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Jun 15, 2011 2:19 PM
NBAdraft.net new mock is back to Kyrie #1, Kanter #4, and Jajuan Johnson in the 2nd round.

I could not envision a scenario I would love more.
Jun 15, 2011 2:19pm
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Jun 15, 2011 2:35 PM
Better hope Kanter doesnt end up like a Darko type European big man lol.

What are the other choices really though for a PF/C to take that high?
Jun 15, 2011 2:35pm
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Jun 15, 2011 2:44 PM
Hb31187;803475 wrote:Better hope Kanter doesnt end up like a Darko type European big man lol.

What are the other choices really though for a PF/C to take that high?

Darko has a championship.

Darko > Lebron
Jun 15, 2011 2:44pm
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Jun 15, 2011 3:01 PM
Hb31187;803475 wrote:Better hope Kanter doesnt end up like a Darko type European big man lol.

What are the other choices really though for a PF/C to take that high?

Chad Ford has the Cavs selecting Jonas Valanciunas @ #4 over Enes Kanter. From what I have been reading the last couple weeks it seems like the Cavs like Jonas over Enes.
Jun 15, 2011 3:01pm
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Jun 15, 2011 3:02 PM
My bad, I forgot Darko>Lebron. silly mistake haha


Hmm, I know absolutely nothing about Jonas. Ill have to go look at him.
Jun 15, 2011 3:02pm
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Jun 15, 2011 3:08 PM
I still love the fact that fathead has no lebron one.
Jun 15, 2011 3:08pm
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Jun 15, 2011 3:29 PM
Hb31187;803508 wrote:

Hmm, I know absolutely nothing about Jonas. Ill have to go look at him.
I have watched some video and read some breakdowns of his game. He definitely does not have the offensive polish of Kanter or Motiejunas do at this point in their career. I'm not 100% sure that he really ever will catch up to either of those guys offensively. Right now a majority of his buckets come from pick and roll and offensive rebounds. He hasn't displayed any midrange game, but shot over 80% from the free throw line. He currently is playing in the highest division in Europe and putting up some decent #'s for a 19 year old. His per 40 #'s translate to 22 points/13 boards/1.5 blocks. He is 6'11" w/ anywhere from a 7'4 to 7'6 wingspan, depending on the scouting service you read. Like most young euro bigs he needs to add bulk, but one of his best attributes is he plays with high energy and is a willing defender, both defending the rim and on pick-and-rolls. Most have him and Kanter ranked as the #1 and #2 bigs out of Europe.

I wouldn't be upset w/ Valanciunas or Kanter at #4, assuming Williams is already off the board.
Jun 15, 2011 3:29pm
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Jun 15, 2011 7:21 PM
Wooball;803560 wrote:I have watched some video and read some breakdowns of his game. He definitely does not have the offensive polish of Kanter or Motiejunas do at this point in their career. I'm not 100% sure that he really ever will catch up to either of those guys offensively. Right now a majority of his buckets come from pick and roll and offensive rebounds. He hasn't displayed any midrange game, but shot over 80% from the free throw line. He currently is playing in the highest division in Europe and putting up some decent #'s for a 19 year old. His per 40 #'s translate to 22 points/13 boards/1.5 blocks. He is 6'11" w/ anywhere from a 7'4 to 7'6 wingspan, depending on the scouting service you read. Like most young euro bigs he needs to add bulk, but one of his best attributes is he plays with high energy and is a willing defender, both defending the rim and on pick-and-rolls. Most have him and Kanter ranked as the #1 and #2 bigs out of Europe.

