^^^^

It is shocking to me how bold and blatantly out of touch the left wing and its lapdogs have become in just two years of power. I never thought it was possible for them to piss away their credibility as much as the GOP did, but they have done it quickly and effectively.

The only folks dumb enough to believe that Newsweek poll are the same people dumb enough to schedule a public union (I mean non-partisan One Nation) rally on a Saturday during football season - at least Beck was smart enough to schedule his BEFORE football season.

This country is in the toilet, and people aren't buying this BS anymore.

(I mean non-partisan One Nation)

I watched Ed Schultz's "unifying" diatribe at the rally.His effort failed miserably, if he was trying to unify anything or anybody. He sees a problem for his side and is trying to follow President Obama's lead.

Manhattan Buckeye;505594 wrote:^^^^

It is shocking to me how bold and blatantly out of touch the left wing and its lapdogs have become in just two years of power. I never thought it was possible for them to piss away their credibility as much as the GOP did, but they have done it quickly and effectively.

The only folks dumb enough to believe that Newsweek poll are the same people dumb enough to schedule a public union (I mean non-partisan One Nation) rally on a Saturday during football season - at least Beck was smart enough to schedule his BEFORE football season.

This country is in the toilet, and people aren't buying this BS anymore.

The country isn't in the toilet. At least not yet.

And people are buying the BS. Just in a different wrapper. We've gone from paper to plastic (R to D) and now maybe are going to one of those bags made out of recycled bottles or cloth or something. But inside they're all full of shit anyways so what does what they look like really matter?

I Wear Pants;506585 wrote:The country isn't in the toilet. At least not yet.

And people are buying the BS. Just in a different wrapper. We've gone from paper to plastic (R to D) and now maybe are going to one of those bags made out of recycled bottles or cloth or something. But inside they're all full of shit anyways so what does what they look like really matter?

Which is a large part of the reason this country is in the toilet.

We have rhino Repubs who are happy with the DC Status Quo and who spend like Dems (IE: Dem Lite) and the Democratic Party which has been so severely hijacked by its ultra-leftist base that it thinks we should be a suburb of socialist Europe.

Meanwhile BOTH parties and Wall Streeters have eagerly sold the souls of our children and grandchildren to the Chi-coms for money we'll never be able to repay.

And while American industrial might has dissolved, Big Labor (still mired in early 20th Century mentality) insists on pricing itself out of the global labor market helping to facilitate its own demise. So the temporary answer to that issue, of course, is for the taxpayer to take over the American auto industry....or what's left of it.

Politicians on both sides of the aisle and Wall Streeters worked hand-in-hand to create the sub-prime mortgage meltdown but taxpayers underwritten by the Chi-coms have come to the short-term rescue once again. But the crazy thing is foreclosures are still happening at an alarming rate and despite $875 BILLION in taxpayer "stimulus" unemployment is still hovering at 10% for two years running....and no end in sight.

We're fighting an increasingly fruitless war in Afghanistan and despite what BHO says, America is still playing a combat role in Iraq. And for some unknown reason we still spend billions of dollars maintaining a military presence in Europe to protect the Europeans from themselves (?) despite the end of the Cold War.

And while we all agree that we need to become energy self-sufficient as a nation, DC politicians are so beholden to a relative handful of environmental radicals we lack the political gonads to take the steps necessary to make that happen. Meanwhile the Chi-coms are partnering with Cuba to drill for oil in the Gulf of Mexico so THEY can secure their own economic future.

Speaking of Mexico the Feds refuse to enforce its own laws and secure our southern border against ILLEGAL immigration and then have the unmitigated gall to sue one of its own states for having the courage to do what the Feds refuse to do. Unbelievable.

You can believe we aren't in the toilet yet but all of this smells like shit to me.

GREAT post, Believer!

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Change we can believe in ...............

QuakerOats;509305 wrote:wbztv.com/video/?id=[email protected]


Change we can believe in ...............

Yeah, I posted this story on another thread a few weeks ago. But, the article I read didn't display her as a little bit nutty. This interview does.
So... she's been living on public assistance for years.

*** NEWSFLASH***

She's not the only one. And, is anybody shocked? Her being Obama's relative has nothing to do with that aspect. Whether he should feel some shame in that is another story altogether.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/143426/Gallup-Finds-Unemployment-September.aspx


Change we can believe in ...............

Obama grew a sack today and is going to Veto the "Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act" that was passed by Congress last week without a vote that would have made the foreclosure process much easier for banks.

In case anyone questioned just how bought and paid for both parties are consider that in a Senate that can't get anything done because of partisan gridlock, HR 3808 mysteriously passes by unanimous consent with the help of Socialist Pat Leahey and Conservative Jeff Sessions just as the foreclosure scandal is breaking nation wide.

