Browns Preseason 2019

kizer permanente Senior Member
1,309 posts 18 reps Joined Aug 2017
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 6:06 AM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Agreed he was a bum DC and it wasn't close.

 

This is so stupid:

https://twitter.com/Rotoworld_FB/status/1102753330952990720

 

There seems to be a lot of Duke trade smoke, starting to think there is fire.

I hope not. So much talent but we don't seem to care to use him.

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 126 reps Joined Feb 2010
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 8:01 AM

Definitely want D-Line at 17. Would like an add in FA too. Also a LB.

Not overly concerned if they move Duke. They don't seem to know how to use him.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 8:04 AM

They started to use Duke a little better after Hue and Haley were fired.  They can't just bank on Hunt, but if they are given an offer they can't refuse for Duke...

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 126 reps Joined Feb 2010
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 8:25 AM
posted by like_that

They can't just bank on Hunt, but if they are given an offer they can't refuse for Duke...

This is my thing. Worst case, you can get a cheaper/rookie version of Duke late in the draft to buy time for Hunt to come back. If he doesn't you have your backup.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
39,070 posts 24 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 9:24 AM

Wouldn’t bother me if we lose Duke. Chubb and Hunt should be fine. 

kizer permanente Senior Member
1,309 posts 18 reps Joined Aug 2017
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 12:17 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Wouldn’t bother me if we lose Duke. Chubb and Hunt should be fine. 

Yeah it wouldn't kill us. But you hate losing guys with his talent. He should be used a lot more than we do. 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
39,070 posts 24 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 12:27 PM
posted by kizer permanente

Yeah it wouldn't kill us. But you hate losing guys with his talent. He should be used a lot more than we do. 

Talent doesn’t necessarily equate to production. We’ve been hearing “duke is so talented!” For years. And he’s never really produced all that much. Yes, the coaching staff takes some of that blame. But, still, it’s a production league and I won’t QQ losing someone who’s never really produced. Especially if we can get draft Capital in return. 

kizer permanente Senior Member
1,309 posts 18 reps Joined Aug 2017
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 2:12 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Talent doesn’t necessarily equate to production. We’ve been hearing “duke is so talented!” For years. And he’s never really produced all that much. Yes, the coaching staff takes some of that blame. But, still, it’s a production league and I won’t QQ losing someone who’s never really produced. Especially if we can get draft Capital in return. 

I would say coaching staff takes about 99% of the blame. 

24,621 posts 244 reps Joined May 2010
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 4:40 PM
posted by kizer permanente

I would say coaching staff takes about 99% of the blame. 

On this I agree with you.

 

Under Hue/Hailey they couldn't figure out that Hyde was pulling a tractor tailor with every carry or that TT was a fucking bum with Baker sitting right there. Duke not getting used for the last 8 games is a bit of a scratcher, but beyond that it's 100% hue and hailey.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 4:53 PM
posted by kizer permanente

I would say coaching staff takes about 99% of the blame. 

I wouldn't take it that far.  There are PLENTY of players that Browns fans have completely overvalued.  I am not saying Duke is that guy, but I have seen "player x is so talented" for so many players for the Browns, who ended up not doing shit regardless of coaching.

kizer permanente Senior Member
1,309 posts 18 reps Joined Aug 2017
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 6:22 PM
posted by like_that

I wouldn't take it that far.  There are PLENTY of players that Browns fans have completely overvalued.  I am not saying Duke is that guy, but I have seen "player x is so talented" for so many players for the Browns, who ended up not doing shit regardless of coaching.

Agreed, but Duke is extremely efficient even with his limited touches. It just doesn’t make sense to me. He consistently rates top 10 in his position and he gets next to nothing for touches. 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
39,070 posts 24 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 6:51 PM
posted by kizer permanente

Agreed, but Duke is extremely efficient even with his limited touches. It just doesn’t make sense to me. He consistently rates top 10 in his position and he gets next to nothing for touches. 

Link to top 10 at his position? What is that even based off of he gets like 3 touches 10 yards a game lol

kizer permanente Senior Member
1,309 posts 18 reps Joined Aug 2017
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 7:03 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Link to top 10 at his position? What is that even based off of he gets like 3 touches 10 yards a game lol

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-browns-running-back-duke-johnson-jr-cant-find-the-field-despite-high-end-efficiency

wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
29,653 posts 76 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 7:38 PM

Seeing some rumors that the Browns are poised to make a big move in free agency. I’ve seen OBJ and Brown’s names. 

wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
29,653 posts 76 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 8:13 PM
posted by wildcats20

Seeing some rumors that the Browns are poised to make a big move in free agency. I’ve seen OBJ and Brown’s names. 

Of course, now I can’t find those 2 tweets I saw. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
9,465 posts 100 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 8:18 PM
posted by wildcats20

Of course, now I can’t find those 2 tweets I saw. 

Lotta smoke on Twitter by players and some media, but other than a couple mentioned obj I haven’t seen much else of the specific rumor 

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 126 reps Joined Feb 2010
Tue, Mar 5, 2019 8:27 PM
posted by like_that

I wouldn't take it that far.  There are PLENTY of players that Browns fans have completely overvalued.  I am not saying Duke is that guy, but I have seen "player x is so talented" for so many players for the Browns, who ended up not doing shit regardless of coaching.

Agreed. Jerome Harrison & Peyton Hillis to name a few. Duke is solid but the world's not going to end if they move on from him.

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 126 reps Joined Feb 2010
Wed, Mar 6, 2019 8:15 AM

Browns players losing their minds on Twitter...a lot of rumors (OBJ, Von Miller, Trey Flowers & CJ Mosley) flying around.

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Baker-Mayfield-dinner-Von-Miller-Odell-Beckham-Jr-128416815/

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Wed, Mar 6, 2019 8:39 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Browns players losing their minds on Twitter...a lot of rumors (OBJ, Von Miller, Trey Flowers & CJ Mosley) flying around.

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Baker-Mayfield-dinner-Von-Miller-Odell-Beckham-Jr-128416815/

Most of these would take a trade.  I pass on anything where we have to give up assets.  We finally have a GM with a good track record of drafting.  Let's not try and take shortcuts.  There is also a shit ton of cap room.  I don't see a reason to be trading away assets unless it is a pure trade rape. 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
39,070 posts 24 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Mar 6, 2019 9:32 AM

They have so much cap room, I want Dorsey to go out and spend it but spend it smart. Like how the rams went and got some good FAs but not on long term crippling deals. 

We have 2-3 more years before we have to pay Myles/Baker, might as well spend some money to add talent around them. Of course, the main focus should be on the draft, but going into competing seasons with massive amounts of cap space? Idk about that

Login

Register

Already have an account? Login