I wouldn't be upset w/ Valanciunas or Kanter at #4, assuming Williams is already off the board.

sounds just like a varejao-type player. Kanter sounds like more of what we need
Jun 15, 2011 7:21pm
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Jun 15, 2011 7:47 PM
Give me Williams and Knight over Irving and a Euro...
Jun 15, 2011 7:47pm
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Jun 15, 2011 7:50 PM
slingshot4ever;803921 wrote:Give me Williams and Knight over Irving and a Euro...
I am in no way shape or form making the comparison, but at one point Dirk was considered "a Euro". Probably why the Bucks traded him for Tractor Traylor(RIP!).
Jun 15, 2011 7:50pm
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Jun 15, 2011 7:51 PM
slingshot4ever;803921 wrote:Give me Williams and Knight over Irving and a Euro...

everything is pointing to the cavs doing that deal to get the number two pick. They will end up with Williams and the masterbater.
Jun 15, 2011 7:51pm
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Jun 15, 2011 7:55 PM
Who is the one that was jackin off on tape lol? Irving?
Jun 15, 2011 7:55pm
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Jun 15, 2011 7:55 PM
Hb31187;803927 wrote:Who is the one that was jackin off on tape lol? Irving?

yep
Jun 15, 2011 7:55pm
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Jun 15, 2011 7:56 PM
Lmao, should of hit up that senior jersey chaser girl at duke who did a thesis on guys she fucked. if he really needed action that bad lol
Jun 15, 2011 7:56pm
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Jun 15, 2011 7:56 PM
wes_mantooth;803924 wrote:everything is pointing to the cavs doing that deal to get the number two pick..

What have you heard? I haven't heard anything about that since the proposed Wolves/Cavs/Pistons 3 way.
Jun 15, 2011 7:56pm
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Jun 15, 2011 7:57 PM
Hb31187;803930 wrote:Lmao, should of hit up that senior jersey chaser girl at duke who did a thesis on guys she fucked. if he really needed action that bad lol

Give it time, Sabrina Parr will be trying to jock his nuts before he even hits town...since we're speaking of jersey chasers.
Jun 15, 2011 7:57pm
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Jun 15, 2011 7:59 PM
BR1986FB;803931 wrote:What have you heard? I haven't heard anything about that since the proposed Wolves/Cavs/Pistons 3 way.

pretty much the same scenario. This thing will more than likely stay in place right up until the draft starts from the rumors I have heard. Pistons really want out of Rips contract
Jun 15, 2011 7:59pm
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Jun 15, 2011 8:00 PM
BR1986FB;803932 wrote:Give it time, Sabrina Parr will be trying to jock his nuts before he even hits town...since we're speaking of jersey chasers.

true, but Sabrina's ugly ass would stand no chance with a star player...she only bangs poor to average players.
Jun 15, 2011 8:00pm
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Jun 15, 2011 8:01 PM
BR1986FB;803932 wrote:Give it time, Sabrina Parr will be trying to jock his nuts before he even hits town...since we're speaking of jersey chasers.
Name doesnt ring a bell, who is she?
Jun 15, 2011 8:01pm
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Jun 15, 2011 8:02 PM
Hb31187;803938 wrote:Name doesnt ring a bell, who is she?

she was banging Brandon McDonald and trying to bang Braylon a few years ago. She is a wknr employee
Jun 15, 2011 8:02pm
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Jun 15, 2011 8:04 PM
wes_mantooth;803940 wrote:she was banging Brandon McDonald and trying to bang Braylon a few years ago. She is a wknr employee

Yeah, and she accused McDonald of domestic violence when anyone with knowledge of McDonald's defensive "skills" knows that B-Mac never hits ANYONE.
Jun 15, 2011 8:04pm
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Jun 15, 2011 8:06 PM
BR1986FB;803941 wrote:Yeah, and she accused McDonald of domestic violence when anyone with knowledge of McDonald's defensive "skills" knows that B-Mac never hits ANYONE.

I wonder if she will ever take Goldhammers virginity?
Jun 15, 2011 8:06pm
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Jun 15, 2011 8:07 PM
wes_mantooth;803943 wrote:I wonder if she will ever take Goldhammers virginity?

That was probably Goldhammer's hand that took Kyrie's in that video....
Jun 15, 2011 8:07pm
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Jun 15, 2011 8:09 PM
Brandon Mcdonald...haha man she sure knows how to pick the big name stars to sleep with haha
Jun 15, 2011 8:09pm
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Jun 15, 2011 8:11 PM
Hb31187;803945 wrote:Brandon Mcdonald...haha man she sure knows how to pick the big name stars to sleep with haha

Exactly!
Jun 15, 2011 8:11pm