College Basketball Thread

I hate Duke.  I hate Cameron.  I hate coach K.  I hate Jay Bias.  

But man I love to watch Zion play.  

posted by superman

I hate Duke.  I hate Cameron.  I hate coach K.  I hate Jay Bias.  

 

But man I love to watch Zion play.  

He's fun. If the Cavs got the #1 pick and had to choose between him and Barrett I'd just worry that Zion's athleticism wouldn't be so advantageous at the next level. 

How is Zion in isolation? If he isn’t good, he won’t help Cavs (which could be good for another tank year). Cavs have nobody to score, and Zion won’t fix that if he is scoring mostly off the ball.

I’m intrigued by Ja Moran’s more and more every day.

posted by superman

I hate Duke.  I hate Cameron.  I hate coach K.  I hate Jay Bias.  

 

But man I love to watch Zion play.  

I agree. He's an athlete who is so special and fun to watch that it's actually possible to ignore how he's a fucking Dukie. Or at least not hold it against him that much. Seems like every single game, he's providing highlights of the "HOLY SHIT DID I JUST SEE THAT!!??!" variety.

Give me Barrett at the NBA level over Zio

posted by Laley23

How is Zion in isolation? If he isn’t good, he won’t help Cavs (which could be good for another tank year). Cavs have nobody to score, and Zion won’t fix that if he is scoring mostly off the ball.

I’m intrigued by Ja Moran’s more and more every day.

way better than I ever imagined

posted by friendfromlowry

He's fun. If the Cavs got the #1 pick and had to choose between him and Barrett I'd just worry that Zion's athleticism wouldn't be so advantageous at the next level. 

Scary but....he’s 18 until July and I think his athleticism increases some.

He’s my #1 and I love Barrett’s game. Barrett  will be an all-star by his 3rd year....but I do t think GM’s that pass on Zion will keep their jobs

And Barrett is 18 until June

Holy shit those two could easily be high school senior. Unbelievable

You guys are nuts......Zion is easily the first pick.  He is a easily a 10 rebound a game guy and a nightmare in the post for some guard to match up with.

Barrett is one of the best finishers I've ever seen at the college level.  He is Kyrie like in his ability to score the ball around the hoop.  I think the best thing that could happen to a GM is to get the number 2 pick and take Barrett.  

posted by Spock

You guys are nuts......Zion is easily the first pick.  He is a easily a 10 rebound a game guy and a nightmare in the post for some guard to match up with.

10 rebounds a game, wow!

posted by SportsAndLady

10 rebounds a game, wow!

He and about 20 other guys in the NBA, including someone already on the Cavs. 

The Cavs should take the best player available because, well, they suck—and the BPA will be better than anyone they have now...anyone.

I’ve thought this way during non conference play, but why does everyone think the B1G will get 10 teams in. Half this league fucking sucks. Absolute trash. 2 great teams. 1 good team and then questions to bad to garbage.

posted by Laley23

I’ve thought this way during non conference play, but why does everyone think the B1G will get 10 teams in. Half this league fucking sucks. Absolute trash. 2 great teams. 1 good team and then questions to bad to garbage.

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posted by Laley23

I’ve thought this way during non conference play, but why does everyone think the B1G will get 10 teams in. Half this league fucking sucks. Absolute trash. 2 great teams. 1 good team and then questions to bad to garbage.

It'll logically wind up at 7-8, more likely. The "10" talk, regardless of how seriously the "I pick the tourney 2 months early" dipshits on TV could only realistically have been a best case scenario where none of the top 10 lose to a bottom 4 team and 6-7 of those teams are all between 12-8 and 8-12 in conference play to go along with how most of those teams, with the exceptions of Purdue and Wisky, only had 1-2 non-conference losses.

As for the rest of this, where most of the conference is trash other than three teams, that sounds like the sort of over-reaction one has when their team has lost 5 straight or so. By those standards, every conference in the country has 3-4 good teams and nothing but trash since the vast majority of teams out there either have an inexplicable loss or a loss to a good team that was a shocking blowout instead of a close game.

No, I’m confident in the amount I’ve seen that the bottom teams are garbage (Rutgers/Illinois/PSU). The bottom middle teams are bad (OSU/IU/NW). And the upper middle all have a ton of questions. Wisconsin, Iowa and Purdue are the upper middle right now. What’s those teams best win OOC? Oregon? Xavier? Coupled with Wisconsin and Purdue having awful loses on the resume. 

Nebraska and Minnesota I’m not sure on. They could be solid, but also can look bad any given night. I expect Nebraska to finish top 5 though, maybe higher. I like there core.

Main thing I looked at is that by my count (ie: good chance I screwed up the numbers at some point), the conference is 30-26 against power conference foes (Big East, SEC, ACC, Big 12, Pac-12). I just used those conferences to keep it simple, even though it takes away some games against teams superior to a lot of power conference teams (Illinois' loss to Gonzaga and OSU's win over Cincinnati). Most of the team had winning records against big-conference foes, but Purdue (0-4) and Illinois (0-5) really dragged down the overall performance (30-17 without them).

And a lot of the teams currently in the middle/lower parts of the pack were the teams that carried the conference to those non-conference wins. Hell, I think it was PSU who beat Va Tech, who has been a top 10 team for a while this season. To me, where you're saying the conference is mainly trash, I see a league with a couple great teams and a lot of decent-to-good ones, where they're able to beat most teams on a given day, but don't have consistent excellence to put those long streaks together. To where the conference will have 5-6 teams in the 6-11 seed range in March where they're in the "win one, maybe two" expectation zone.

I bet Huggy Bear is happy 😂😂😂