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ptown_trojans_1

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 10:03 AM
posted by iclfan2

His main challenge is probably being a woke commie. But sure. 

In a serious note, with colleges going back soon, are the Hamas supporters going to go back to their trash (tbd if that affects anyone’s voting opinion).

Lol ok. Commie is a strong word. 

Good question on the protesters. 

ptown_trojans_1

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 11:01 AM

Doesn't matter in the end, but it is cool that Waltz was a high school teacher and football coach.

CenterBHSFan

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 11:11 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Lol. Or, Shapiro is only in his 2nd year of being a governor and while good on the sound bite, may need a little more time. 


Do you really think that matters? I don't because, who:

- spent about 2yrs as a senator

- didn't vote for the majority of that time 

- when they did vote it was a "present" vote 

- very little to no name recognition at the time


Heretic

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 11:55 AM

posted by CenterBHSFan

Do you really think that matters? I don't because, who:

- spent about 2yrs as a senator

- didn't vote for the majority of that time 

- when they did vote it was a "present" vote 

- very little to no name recognition at the time


But isn't the usual goal when making a VP pick to get someone who shores up real or perceived weak spots in the presidential candidate?

With Obama, you had the far more experienced Biden. A big part of why Vance is considered by many to be a bad pick is because he's just a younger mini-me to Trump; while his first VP pick was a more traditional midwest religious guy who was safer and more establishment. With Walz, you have a guy with more real experience and also checks the "military" box due to being in the National Guard, which could be a positive since it took Vance about .5 seconds to play that card when the left came after him.

CenterBHSFan

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 1:33 PM
posted by Heretic

But isn't the usual goal when making a VP pick to get someone who shores up real or perceived weak spots in the presidential candidate?

With Obama, you had the far more experienced Biden. A big part of why Vance is considered by many to be a bad pick is because he's just a younger mini-me to Trump; while his first VP pick was a more traditional midwest religious guy who was safer and more establishment. With Walz, you have a guy with more real experience and also checks the "military" box due to being in the National Guard, which could be a positive since it took Vance about .5 seconds to play that card when the left came after him.

Fair enough points. But when we are at a time when we are excited to have ANY candidate that's under 90 years old; and then bring up the topic of experience (in this case 2 years), I stand by what I said. Two years only of experience isn't a big deal anymore.

Now, if we are looking at things like life experience and/or likeability, that's something that we can hold up and compare.

Vance is already under attack from the dems because of his crazy cat lady comments.

With Walz we shall see if he receives *equitable amounts of hysterics from the dems.



* since the Dems love to preach this idea, I think the word is appropriate 

QuakerOats

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 4:14 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Lol ok. Commie is a strong word. 

Good question on the protesters. 


Well she is a low-level Communist functionary, as someone recently stated, and he is at least as bad. 

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ptown_trojans_1

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 4:23 PM
posted by QuakerOats


Well she is a low-level Communist functionary, as someone recently stated, and he is at least as bad. 

I don't think you know what a communist is. 


ptown_trojans_1

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 4:25 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Fair enough points. But when we are at a time when we are excited to have ANY candidate that's under 90 years old; and then bring up the topic of experience (in this case 2 years), I stand by what I said. Two years only of experience isn't a big deal anymore.

Now, if we are looking at things like life experience and/or likeability, that's something that we can hold up and compare.

Vance is already under attack from the dems because of his crazy cat lady comments.

With Walz we shall see if he receives *equitable amounts of hysterics from the dems.



* since the Dems love to preach this idea, I think the word is appropriate 

Seems like it is the experience play and seems like him and Kamala just got along better. 

Ironman92

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 4:49 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Doesn't matter in the end, but it is cool that Waltz was a high school teacher and football coach.

Did he call predictable calls on 1st down? If so I need to go republican or independent 


Heretic

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 5:40 PM
posted by Ironman92

Did he call predictable calls on 1st down? If so I need to go republican or ind


He was the Matt Canada of HS football!

geeblock

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 7:57 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Fair enough points. But when we are at a time when we are excited to have ANY candidate that's under 90 years old; and then bring up the topic of experience (in this case 2 years), I stand by what I said. Two years only of experience isn't a big deal anymore.

Now, if we are looking at things like life experience and/or likeability, that's something that we can hold up and compare.

Vance is already under attack from the dems because of his crazy cat lady comments.

With Walz we shall see if he receives *equitable amounts of hysterics from the dems.



* since the Dems love to preach this idea, I think the word is appropriate 

You really need to evaluate when the word equitable is scary lol 


Automatik

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 9:03 PM

As expected. The usuals are now experts on Walz and his deficiencies due to their quick research on Truth Social and www.ultramaga.com. 🤣



CenterBHSFan

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 9:11 PM
posted by Ironman92

Did he call predictable calls on 1st down? If so I need to go republican or independent 


I laughed. Out loud. At work!

