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Jun 17, 2011 2:35 PM
Wooball;805752 wrote:This would be a shocker, how pissed would Gasol be to get moved in that deal? And why would Minny want to trade Love plus the #2 overall for Pau Gasol? It's not like they are close to contending, although their GM is David Kahn

Key point.
Jun 17, 2011 2:35pm
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Jun 17, 2011 2:46 PM
Wooball;805752 wrote:This would be a shocker, how pissed would Gasol be to get moved in that deal? And why would Minny want to trade Love plus the #2 overall for Pau Gasol? It's not like they are close to contending, although their GM is David Kahn

If the Kobe/Gasol/Kobe's wife rumors are true, he might want out of Los Angeles. Not that Minny would be a favorable destination though. Kevin Love & the #2 would likely help the Lakers get well REAL quick .
Jun 17, 2011 2:46pm
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Jun 17, 2011 5:33 PM
sportswizuhrd;805750 wrote:Rumor: Pau Gasol to the T-Wolves for Kevin Love and the 2nd pick. T-Wolves like Gasol because of his relationship with Rubio.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=20154

I dont trust that rumor at all. Love is younger and probably just as good. Plus the 2nd overall pick would be gratuitous. If Kahn makes that trade, he should be fired on the spot
Jun 17, 2011 5:33pm
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Jun 17, 2011 11:24 PM
jordo212000;805936 wrote:I dont trust that rumor at all. Love is younger and probably just as good. Plus the 2nd overall pick would be gratuitous. If Kahn makes that trade, he should be fired on the spot

you do realize who you are talking about....the biggest joke in the NBA. Kahn is simply awful.
Jun 17, 2011 11:24pm
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Jun 18, 2011 1:37 AM
Yes, I wouldn't put it past Kahn to do this trade with his pants down and him willingly bent over.

Dude is a joke.
Jun 18, 2011 1:37am
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Jun 18, 2011 11:12 AM
If the Lakers get Derrick Williams and Kevin Love for Pau Gasol I'm going to go to Minny and kill Kahn.
Jun 18, 2011 11:12am
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Jun 18, 2011 11:33 AM
If the Lakers get Derrick Williams and Kevin Love for Pau Gasol I'm going to go to Minny and kill Kahn.
I will buy your ticket haha. It wouldn't surprise me if the Wolves did that trade. Kahn has a lot to lose if Rubio sucks. Two top picks sandwiched around good players, and Kahn came away with Flynn and Rubio. He is probably banking on Gasol to help him progress
Jun 18, 2011 11:33am
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Jun 18, 2011 6:26 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/news/story?id=6676088
The consensus among NBA teams is that Cleveland will select Duke freshman guard Kyrie Irving with the No. 1 pick in Thursday's draft.

But the Cavaliers aren't acting as if they've made a decision, and according to multiple sources, they are actively discussing a number of possibilities. They likely will go with Irving, but there are scenarios in which they might not.

The Cavaliers haven't told Irving that he is the No. 1 pick, and Arizona's Derrick Williams is a legitimate contender for the top spot.
SMH. Just take Irving.
Jun 18, 2011 6:26pm
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Jun 18, 2011 7:01 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/news/story?id=6676088
The consensus among NBA teams is that Cleveland will select Duke freshman guard Kyrie Irving with the No. 1 pick in Thursday's draft.

But the Cavaliers aren't acting as if they've made a decision, and according to multiple sources, they are actively discussing a number of possibilities. They likely will go with Irving, but there are scenarios in which they might not.

The Cavaliers haven't told Irving that he is the No. 1 pick, and Arizona's Derrick Williams is a legitimate contender for the top spot.
SMH. Just take Irving.
You gotta love when teams overthink their pick. I'm trying to figure out the motive for leaking this to the media?
Jun 18, 2011 7:01pm
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Jun 18, 2011 8:42 PM
jordo212000;806337 wrote:You gotta love when teams overthink their pick. I'm trying to figure out the motive for leaking this to the media?

Perhaps they are trying to get teams thinking that if the Cavs aren't sold on Irving they can possibly trade up and acquire the #1 pick. The Cavs probably won't trade out of the top slot, but why not field offers from teams?

I really can't think of any other reason, but it'd be dumb to not take him.
Jun 18, 2011 8:42pm
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Jun 19, 2011 8:51 AM
I still want to see them get that 2nd pick and get both of them. I still stand by my thought of Williams/Knight being better than Irving/Kanter.
Jun 19, 2011 8:51am
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Jun 19, 2011 11:24 AM
jordo212000;806337 wrote:You gotta love when teams overthink their pick. I'm trying to figure out the motive for leaking this to the media?

