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Jan 21, 2011 12:37 PM
justincredible;646790 wrote:One would be a personal foul, one would not. I have no problem with how Hines plays but a cheap shot isn't the same as a hold.

The "cheap shots" that were brought up by others and I'm referring to are the borderline blocks/personal fouls. When somebody gets nailed on the side or when they just turn around.

Hines is just trying to help his team. It doesn't matter if one play is more physical than the other. The rules should be the rules.
Jan 21, 2011 12:37pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:39 PM
justincredible;646791 wrote:I agree with you, but that jersey tug in the first game was neither Revis nor Cromartie.

The last one was Lowery but Cromartie had several throughout the game on Wallace that the replays showed.
Jan 21, 2011 12:39pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:40 PM
Non;646814 wrote:The last one was Lowery but Cromartie had several throughout the game on Wallace that the replays showed.

why don't you cry some more?
Jan 21, 2011 12:40pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:42 PM
justincredible;646805 wrote:This is Bart Scott's 3rd consecutive. I think he would literally kill someone to win it this time.

I got to think Flozell Adams wants it more. The guy has 14 seasons in the league and has won nothing.
Jan 21, 2011 12:42pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:43 PM
DeyDurkie5;646816 wrote:why don't you cry some more?

Nice avatar
Jan 21, 2011 12:43pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:44 PM
Art Modell;646822 wrote:I got to think Flozell Adams wants it more.

Don't forget Jason Taylor. Bart and Jason have a greater chance of impacting the outcome due to their positions.
Jan 21, 2011 12:44pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:44 PM
DeyDurkie5;646816 wrote:why don't you cry some more?

I was just correcting justin.

He thought we were talking about just one hold.
Jan 21, 2011 12:44pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:46 PM
justincredible;646809 wrote:Maybe?

CAN'T WAIT!
Jan 21, 2011 12:46pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:48 PM
Non;646812 wrote:The "cheap shots" that were brought up by others and I'm referring to are the borderline blocks/personal fouls. When somebody gets nailed on the side or when they just turn around.

Hines is just trying to help his team. It doesn't matter if one play is more physical than the other. The rules should be the rules.

Agreed. But I'm not sure why you can be so against Revis and Cromartie holding and so for what Hines does. I mean I understand it because he plays for your team but if you let it slide for your guy you gotta let it slide for others. That's why I said I have nothing against the way Hines plays. I know that Revis and Cromartie are extremely physical and get away with a lot of shit.
Jan 21, 2011 12:48pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:49 PM
justincredible;646838 wrote:Agreed. But I'm not sure why you can be so against Revis and Cromartie holding and so for what Hines does. I mean I understand it because he plays for your team but if you let it slide for your guy you gotta let it slide for others. That's why I said I have nothing against the way Hines plays. I know that Revis and Cromartie are extremely physical and get away with a lot of shit.

they are steelers fans..enough said.
Jan 21, 2011 12:49pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:49 PM
justincredible;646827 wrote:Don't forget Jason Taylor. Bart and Jason have a greater chance of impacting the outcome due to their positions.

Steelers have several players who haven't won but they also have a group of players trying to win their third Super Bowl in six years. There's that side of it, too.

Along with No. 7 all time for the franchise.

So on one hand you have the Jets trying to break a long drought but then the Steelers working on multiple Super Bowls.
Jan 21, 2011 12:49pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:52 PM
Last week they called it pretty tight early on in the steelers game.

In the big games officials usually:
1. Call it VERY tight, even some ticky tack stuff, closer than the regular season, to set the tone and standard for the game.
2. Let stuff slide and let the players decide it without much official intervention.

Expect both defensive backfields to test the officials early on with what will and will not be considered 'holding' or 'illegal' contact.
Jan 21, 2011 12:52pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:52 PM
justincredible;646838 wrote:Agreed. But I'm not sure why you can be so against Revis and Cromartie holding and so for what Hines does. I mean I understand it because he plays for your team but if you let it slide for your guy you gotta let it slide for others. That's why I said I have nothing against the way Hines plays. I know that Revis and Cromartie are extremely physical and get away with a lot of shit.

That's basically what I said, though, in a different way.

I'm not against Revis and Cromartie holding as much if the Steelers get away with shit.
Jan 21, 2011 12:52pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:53 PM
Just because I am a Jets fan doesn't mean there is free reign to troll the Steelers fans on here. This is a warning. Unless you are going to talk about the game at hand or bring something to the thread other than ripping on the Steelers fans please refrain from posting.
Jan 21, 2011 12:53pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:53 PM
Non;646851 wrote:That's basically what I said, though, in a different way.

I'm not against Revis and Cromartie holding as much if the Steelers get away with shit.

Alright, gotcha.
Jan 21, 2011 12:53pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:54 PM
Pick6;646840 wrote:they are steelers fans..enough said.
........and you're a hater, enough siad!
Jan 21, 2011 12:54pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:54 PM
thavoice;646850 wrote:Last week they called it pretty tight early on in the steelers game.

In the big games officials usually:
1. Call it VERY tight, even some ticky tack stuff, closer than the regular season, to set the tone and standard for the game.
2. Let stuff slide and let the players decide it without much official intervention.

Expect both defensive backfields to test the officials early on with what will and will not be considered 'holding' or 'illegal' contact.

I'm hoping the go with #2. Let the players play the game.
Jan 21, 2011 12:54pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:54 PM
Pick6;646840 wrote:they are steelers fans..enough said.

And you're a Bengals fan....enough said.

See, that was easy.
Jan 21, 2011 12:54pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:55 PM
justincredible;646856 wrote:I'm hoping the go with #2. Let the players play the game.

I'd like to see that happen but I won't hold my breath.
Jan 21, 2011 12:55pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:57 PM
killer_ewok;646857 wrote:And you're a Bengals fan....enough said.

See, that was easy.

yea, but i dont think players are deserving of cheap shots for committing a common penalty, should kill themselves, etc.
Jan 21, 2011 12:57pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:57 PM
justincredible;646856 wrote:I'm hoping the go with #2. Let the players play the game.

I agree. It's hard to get excited about a big play because you're waiting to see if a flag was thrown.
Jan 21, 2011 12:57pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:58 PM
killer_ewok;646859 wrote:I'd like to see that happen but I won't hold my breath.

Who is the referee? Hochuli, right? He does like to get his tv time to show off his guns. Maybe since he'll be forced to wear long sleeves he won't be too worried about it? :)
Jan 21, 2011 12:58pm
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Jan 21, 2011 12:58 PM
The officiating crews change in the playoffs.

The refs work with different groups, I believe.

But in general, Jeff Triplette is a clumsy ref and there tends to be a lot of shaky calls both ways in his games. Last week kind of lived up to that.

Hochuli is usually thorough and if anything more on top of things than he needs to be. He likes to make sure you know he's the ref and he'll explain things in great detail.
Jan 21, 2011 12:58pm
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Jan 21, 2011 1:00 PM
..but on the same token I dont wanna see receivers getting mauled and not gettinig it called. I hope they call it straight up and not either of what I stated usually happens.
Jan 21, 2011 1:00pm
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Jan 21, 2011 1:01 PM
Pick6;646863 wrote:yea, but i dont think players are deserving of cheap shots for committing a common penalty, should kill themselves, etc.

Seriously guy,Being you are a Bengals fan I can understand your hatred towards Pittsburgh. Like I said in an earlier post this is Wards 5th championship game and your team hasn't even won a playoff game in that same time period.
Jan 21, 2011 1:01pm