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iclfan2

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Tue, Aug 6, 2024 9:45 PM
posted by Automatik

As expected. The usuals are now experts on Walz and his deficiencies due to their quick research on Truth Social and www.ultramaga.com. 🤣

Yea dude, Twitter exists. 

QuakerOats

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Wed, Aug 7, 2024 10:01 AM
posted by Automatik

As expected. The usuals are now experts on Walz and his deficiencies due to their quick research on Truth Social and www.ultramaga.com. 🤣




Appreciate the heads up

CenterBHSFan

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Wed, Aug 7, 2024 11:30 AM

Well, the Republicans are really into the process of digging through the dirt now. Blasting Waltz for everything from an old DUI to stolen valor to not doing enough to curb the destructive riots. 

Walz for his part is attacking Vance about, I guess, having no experience small town life. 


iclfan2

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Wed, Aug 7, 2024 12:20 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Well, the Republicans are really into the process of digging through the dirt now. Blasting Waltz for everything from an old DUI to stolen valor to not doing enough to curb the destructive riots. 

Walz for his part is attacking Vance about, I guess, having no experience small town life. 


Don’t forget he made Minn a “trans refuge” state for kids, going as far as having child custody implications. Signing a bill to put tampons in boys restrooms. Creating a snitch line during Covid so neighbors could turn in other neighbors for violating arbitrary rules. And supporting sanctuary cities.

All super normal Midwest values. That damn right wing propoganda!

But hey, he gave free lunches to school kids. 


CenterBHSFan

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Wed, Aug 7, 2024 12:36 PM
posted by iclfan2

Don’t forget he made Minn a “trans refuge” state for kids, going as far as having child custody implications. Signing a bill to put tampons in boys restrooms. Creating a snitch line during Covid so neighbors could turn in other neighbors for violating arbitrary rules. And supporting sanctuary cities.

All super normal Midwest values. That damn right wing propoganda!

But hey, he gave free lunches to school kids. 


I looked at his transing bill, briefly. I really just quickly scanned it and didn't really see anything that stuck out in that first fast perusal. I do plan on looking at that more in the next few days, though.

I didn't know about the Covid policy, though and will have to look into that, too. 

Sanctuary cities have already been proven to be a hot steaming pile, nothing I can add to.


CenterBHSFan

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Wed, Aug 7, 2024 12:56 PM

Well I just looked into the Covid thing. Many, many articles citing and quoting that the hotline did in fact exist. Fuck.

From Reason magazine:


Ironman92

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Wed, Aug 7, 2024 2:42 PM

My FB going in hard

CenterBHSFan

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Wed, Aug 7, 2024 4:33 PM

There's nothing wrong with being any of those things your FB listed. But I think those people are being disingenuous to whatever level. Perhaps because they are truly ignorant, maybe because for them - that list is enough, could be that they are blind in one eye. 

But they better take a nerve pill now, before it's too late, because they will see all kinds of shit they don't want to see.

Heretic

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Wed, Aug 7, 2024 4:43 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

There's nothing wrong with being any of those things your FB listed. But I think those people are being disingenuous to whatever level. Perhaps because they are truly ignorant, maybe because for them - that list is enough, could be that they are blind in one eye. 

But they better take a nerve pill now, before it's too late, because they will see all kinds of shit they don't want to see.

I mean, if MAGA fans can be on their eighth year and counting of ignoring every single flaw Trump has while praising him as a god among men, I don't necessarily think people are gonna have to hit the medicine cabinet to survive the next few months concerning whatever comes out about Walz.

Ironman92

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Wed, Aug 7, 2024 4:51 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

There's nothing wrong with being any of those things your FB listed. But I think those people are being disingenuous to whatever level. Perhaps because they are truly ignorant, maybe because for them - that list is enough, could be that they are blind in one eye. 

But they better take a nerve pill now, before it's too late, because they will see all kinds of shit they don't want to see.

No they are intelligent people but far left and just never stop. This one is just taking the good and throwing it at Trump lovers


CenterBHSFan

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Wed, Aug 7, 2024 5:32 PM
posted by Heretic

I mean, if MAGA fans can be on their eighth year and counting of ignoring every single flaw Trump has while praising him as a god among men, I don't necessarily think people are gonna have to hit the medicine cabinet to survive the next few months concerning whatever comes out about Walz.

I don't think the Trump voters ignore anything, but rather embrace his flaws, make memes about them and laugh at the media consternation. 

What I was talking to was the people who are looking through the rose colored glasses at Walz right now. They will be pissed in a minute.