, 2011 5:19 PM
Big Gain;925311 wrote:greed
Yeah I'm sure that will happen. I don't see them throwing out the cash to be the highest paid, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Oct 7, 2011 5:19pm
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Oct 7, 2011 10:39 PM
I'm starting to think that Ohio just has great coaches. I don't know the economics of school funding and class sizes of Ohio schools compared to Florida schools.

But I saw Hilliard Davidson play last year and saw Dublin Coffman tonight. Both teams are elite teams in the state of Ohio over the last 10 years. Neither team had great talent. But the thing that separated them from maybe a school in Florida or a talented team like Glenville is their discipline. That's all coaching.

So, maybe the coaching in Ohio HS football is better than other states, which makes people think the individuals talents are greater than what it truly is.

That may be a stretch, but it was something I was thinking about watching Coffman tonight, because they didn't have any players that wowed me.
Oct 7, 2011 10:39pm
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Oct 7, 2011 11:26 PM
thedynasty1998;925639 wrote:I'm starting to think that Ohio just has great coaches. I don't know the economics of school funding and class sizes of Ohio schools compared to Florida schools.

But I saw Hilliard Davidson play last year and saw Dublin Coffman tonight. Both teams are elite teams in the state of Ohio over the last 10 years. Neither team had great talent. But the thing that separated them from maybe a school in Florida or a talented team like Glenville is their discipline. That's all coaching.

So, maybe the coaching in Ohio HS football is better than other states, which makes people think the individuals talents are greater than what it truly is.

That may be a stretch, but it was something I was thinking about watching Coffman tonight, because they didn't have any players that wowed me.
Oct 7, 2011 11:26pm
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Oct 7, 2011 11:33 PM
dat dude;925754 wrote:
Texas has around 2x as many people in the state than Ohio, and California has around 3x, so this really isn't surprising.
Oct 7, 2011 11:33pm