LOCKED: Browns BS Drama Continued...

Seems like Hue loves the Bengals guys he had success with. Doesn't mean it's a good idea now, though. 

Anytime you can hire a guy that was fired after 2 games for failing to score a single point, you gotta do it.

posted by friendfromlowry

Seems like Hue loves the Bengals guys he had success with. Doesn't mean it's a good idea now, though. 

I mentioned it earlier, and I'll call my shot now (not really a stretch or a major prediction), but if AJ McCarron hits the open market, he'll be the Browns starter in week 1.

Fuck Hue for even considering Zampese. Fuck Haslam for allowing this to happen.

https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/948578485085155329

And he's 1-31 as a HC. Shocking! /sarcasm

posted by Commander of Awesome

https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/948578485085155329

And he's 1-31 as a HC. Shocking! /sarcasm

That one guys comment about "this is why they need Hard Knocks....if Jimmy sees this, he'll fire him" is pretty much bull. Haslam is frequently at these practices so I'm sure he sees this crap. It's the blind leading the blind/dumb & dumber.

posted by BR1986FB

That one guys comment about "this is why they need Hard Knocks....if Jimmy sees this, he'll fire him" is pretty much bull. Haslam is frequently at these practices so I'm sure he sees this crap. It's the blind leading the blind/dumb & dumber.

I tihnk Hue is still here due to Jimmy's legal fees, and the fact that he's paying more than $30M to coaches/execs that dont work here anymore. Read on twitter that firing Hue would cost ol Jimmy $10M plus, plus he'd have to a give a fat new contract to a new coaching staff. Essentially ensuring that he'd be paying $50M for staff that no longer works here, plus a huge payout for a new staff. That coupled with FA, and the draft, roster bonuses  could easily push the bill to $200M of outgoing cash by May.  That's a bitter pill to swallow regardless, but factor in tight cash flow and less fans going to the game plus trying to get season ticket holders to shell out $$$ for a team that has won 4 games in last 3 seasons, well fuck.

posted by Commander of Awesome

I tihnk Hue is still here due to Jimmy's legal fees, and the fact that he's paying more than $30M to coaches/execs that dont work here anymore. Read on twitter that firing Hue would cost ol Jimmy $10M plus, plus he'd have to a give a fat new contract to a new coaching staff. Essentially ensuring that he'd be paying $50M for staff that no longer works here, plus a huge payout for a new staff. That coupled with FA, and the draft, roster bonuses  could easily push the bill to $200M of outgoing cash by May.  That's a bitter pill to swallow regardless, but factor in tight cash flow and less fans going to the game plus trying to get season ticket holders to shell out $$$ for a team that has won 4 games in last 3 seasons, well fuck.

I've seen some conspiracy theories that Haslam is intentionally sucking so there will be complete apathy and he'll have an excuse to move the team. Don't know that I buy into that but the front office, ownership & coaches sure don't seem to worried about winning.

posted by BR1986FB

I've seen some conspiracy theories that Haslam is intentionally sucking so there will be complete apathy and he'll have an excuse to move the team. Don't know that I buy into that but the front office, ownership & coaches sure don't seem to worried about winning.

I don't buy that at all.

posted by Commander of Awesome

https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/948578485085155329

And he's 1-31 as a HC. Shocking! /sarcasm

Lol just came out that the coaches will be Broncos and Texans. Browns must have not been asked back. Hilarious

posted by BR1986FB

I've seen some conspiracy theories that Haslam is intentionally sucking so there will be complete apathy and he'll have an excuse to move the team. Don't know that I buy into that but the front office, ownership & coaches sure don't seem to worried about winning.

So you read the script to major league?

posted by iclfan2

Lol just came out that the coaches will be Broncos and Texans. Browns must have not been asked back. Hilarious

lol they specifically targeted as a no due to how poor they handled the practices. LMAO and these fucking assclowns will be our coach next yr. SMH

This is by far the worst I've ever felt as a fan of the Browns about the organization. Dorsey and Green Bay guy, cool, everything else, disaster.

posted by iclfan2

This is by far the worst I've ever felt as a fan of the Browns about the organization. Dorsey and Green Bay guy, cool, everything else, disaster.