When the banksters called in a favor to have this done in the dark of night before the Congressional recess to hopefully make this upcoming foreclosure crisis easier to deal with for themselves, one of the most liberal and conservative members of each party had no problems working together to get it done ASAP. Not surprisingly they made sure to avoid a paper trail and not have the vote recorded in either house of Congress so that they could never be implicated as being complicit in doing the bidding of the TBTF banks.

That bill is as clear a sign as one could need that both the Democrats and Republicans in Washington are corrupt to the core and fully owned subsidiaries of the financial services industry.

I am sure after the elections Obama will sign a version of it when there is no more fear of a populist outcry once the issue had some light shined on it, but at least for now he is showing a hint of a spine.

IggyPride00;510686 wrote:Obama grew a sack today and is going to Veto the "Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act" that was passed by Congress last week without a vote that would have made the foreclosure process much easier for banks.

In case anyone questioned just how bought and paid for both parties are consider that in a Senate that can't get anything done because of partisan gridlock, HR 3808 mysteriously passes by unanimous consent with the help of Socialist Pat Leahey and Conservative Jeff Sessions just as the foreclosure scandal is breaking nation wide.

When the banksters called in a favor to have this done in the dark of night before the Congressional recess to hopefully make this upcoming foreclosure crisis easier to deal with for themselves, one of the most liberal and conservative members of each party had no problems working together to get it done ASAP. Not surprisingly they made sure to avoid a paper trail and not have the vote recorded in either house of Congress so that they could never be implicated as being complicit in doing the bidding of the TBTF banks.

That bill is as clear a sign as one could need that both the Democrats and Republicans in Washington are corrupt to the core and fully owned subsidiaries of the financial services industry.

I am sure after the elections Obama will sign a version of it when there is no more fear of a populist outcry once the issue had some light shined on it, but at least for now he is showing a hint of a spine.

I'll agree with most of that, and I would love to implicate them, but it would sure be a lot easier with a link or a source there, Iggy.

I'll agree with most of that, and I would love to implicate them, but it would sure be a lot easier with a link or a source there, Iggy.

How Did This Pass?

There is a report today that President Obama will pocket veto a bill that seems to have sailed through Congress with virtually no debate.

It is politely called the Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act. A cynical friend calls it the “Forgery Is Okay When the Bank Does It Act”

The bill would have required courts to accept out-of-state notarizations. That sounds reasonable until you recall that there is a spate of accusations — and some admissions — that banks submitted fraudulent statements, improperly notarized — to justify foreclosures. The Justice Department is investigating, and three major lenders have suspended foreclosures.

I do not think someone who fails to pay his mortgage should be able to avoid foreclosure, but I do think it is outrageous that the banks, or at least some of their lawyers, thought it was O.K. to lie to get foreclosures through. They were trying to cover-up shoddy work.

Given the way the Senate has been tied up — it can’t pass major legislation that a majority favors — how did this bill fly through? What lobbyists were behind it? Which senators quietly pushed it through?

I hope we will find out.

http://norris.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/how-did-this-pass/


This was a post at the NY TImes that asked the same question I am.

How in the world does a Senate hopelessly gridlocked pass a bill in late September by unanimous consent with no recorded vote that would make foreclosures much easier for the banks just as details are starting to emerge that there is a wave of paperwork fraud going on in the foreclosure process?

The Bill originated in the House as far back as 2007, and just now the Senate rams it through on a bi-partisan basis as the shit is about to hit the fan for the banks because they were in such a hurry to securitize mortgages that they did a shitty job of record keeping and now it could be coming back to bite them in the ass.

I want to know where the Tea Party is right now to raise hell that Conservative senators were in cahoots with socialists like Leahey to usurp the states rights to write their own laws regarding notaries because of a big government decree passed in the dark of night.

This was nothing more than the financial services lobby calling their minions in Congress to get them to pass a law that will make it easier to cover up the mess they made and don't want to have to pay for. The banks tried to bend the American taxpayer over again to re-write the rules in the middle of the game and were it not for some activist blogger somewhere that blew the whistle on this I am sure it would have succeeded and Obama would have signed it like he was supposed to.

Dirty Rotten MF's!

Wow...that's some wacky shit! Have any names surfaced as to who pushed this thing through on both sides?

IggyPride00;510914 wrote:http://norris.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/how-did-this-pass/


This was a post at the NY TImes that asked the same question I am.

How in the world does a Senate hopelessly gridlocked pass a bill in late September by unanimous consent with no recorded vote that would make foreclosures much easier for the banks just as details are starting to emerge that there is a wave of paperwork fraud going on in the foreclosure process?

