BR1986FB;1025079 wrote:He's not as good (worth wasting another year on) as some of you think, is all I'm saying.

DeyDurkie5;1025087 wrote:if colt is around, gets weapons, and takes us to teh playoffs, will you buy me a steak dinner and give me control of your avatar for the duration of the playoffs?

BR1986FB;1025093 wrote:You won't have to worry about that because if he's the QB of the team I may not be watching. His game is unbearable to watch to me.

Sonofanump;1025171 wrote:Who is able to give the Colts these three first rounders taht they might demand? I would not give up much more than the 4th (or 5th) and 21st (Atl) to land him. Who would be able to give them more, would team give up their first round picks in the next three drafts?

buckeyes_woowee;1025181 wrote:If the Browns do make a move on a QB, what would they be able to get for McCoy? I'm thinking a 3rd rounder?

BR1986FB;1025184 wrote:Doubtful. Likely 4th or 5th BUT, if the Colts were willing to part with the #1 then McCoy could be tossed in the package as Manning's backup/QB in waiting.

DeyDurkie5;1025054 wrote:10. Judging McCoy: As the debate swirls about whether Colt McCoy should be the Browns' quarterback of the future, it's worth keeping in mind a couple of issues. Had Cleveland's defense and special teams not squandered a 10-point third-quarter lead against the Bengals in Week 12, and had Phil Dawson connected on a chip-shot, game-winning field-goal attempt against the Rams in Week 10, then McCoy would have been a respectable 6-7 in his 13 starts and his support would have been greater than it is now.

Mulva;1025201 wrote:I love Schefter, but that's bullshit. If we're going to take in mind those issues, let's consider these ones too.

1. It's easy to "squander" a 10 point lead when the offense only puts up 3 points in the 2nd half.

2. Had the defense not put up a last second goal line stand against Jacksonville, the Browns offense not put together what I would almost guarantee was literally it's best drive (80 yards an a TD) of the season in the final 3 minutes against Miami, and had Marshawn Lynch and Tavaris Jackson been healthy for Seattle instead of Whitehurst and Forsett, he could be a horrific 1-12 in his 13 starts and have 0 support at all.

The "if this had happened" game is the stupidest thing out there in the NFL, because you could easily swing every team in the league's record by 3 games either way playing it.

BR1986FB;1025183 wrote:I don't think the Colts would trade the pick but I think the Rams would. I'd think a team would want more "bang" immediately which is why the Browns two 1st rounders would be tempting.

I think a team would want a helluva lot more compensation if they had to wait until 2013 & 2014 for the rest of the 1st rounders.

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BR1986FB;1026748 wrote:Which if they were slotted at #3 would almost ensure that they'd have a shot at RG3 if Holmgren/Heckert fall in love with him.

like_that;1026751 wrote:Unless the Dolphins or Skins trade up to the Rams spot.

BR1986FB;1026755 wrote:That's why I said "almost." And if that's the case and the Browns want him, they still have more to offer than either of those teams without selling the farm.

like_that;1026757 wrote:Not sure if I like the idea of giving up the other first to move up 1 spot.

BR1986FB;1026760 wrote:I don't know that they'd have to but I'm sure the Rams would want it.

DeyDurkie5;1027192 wrote:Can't wait for this draft. Going to be interesting to see how it plays out.

Thinking about it realistically, I don't see how they don't draft RG3 in that spot. I don't like it, but I mean who else are you going to take?

like_that;1027195 wrote:A team might trade up for RGIII, or the Browns might be dumb as hell and take richardson.