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Apr 28, 2011 12:24 AM
Haha, not all franchises crash and burn like Cleveland. Keep hoping though, if it makes you feel better
Apr 28, 2011 12:24am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:24 AM
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They are saying he caught the ball simultaneously while touching the line. Which is STILL a back court violation.

He never established himself in the back court. His last established position was in the front court.
That contradicts yourself. If he catches it at the same time hes on the line, he is established in flux, essentially. So if 2/3 are in frontcourt, he has to go forward, 2/3 in backcourt he can do either. He was 2/3 in frontcourt and moved forward, legally. Then the next step was over and back, but the whistle had blown. You have to overturn at the whistle if the call is wrong.
Apr 28, 2011 12:24am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:25 AM
Laley23;752561 wrote:That contradicts yourself. If he catches it at the same time hes on the line, he is established in flux, essentially. So if 2/3 are in frontcourt, he has to go forward, 2/3 in backcourt he can do either. He was 2/3 in frontcourt and moved forward, legally. Then the next step was over and back, but the whistle had blown. You have to overturn at the whistle if the call is wrong.

Yeah, I don't think I worded what I wanted to say correctly.

But that was definitely a bad call.
Apr 28, 2011 12:25am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:26 AM
It looked like he caught it on the line, then came across to the front court and was abotu to take a step intot he backcourt and they blew the whistle and called the play dead before he could
Apr 28, 2011 12:26am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:26 AM
You are allowed to catch it in the back court there, and since he came down simultaneously on the line when he caught the ball, TECHNICALLY he hadn't established possession in the front court, crappy call but thats the rule.
Apr 28, 2011 12:26am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:28 AM
IF he caught the ball in the air, he is in the frontcourt, since he jumped from there. Thus landing on the line is over and back.

IF they ruled him catching it while on the line (ie, simultaniously) the call was correct...the overturn that is, because he is catching the ball "in flux" and is established position in both (but can only go forward if 2/3 parts are in frontcourt).

It sucks, cause 2 steps later HE DID commit an over and back, regardless of the initial call. But the whistle had blown, so that call never had a chance to even be made.
Apr 28, 2011 12:28am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:29 AM
Laley23;752567 wrote:IF he caught the ball in the air, he is in the frontcourt, since he jumped from there.

IF they ruled him catching it while on the line (ie, simultaniously) the call was correct...the overturn that is

It sucks, cause 2 steps later HE DID commit an over and back, regardless of the initial call. But the whistle had blown, so that call never had a chance to even be made.

Which is what he actually did IMO. The original call was the correct call.
Apr 28, 2011 12:29am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:32 AM
wildcats20;752568 wrote:Which is what he actually did IMO. The original call was the correct call.

yeah, I agree. But again, if the ref who initially made the call simply made the wrong call and not the wrong judgment (ie he called it over and back thinking it was simultaneous, than thats just a blown call and they corrected it). I cant imagine a guy would overturn the call if that wasnt the case. In that instance, tough to blame a guy making a split decision.

If that makes sense.
Apr 28, 2011 12:32am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:33 AM
Chuck made a good point. The referee staring directly down the line was overruled by someone who was in no position to see the play lol?
Apr 28, 2011 12:33am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:33 AM
And Chuck just made the best point of the whole thing.

A ref 30+ feet away over ruled the call. AKA David Stern "hit that button"
Apr 28, 2011 12:33am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:34 AM
Hang on though.

Even if they want to say he caught it simultaneously; his left foot came down first, BEFORE he had the ball. Doesn't that establish front court position?
Apr 28, 2011 12:34am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:37 AM
wildcats20;752572 wrote:Hang on though.

Even if they want to say he caught it simultaneously; his left foot came down first, BEFORE he had the ball. Doesn't that establish front court position?

no, you are allowed to land completely. However, if you land on one foot, and sort of have control, like you dont want the other foot to come down cause you dont know the rule, and hold it up for a second, and finally it comes down, its over an back. That is a HUGE judgment call that will never be overturned though lol.
Apr 28, 2011 12:37am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:38 AM
Hb31187;752570 wrote:Chuck made a good point. The referee staring directly down the line was overruled by someone who was in no position to see the play lol?