The Bill originated in the House as far back as 2007, and just now the Senate rams it through on a bi-partisan basis as the shit is about to hit the fan for the banks because they were in such a hurry to securitize mortgages that they did a shitty job of record keeping and now it could be coming back to bite them in the ass.

I want to know where the Tea Party is right now to raise hell that Conservative senators were in cahoots with socialists like Leahey to usurp the states rights to write their own laws regarding notaries because of a big government decree passed in the dark of night.
This was nothing more than the financial services lobby calling their minions in Congress to get them to pass a law that will make it easier to cover up the mess they made and don't want to have to pay for. The banks tried to bend the American taxpayer over again to re-write the rules in the middle of the game and were it not for some activist blogger somewhere that blew the whistle on this I am sure it would have succeeded and Obama would have signed it like he was supposed to.

That's messed up. I would guess they're not raising hell because nobody really knows about it? The Senate is a mess anyway, from a Conservative's perspective. I mean, guys (and girls) like Voinovich, McCain, Snowe, Collins, Castle, etc., etc., haven't exactly been standard-bearers for things the Tea Party stands for.

jhay78;510822 wrote:I'll agree with most of that, and I would love to implicate them, but it would sure be a lot easier with a link or a source there, Iggy.

This could shock some, but I'm glad Obama vetoed this garbage. Foreclosures should be hard to do.

Have any names surfaced as to who pushed this thing through on both sides?

Jeff Sessions, one of the most Conservative members of the Senate teamed up with Pat Leahey from Vermont (a Socialist) to get it through committee warp speed.

It was also cleared through the office of Jim Demint, who has a blanket hold on all business in the Senate at this point if you will remember from a couple of weeks ago.

All it takes is one Senator to raise an objection against unanimous consent to stop something in its tracks.

Sessions and Demint (2 of the biggest Conservative standard bearers) are knee deep in this filth with the worst of the left right now.

As I and others have tried to say, Conservatives and Liberals are serving the same corporate masters once they get to Washington.

Captialism in America has given way to crony capitalism where the game is rigged, and Congress is nothing more than appendage of big business to fleece the American people. Both parties are complicit, and this should set off the alarm bells to anyone with a brain who realizes it is way more than coincidence this flew threw a gridlocked Senate sitting on more than 400 bills with no movement on them right on the eve of the foreclosure fraud scandal going mainstream.

Banks for too long have used fine print and the letter of the law as a means of screwing over the American people (and used the sanctity of the contract to extract 100's of billions through AIG) but now that their shoddy record keeping could let others use those contracts to make life miserable for them they just decide to try and have government institutionalize the fraud for them and make it legal. Lucky for them they have a bought and paid for Congress to call in favors to.

All it would have taken is 1 senator to object to unanimous consent and this thing doesn't happen. That means every Republican and Democrat were in on this, which just shows that from the biggest Conservative warrior to the most flaming liberal, they are all in on the racket.

^^^Iggy summed it up. Happy to see someone else think the way I do on this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43296.html

President Barack Obama’s message to thousands of African Americans who came to see the man they voted for two years ago was simple: Get out and vote for the Democratic ticket in next month’s mid-term elections, even though he’s not on the ballot. “Don’t make me look bad, now,” he quipped.

Hey Barry...I'm 100% certain your base is NOT what's causing you to look bad.

I realize one must be a bit of an egotist and narcissist to become POTUS but this guy really does believe he's the Second Coming.

By the way, while I don't have any particular objection to BHO addressing a largely black audience can you imagine what the leftist media would have done to Bush had he spoken in front of a deliberately whites-only audience and said, "don't make me look bad"?

My point? Now that Barry is feeling the political heat, you can bet the good ol' boy ranch that the race card will be played over and over and over during his re-election bid. This is just the beginning.....stay tuned.

"By the way, while I don't have any particular objection to BHO addressing a largely black audience can you imagine what the leftist media would have done to Bush had he spoken in front of a deliberately whites-only audience and said, "don't make me look bad"?"

Actually I think the media is starting to come around - this isn't the first "racialist" comment he's made on this new campaign trail (BTW shouldn't he be acting as POTUS instead of politicking - I understand he's far more successful at the latter but still?) that the media has highlighted. I wouldn't call it racist, but is definitely racialist, which is egg on the face for a fawning media two years ago that declared him a post-racial politician. No one likes to be made fools of. And BO has made fools out of a lot of folks, those smart enough to see it are going to be soured how he's acting the exact opposite of how he campaigned two years ago.

believer;515819 wrote:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43296.html

Hey Barry...I'm 100% certain your base is NOT what's causing you to look bad.