I agree. Though I really felt shitty under "Patty Schurmur", "Petty Pettine", and "Eric ManEGO".

Pat Schurmur was just a total fuck, constant 2 yd slants on 3rd and 8. Clueless. Least Hue will chuck it downfield.

Petty's defense was just abymal. DC was such a fuck head and he refused to move on from that idiot. Plus tag in shitty Farmer and Manziel/Gilbert pretty much sealed his fate.

Erica ManEGO - thought you could be devoid of talent and hardnose your ass to a win. Such a hard way to win. Stubborn as fuck as well and that fucking gift trade to the Jets....JFC.

With Hue -Yeah he's a fuckhead. And yes he abandons the run. But we also have Kizer who throws INTs all over the place (again sort of on Hue as well), but we have talent, young talent all over the place and a solid defense. If we get an OC in here that runs the ball, we stop turning the ball over at a 3 TO per game margin, get a rookie QB, and stop giving 15 yd cushions on def we can be a competitive 4-6 win team next season.

Those are all fixable issues here. Granted we're the browns so we'll fuck it up. But I'm more optimisitc about our roster than ever before outside of 2002/2007.

The funny part is that Schurmur is one of this offseason's hot candidates. He'll get another chance as a head coach and I bet he's successful this time.

posted by iclfan2

This is by far the worst I've ever felt as a fan of the Browns about the organization. Dorsey and Green Bay guy, cool, everything else, disaster.

Regardless of where they sit (draft picks, cap money, etc) I'm still not very optimistic. The pessimist in me says "we've seen this song and dance before." I won't believe it until I see it.

Does Dorsey look like he could be a good get? Sure, but there are always outside factors (HC has the owners ear, owner wants to get involved, etc, etc) so if there's a way they can screw this up, they'll find it.

Hue's likely going to want to bring in McCarron to be his guy. Will he convince the front office to pass on the top QB? Who knows but nothing will surprise me.

There’s literally two scenarios: we draft the  right QB at 1, and we are good for the next  10+ years. Or, we draft another bust at QB, and in 3 years we fire Dorsey and our coaches and start again. 

Get the right QB and Dorsey will fill the holes around him. Don’t, and we’ll continue to suck. 

posted by SportsAndLady

There’s literally two scenarios: we draft the  right QB at 1, and we are good for the next  10+ years. Or, we draft another bust at QB, and in 3 years we fire Dorsey and our coaches and start again. 

Get the right QB and Dorsey will fill the holes around him. Don’t, and we’ll continue to suck. 

But still have dipshit HC for a year, with a probable dipshit OC if Hue gets to pick. Future wise maybe I'm optimistic, but next year w Hue is another throw away year. He's fucking dumb, and nothing can change that.

posted by SportsAndLady

There’s literally two scenarios: we draft the  right QB at 1, and we are good for the next  10+ years. Or, we draft another bust at QB, and in 3 years we fire Dorsey and our coaches and start again. 

Get the right QB and Dorsey will fill the holes around him. Don’t, and we’ll continue to suck. 

Hope he has a crystal ball to pick the right one because pretty much every one of them have question marks. It will likely come down to Rosen and Darnold though. Don't want to hear any BS about Allen or Mayfield (MMQB already saying Dorsey "loves" Allen, etc). If he hitches his wagon to the latter two, he'll likely be gone.

Was having a discussion with my buddy earlier today about QBs that played well this season and the browns failed to get. Realized we were talking about 3 different guys and didn't realize it at first.

Carson Wentz

Jimmy G

Patrick Mahomes

SMFH

To illustrate S&L's point, get a QB and doresey keeps his job. Do some BS trade for Alex Smith/AJ McCarron and he'll be fired end of 2 seasons.