Browns season 2021

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Nov 14, 2021 4:50 PM
posted by iclfan2

What an embarrassment. Fire Joe Woods, been saying it for weeks. 0 adjustments made. And offense… woof

The whole staff got outcoached (including Stefanski) by the Hoodie and McDaniels. They ran that damn reverse 3x's and got 10+ yards each attempt. JFC, you'd think they'd catch on at some point.

If they get behind two scores, it's over. That's a combination of Stefanski's super conservative offense and Baker/WR's not getting it done. I'd place it more on Stefanski though. This offense is built to get leads, not come back.

BRF Senior Member
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Sun, Nov 14, 2021 4:56 PM
posted by BR1986FB


Just an embarrassing day but, surprisingly, if they can TCB in the division they can still get in.

I just don’t see that happening. 
BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Nov 14, 2021 5:05 PM
posted by BRF
I just don’t see that happening. 

TBH, what I've seen the last two weeks between the Rats, Bengals, Steelers and Browns, it's like "hot potato." Doesn't look like any of them want it.

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Nov 14, 2021 6:03 PM
posted by BR1986FB

TBH, what I've seen the last two weeks between the Rats, Bengals, Steelers and Browns, it's like "hot potato." Doesn't look like any of them want it.

What it looks like to me, is that the NFL hasn't decided what its story lines are so far.

PIT wins today going away if Ben doesn't get Covid.  Not trying to derail the thread - but the jagoff Mason Rudolph did enough to win today.

To be honest, I still can't tell you if the refs were trying to help PIT or DET.  Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but it LOOKED like you're reffing the game with an eye on other games and aren't sure if PIT should win or lose.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Nov 14, 2021 8:26 PM

And as far as Joe Woods' 'defense' goes, in giving up 40+ points they surrendered drives of 99, 95, 92 & 89 yards. Has to be some kind of record.

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Nov 14, 2021 9:54 PM
posted by BR1986FB

And as far as Joe Woods' 'defense' goes, in giving up 40+ points they surrendered drives of 99, 95, 92 & 89 yards. Has to be some kind of record.

You have to fire him.


Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Nov 14, 2021 9:58 PM

I didn’t watch much of this game but when it was 24-7 and Pats had the ball….it really looked like the Browns defense didn’t even care on that drive. For that one drive it was an odd look…..I can’t speak of the rest of the game but I’ve watched a good portion of the Browns defensive snaps this year and have never thought that in any way.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Nov 15, 2021 7:26 AM
posted by Ironman92

I didn’t watch much of this game but when it was 24-7 and Pats had the ball….it really looked like the Browns defense didn’t even care on that drive. For that one drive it was an odd look…..I can’t speak of the rest of the game but I’ve watched a good portion of the Browns defensive snaps this year and have never thought that in any way.

Joe Woods said that the Patriots recognized some weaknesses that the Browns haven't fixed (nor have interest in fixing). That right there says "fire me." Also looking like Myles is more worried about padding his stats and getting the sack record than anything else. Newsome, who has been playing at an All-Pro level, looked bad yesterday. Defense was just horrible.


I've come to the realization that the Browns are going to have to explore another possible option at QB if they want to move forward. Baker was bad yesterday. Granted, I didn't see many open receivers but in a blowout like that you need to put up some respectable stats when the opposition has a huge lead. 73 yards passing isn't doing it. A lot of it falls on Stefanski for going into "OMG, the Patriots have a 7 point lead....we're in a SHOOTOUT !!!" mode and completely abandoning the run after the first drive but Baker has to be better.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Mon, Nov 15, 2021 11:04 AM
posted by Ironman92

I didn’t watch much of this game but when it was 24-7 and Pats had the ball….it really looked like the Browns defense didn’t even care on that drive. For that one drive it was an odd look…..I can’t speak of the rest of the game but I’ve watched a good portion of the Browns defensive snaps this year and have never thought that in any way.


Zero fire from the players and the coaches; total embarrassment. 


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Nov 15, 2021 11:30 AM
posted by QuakerOats


Zero fire from the players and the coaches; total embarrassment. 


And players kind of threw coaches under the bus with comments from Bitonio, Myles and John Johnson after the game. Locker room could implode if something doesn't change.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Nov 19, 2021 9:42 AM

Chubb & Felton cleared to play Sunday

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Nov 19, 2021 12:14 PM
posted by BR1986FB

TBH, what I've seen the last two weeks between the Rats, Bengals, Steelers and Browns, it's like "hot potato." Doesn't look like any of them want it.

The combination of Baltimore losing a lot of RBs and needing Lamar to do everything, Pittsburgh having COVID/injury issues, Cleveland having COVID/injury issues as well as chemistry problems and Cincinnati being firmly in the "improved; not there yet" camp means this division could wind up being the NFC East for the 2021 year -- four teams; no one's good.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Nov 21, 2021 11:33 AM

Browns have not fared well against the Lions. Last time the Browns beat them in a regular season game was 2001, a game in which former Brown, Ty Detmer, threw 7 interceptions. Would be nice to see a similar defensive performance today. In fact, the Lions lead the all-time series 19-5, including 4 playoff matchups.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
9,465 posts 100 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Nov 21, 2021 1:19 PM

Need a new punter

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sun, Nov 21, 2021 1:25 PM

Baker…. Awful start of a must win game vs a trash opponent. Yay

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Nov 21, 2021 2:12 PM

Refs screwed Browns a yard on a spot on 2nd down and it forced them in a 3rd and 3 when it looked closer to 3rd and 1…..then Detroit bails them out on an iffy call.


I just feel the refs aren’t letting players play football and in the time being aren’t doing a good job of their own officiating tasks. Most every game.

BRF Senior Member
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Sun, Nov 21, 2021 3:02 PM
posted by BR1986FB

In fact, the Lions lead the all-time series 19-5, including 4 playoff matchups.

I was really surprised that there have been that few games.  Did a little research and found that the Lions won the first 8 games, with the Browns getting their first win in 1964. 
BRF Senior Member
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Sun, Nov 21, 2021 3:02 PM

As for this game, I see we are keeping the Lions in it. 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Nov 21, 2021 3:07 PM

Lions began in Portsmouth didn’t they? You know like 90 years ago

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 168 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Nov 21, 2021 3:16 PM

Well Swift made it a game again

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