Why should Cleveland make it known they are taking Irving a week before the draft?

Let other teams ponder what you are going to do and just sit back.

Cleveland will be taking Irving and I think thats been locked up for some time now.
Jun 19, 2011 11:24am
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Jun 19, 2011 3:03 PM
You gotta love when teams overthink their pick. I'm trying to figure out the motive for leaking this to the media?


Why should Cleveland make it known they are taking Irving a week before the draft?



Let other teams ponder what you are going to do and just sit back.



Cleveland will be taking Irving and I think thats been locked up for some time now.
Lol. They have the first pick.

I can understand gamesmanship, but that usually comes from teams after the first pick.
Jun 19, 2011 3:03pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:05 PM
jordo212000;806707 wrote:Lol. They have the first pick.

I can understand gamesmanship, but that usually comes from teams after the first pick.

They have the first and fourth. Did you ever consider that some teams might make their decisions based on who is taken off the board with those picks? SMH, at your simple thinking.
Jun 19, 2011 3:05pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:08 PM
Lol. They have the first pick.

I can understand gamesmanship, but that usually comes from teams after the first pick.

They have the first and fourth. Did you ever consider that some teams might make their decisions based on who is taken off the board with those picks? SMH, at your simple thinking.
Everybody knows who they are picking. I have no problem with them putting on this show. It just makes me laugh that they think anybody is taking them seriously
Jun 19, 2011 3:08pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:09 PM
jordo212000;806712 wrote:Everybody knows who they are picking. I have no problem with them putting on this show. It just makes me laugh that they think anybody is taking them seriously

Since everyone knows (lmao) who are they taking with the 4th pick?
Jun 19, 2011 3:09pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:14 PM
Everybody knows who they are picking. I have no problem with them putting on this show. It just makes me laugh that they think anybody is taking them seriously

Since everyone knows (lmao) who are they taking with the 4th pick?
We're talking about the first pick, chief. They are saying they don't know who they are picking. We all know they are picking Irving. If they don't pick Irving or aren't sure yet, the organization is in big trouble
Jun 19, 2011 3:14pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:15 PM
jordo212000;806720 wrote:We're talking about the first pick, chief. They are saying they don't know who they are picking. We all know they are picking Irving. If they don't pick Irving or aren't sure yet, the organization is in big trouble

How do you know they are picking Irving? Are you an intern for their front office?
Jun 19, 2011 3:15pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:16 PM
jordo212000;806720 wrote:We're talking about the first pick, chief. They are saying they don't know who they are picking. We all know they are picking Irving. If they don't pick Irving or aren't sure yet, the organization is in big trouble

They could def go Williams or even a big like Kanter and try and take Knight with the #4 pick. Having options is key. Nice assumption fail.
Jun 19, 2011 3:16pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:17 PM
like_that;806722 wrote:How do you know they are picking Irving? Are you an intern for their front office?

No he's an expert because he heard it from Chad Ford on a 30 sec spot on Sports Center. You know the same Chad Ford that said that LBJ was going to Chicago because a waiter told him so in Chicago. LMAO.
Jun 19, 2011 3:17pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:23 PM
Its pretty clear who the consensus number one guy is, and they need a PG. Plus it has been widely reported that they are picking him.

You guys are the ones eating up a silly report right now. Not me. I'm not sure why you are bringing up Chad Ford to me
Jun 19, 2011 3:23pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:29 PM
jordo212000;806738 wrote:Its pretty clear who the consensus number one guy is, and they need a PG. Plus it has been widely reported that they are picking him.

You guys are the ones eating up a silly report right now. Not me. I'm not sure why you are bringing up Chad Ford to me

I am not eating up anything. I believe it will be Irving, but I don't think it's 100% a sure thing. Nothing ever is.
Jun 19, 2011 3:29pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:33 PM
I was just going to ask who you thought they were picking.

The NBA is becoming a PG league and you need somebody to handle Rondo and Rose. Plus they need a starting PG.

Williams is good, but you wonder if he'll develop a jumpshot. Plus what is he? Is he a PF or a 3? He's a little undersized.

Take Irving. It's a no brainer
Jun 19, 2011 3:33pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:34 PM
jordo212000;806712 wrote:Everybody knows who they are picking. I have no problem with them putting on this show. It just makes me laugh that they think anybody is taking them seriously

agreed.
Jun 19, 2011 3:34pm
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Jun 19, 2011 3:45 PM
jordo212000;806749 wrote: Williams is good, but you wonder if he'll develop a jumpshot.

Seriously? He has a lot of questions but that isn't one of them.

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Jun 19, 2011 3:45pm