BUT, thats my point.

The crew chief may have said, you know if it is simultaneous it isnt over and back right? Then the guy who made the call mightve said, "oh I forgot, wrong call."

Thats my point. It may have been a blown call corrected, based on bad judgment initially.
Apr 28, 2011 12:38am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:38 AM
Laley23;752573 wrote:no, you are allowed to land completely. However, if you land on one foot, and sort of have control, like you dont want the other foot to come down cause you dont know the rule, and hold it up for a second, and finally it comes down, its over an back. That is a HUGE judgment call that will never be overturned though lol.

Correct, I believe it has to be both feet
Apr 28, 2011 12:38am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:40 AM
Laley23;752574 wrote:BUT, thats my point.

The crew chief may have said, you know if it is simultaneous it isnt over and back right? Then the guy who made the call mightve said, "oh I forgot, wrong call."

Thats my point. It may have been a blown call corrected, based on bad judgment initially.
Yeah that could of been the case, idk. Guess ill have to wait for the NBA to release a statement about the call, which im sure they will
Apr 28, 2011 12:40am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:44 AM
Hb31187;752577 wrote:Yeah that could of been the case, idk. Guess ill have to wait for the NBA to release a statement about the call, which im sure they will

yeah. Regardless, I think it was a bad call, because I think he caught it in the air and then landed.

But if the ref truly thought it was simultaneous, and just got the rule backwards initially. I dont think it is right to judge him on that, though it ended up being so unfortunate for the Nuggets. Both in the initial overturn, and in the fact that without the initial call, its over and back in 2 steps later.
Apr 28, 2011 12:44am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:47 AM
Was it back court 2 steps later? That same foot was on the line when he established himself in the backcourt and then that same foot came down on the line again. He technically would have still been in the backcourt because he wasn't fully over the line. Is that not correct?
Apr 28, 2011 12:47am
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Apr 28, 2011 12:54 AM
karen lotz;752581 wrote:Was it back court 2 steps later? That same foot was on the line when he established himself in the backcourt and then that same foot came down on the line again. He technically would have still been in the backcourt because he wasn't fully over the line. Is that not correct?

Nah, he caught the ball in flux. He had 1 foot in the front and 1 on the line. He was allowed to do this, but had to then advance forward. As soon as that left foot was picked up, he cant touch the line again, which he did when the left foot came down. Once it was picked up, he was 100% in the frontcourt, with possession.
Apr 28, 2011 12:54am
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Apr 28, 2011 9:13 AM
wildcats20;752470 wrote:Regardless of what happens in OT, Memphis is NOT losing game 6 at home. Not happening.

Says the guy who TWICE said the Spurs were losing this game, done for the season and Timmy retiring before Game 5 was over. :)
Apr 28, 2011 9:13am
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Apr 29, 2011 1:16 AM
Lakers vs Mavericks in the 2nd round
Apr 29, 2011 1:16am
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Apr 29, 2011 1:28 AM
Lakers will dominate that series. they have nobody for Bynum or Kobe
Apr 29, 2011 1:28am
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Apr 29, 2011 9:24 AM
like_that;749198 wrote:Lakers don't care about the playoffs.

smh
Apr 29, 2011 9:24am
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Apr 29, 2011 9:25 AM
Midstate01;749202 wrote:Or at least the first round. Or first 4 games

smh
Apr 29, 2011 9:25am
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Apr 29, 2011 9:26 AM
chicago510;749218 wrote:Kobe leaves NO on crutches...ruh roh.

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Apr 29, 2011 9:26am
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Apr 29, 2011 10:41 AM
Skyhook79;754090 wrote:smh

Well they obviously didn't care about game 1 or game 4 of the first round series.
Apr 29, 2011 10:41am