I realize one must be a bit of an egotist and narcissist to become POTUS but this guy really does believe he's the Second Coming.

By the way, while I don't have any particular objection to BHO addressing a largely black audience can you imagine what the leftist media would have done to Bush had he spoken in front of a deliberately whites-only audience and said, "don't make me look bad"?

My point? Now that Barry is feeling the political heat, you can bet the good ol' boy ranch that the race card will be played over and over and over during his re-election bid. This is just the beginning.....stay tuned.

You do realize that he was just making a joke right???

Manhattan,every President goes out and campaigns for their party,only reason Bush didn't in 2008 is that no one wanted him

Ty Webb;516201 wrote:Manhattan,every President goes out and campaigns for their party,only reason Bush didn't in 2008 is that no one wanted him

Good observation about Bush, because no Repubs wanted to be anywhere near his toxic ass. However, I saw a poll over the weekend by CNN (link = http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/08/cnntime-poll-was-bush-better-president-than-obama/) that said 47% of people surveyed think Obama is a better prez than Bush and 45% say GWB was better. Looks like Barry is trending to be just like George and Dems don't want to be in photos with him either. Re: Russ Feingold in Wisconsin last week when Barry came tootin his own horn into Madison, WI.

On your other point, I'd like the president to be president at least 75% of the time and quit parading himself in front of cameras and teleprompters so damn much. Vacations don't count as acting presidential. I know he prefers speeches by a wide margin over actually governing, but it is the job he pined for and was elected to perform. He wasn't elected to be the "Campaigner in Chief".

Honestly, I think alot of President Obama's problem right now is just a Presidential problem in and of itself. I don't think it would be any different for McCain or anybody else who might be Prez right now. The record of politics and general disgust with the federal government is reaching critical mass with the general American public right now. And I don't see it changing anytime soon, the next administration is going to catch Seven Kinds Of Hell in their own right. Add in the fact that Obama is just adding to the problems (which any new governmental policies would) paints him into a corner he cannot escape at this point.

All of what I'm saying is just from looking at it objectively. It gets worse when you add it the specific blunders that he has chosen to make.

BGFalcons82;516231 wrote:I know he prefers speeches by a wide margin over actually governing, but it is the job he pined for and was elected to perform. He wasn't elected to be the "Campaigner in Chief".

Campaigning and being a community organizer (whatever that is) is all BHO knows. He is not even close to being qualified to function as a chief executive and it becomes painfully more apparent with each passing day.

I can't even listen to his speeches anymore. I used to enjoy analyzing his arrogance, watching his smug self-righteousness, and counting the number of times he uttered, "uh". Now it's just more "change and hopelessness."

BHO is in way over his head. I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear him announce he will not seek re-election.

CenterBHSFan;516411 wrote:Honestly, I think alot of President Obama's problem right now is just a Presidential problem in and of itself. I don't think it would be any different for McCain or anybody else who might be Prez right now. The record of politics and general disgust with the federal government is reaching critical mass with the general American public right now. And I don't see it changing anytime soon, the next administration is going to catch Seven Kinds Of Hell in their own right. Add in the fact that Obama is just adding to the problems (which any new governmental policies would) paints him into a corner he cannot escape at this point.

All of what I'm saying is just from looking at it objectively. It gets worse when you add it the specific blunders that he has chosen to make.

We both know that I disagree with you as to the extent of Obama's blunders but I agree with much of this post. The idea that another president right now wouldn't be catching all the flak Obama is couldn't be more insane. The economy wouldn't be noticably better (nor worse) in my opinion under Mccain so instead of "damn liberal Obama" we'd simply have a lot of "he's just as bad as Bush" sentiment.

Not a good time to be a president if you care about the public opinion of you.

believer;516470 wrote:Campaigning and being a community organizer (whatever that is) is all BHO knows. He is not even close to being qualified to function as a chief executive and it becomes painfully more apparent with each passing day.

I can't even listen to his speeches anymore. I used to enjoy analyzing his arrogance, watching his smug self-righteousness, and counting the number of times he uttered, "uh". Now it's just more "change and hopelessness."

BHO is in way over his head. wouldn't be at all surprised to hear him announce he will not seek re-election.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/02/24/obama_aides_already_planning_re-election_campaign.html
http://www.newser.com/story/81680/obama-team-already-planning-for-2012.html

Axlrod has also stated that he is leaving his job as Sr. White House Advisor to start to work on Obama's re-election

Fox News has him leading every Republican challenger,with Romney coming the closest. If he was as screwed as some of you think he is...wouldn't Fox News at least have him trailing a couple of them?