2024 Presidential Election Thread

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jmog

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 11:39 AM
posted by geeblock

The set of circumstances that would allow one parent to not be notified is extremely narrow and unlikely. Certainly the way he described the whole process I’m going to assume was trolling. 


It’s already happened, and it was just like that. Dont call someone a troll when you are the one wrong, looks bad.


jmog

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 11:41 AM
posted by geeblock

I’m sure they also think that the democrats are killing babies after they are born also. I have a friend who went off on me last week saying how can I vote for a party that kids babies after birth. 

This I believe is why the gop can’t win until they stop peddling lies that reasonable people can easily see through. No one is killing babies after they are born and they aren’t stealing your child so they can change their sex. 

1. It’s laughable to call one party full of lies and not call the other side the same. Rs saying Ds are killing already born babies is like the Ds saying Rs want to force 12 year old rape victims of incest to be forced to have their baby even if they are going to die from child birth. 



geeblock

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 11:53 AM
posted by jmog

It’s already happened, and it was just like that. Dont call someone a troll when you are the one wrong, looks 


Please provide links the the law where it says that and links to where this happened. I’ll leave it at that. 

jmog

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 11:55 AM

All studies admit that close to 20,000 kids have at least been put on puberty blockers (which are chemical castration drugs given to sex offenders as well) in the US in the last few years. 


Studies also show that 80% of gender dysphoria patients that start any form of transition as a child transition back as an adult and regret it. 


Those that had actual surgeries are changed for life and lupron and other  puberty blockers also have life altering affects.  Some are infertile permanently.

CenterBHSFan

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 1:51 PM
posted by Heretic

Someone wake me when the discussion goes away from some random talking point boogeyman and back to something important I can at least pretend to care about.

I tried to bring the topic back to the upcoming election a couple of times, but you know how people are lol

CenterBHSFan

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 1:53 PM
posted by geeblock
Please provide links the the law where it says that and links to where this happened. I’ll leave it at that. 

We have talked about this early in the trans thread, I believe. Please go look.

Heretic

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 2:09 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

I tried to bring the topic back to the upcoming election a couple of times, but you know how people are lol

Well, let's try this: How much of an effect will Kennedy have and which side will he pull more votes from?

On one hand, he would have run as a D if he hadn't been froze out of the club and given no legit chance at going against Biden, which would put the lean that way. On the other, Online MAGA seems big mad because Joe Rogan endorsed Kennedy and with how the right loved him due to things like questioning COVID protocols, that gives me the impression there's at least a little fear that his status could lead to younger voters who dig his show going to Kennedy.

I mean, overall, third party candidates never do well, but with as close as these things can be, I don't know that he'd need to have overly big numbers to affect who wins, assuming he pulls noticeably more from one side than the other, especially in this current era where voting D or R tends to require holding your nose and reluctantly voting for the less shitty choice.

CenterBHSFan

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 3:43 PM

I think Kennedy will pull equally between

- the far left who are just absolutely ravaging the Harris/Walz ticket (I mean they loath this ticket)

- the average Republican who doesn't really know what populism is and won't look up anything on their own (exactly how some people are here)

I wonder if he will draw Ross Perot levels of votes, it will be interesting to watch and see.

I also hope that, with half of the states keeping their Covid procedures, that the whole vote counting process goes much faster than they did last time. Because when important electoral states take so long to come to a final count after a huge vote dump occurs, it's a foregone conclusion that people are going to be suspicious. 

I personally see no good reason to allow that to happen again, especially with the option of early voting. Also, we need to have a national discussion about ballot harvesting imo. It seems to be the current consensus that as long as the Dems have a well oiled machine for this, if the Republicans ever catch on and gain the upper hand with it, the cries of foul will just drag on only from the other side. So it makes sense to me to figure this out before we reach that stage. 

Ironman92

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 4:17 PM

I’m on board with the tallying of votes. There is no reason to hit bed after midnight and having no clue,

If one side or the other is leading all night and then makes a huge turnaround over night…..everyone should be skeptical.

Laley23

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 5:08 PM
posted by Ironman92

I’m on board with the tallying of votes. There is no reason to hit bed after midnight and having no clue,

If one side or the other is leading all night and then makes a huge turnaround over night…..everyone should be skeptical.

Republicans will always be way "ahead". Polls close sooner in the country and the amount of people voting is 1/100th of cities. To say someone is "ahead" in an election is just dumb. No one is ahead. They either win or lose. This isn't a sport.

iclfan2

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 5:09 PM

Hilarious that the media has nothing to say about Kamala just not doing any sort of press whatsoever. “Democracy dies in darkness”. Biden still geriatric and everyone pretending all is well. 

And Walz at best exaggerated his rank and his action while in the national guard. Strange guy who loves China. 

CenterBHSFan

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 5:16 PM
posted by Laley23

Republicans will always be way "ahead". Polls close sooner in the country and the amount of people voting is 1/100th of cities. To say someone is "ahead" in an election is just dumb. No one is ahead. They either win or lose. This isn't a sport.

Well, when states are called after two counties are counted and have been for a long time the Covid procedure mucks things up. I totally understand what Iron meant. 

CenterBHSFan

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 5:20 PM

Speaking of Walz lol

I think the Republicans should just cede the creation of attack ads to the far left, because they aren't giving Walz a chance to catch his breath. Match made in hell lol

Anyway, now the left is attacking him for being pro censorship:

Ironman92

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 5:34 PM
posted by Laley23

Republicans will always be way "ahead". Polls close sooner in the country and the amount of people voting is 1/100th of cities. To say someone is "ahead" in an election is just dumb. No one is ahead. They either win or lose. This isn't a sport.

Even locally it’s been an issue. My grandpa ran in several elections and my dad did one as well, my wife worked with an elected judge and my buddy for mayor and commissioner…..never an issue getting numbers in until last couple elections and now no one knows stuff until the morning.


In the nationwide elections (president) what makes it slower than it used to be? Seemed like 10,000 73 year old women named Florence got everything done back in the 80’s and 90’s


sportchampps

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 6:06 PM

Walz and Minnesota also had a hotline you could snitch on your neighbors during Covid if they weren’t practicing social distancing. Hes a goof. 

CenterBHSFan

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 6:35 PM

I kinda feel sorry for Walz at the end of the day. While I don't agree with his politics, he does seem like somebody you could get along with really well in a personal level. 

But attacks from the right:

- he's got himself aligned with a presidential candidate who wants to use govt force to confiscate guns 

- the whole stolen valor thing

And attacks from the left:

- he's a genocidal maniac for supporting Israel (one must be pro Palestine to be a true socialist)

- he's pro censorship 

So, he's been given such a narrow path to move that he might as well just stand still and be silent. I think the only people who will be supportive of him are the ones that rely on squishy feelings and nostalgia for establishment Dems.

Automatik

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 7:23 PM

The stolen valor thing is another dumbass hot take from the GOP. The flailing seems to be a daily occurrence now. 

Both he and Vance were deployed. Vance to a warzone, Walz for NATO mission. The end.

iclfan2

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 7:29 PM
posted by Automatik

The stolen valor thing is another dumbass hot take from the GOP. The flailing seems to be a daily occurrence now. 

Both he and Vance were deployed. Vance to a warzone, Walz for NATO mission. The end.

Derp. He has consistently lied about the rank her retired at, and also played loose with the word deployment and veteran of a war. He also explicitly said something about banning weapons of war like he used in war… he was never in war. I’m not a vet so I’m not gonna call anything stolen valor, but he’s a liar at the very least. Nice try though. 

They also knew about these issues for years. This isn’t a hot take from the GOP. And veterans are mad about it, regardless of him quitting before deploying which hasn’t even been brought up yet. Stop being a sheep.

Automatik

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 7:55 PM

So it comes down to how close to actual combat then? 

Twitter got you shook again and I’m the sheep? 🤣

iclfan2

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 7:57 PM
posted by Automatik

So it comes down to how close to actual war then? 

Twitter got you shook again and I’m the sheep? 🤣

Can you comprehend English? He was never in war, yet said he was. Italy isn’t war. This is very simple. Like I said, he has also lied about his rank repeatedly. 


Automatik

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 8:04 PM

Politicians stretching the truth and bullshitting for the masses. Ya don’t say? 

CenterBHSFan

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Fri, Aug 9, 2024 9:32 PM

Well, I don't like the fact that he's pro censorship via disinformation. Especially when the Dems/media were calling everybody a Russian Asset or Putin Puppet. They even called other Dems those names, it was crazy! 

So yeah, wanting govt to protect the people from disinformation... when the govt/media are the biggest perpetrators of disinformation is a surreal notion.

Laley23

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Sat, Aug 10, 2024 12:25 AM

He hasn’t lied about his rank. He didn’t skip going to combat. 

Those 2 are easily found simply by listening to the Minnesota National Guard. 

He was told they might deploy in the next 2 yrs — a month or so after he had already filed for retirement and planned a run for Congress. There is no evidence to suggest had they been deployed prior he would have skipped. But he was already in thick of Congress race and had been granted his retirement when they got the call.

You might not like the fact he is referring to a title he achieved and held for only half a year before retirement — but it is not a lie; he did achieve it. 


…this is what I was talking about before. Just attacking people for no reason because “other side”. Call him out on his policies if you don’t like them, but stop being so caught up and petty over a guy who put in 24 yrs and wanted to retire from it. 

Laley23

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Sat, Aug 10, 2024 12:28 AM

He also doesn’t want to put tampons in boys bathrooms. Just reading the damn bill/law would’ve told all of us that. 

The “boys” room it’s in is unisex. He did mandate the gym mens room have it — which, I don’t see an issue, but can get behind an argument against it if someone has a compelling reason — because the visiting teams use the opposite sex locker room. 

CenterBHSFan

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Sat, Aug 10, 2024 2:58 AM

The nickname given to him is Timpon lol