2020 Browns

posted by BR1986FB

Jason Garrett has tested positive for Covid. Kentucky Fried Freddie will be calling the plays for the Giants Sunday night and it's looking like Colt McCoy could be the starting QB.

Cleveland’s year

posted by Ironman92

Cleveland’s year

I'm not so sure of that. I'd feel a lot more confident had they beaten Baltimore. I just keep having flashbacks of 2007 and have seen scenarios where they could finish 11-5 and still lose out on tiebreakers. Highly unlikely but the beating the NY teams is a must.

posted by BR1986FB

I'm not so sure of that. I'd feel a lot more confident had they beaten Baltimore. I just keep having flashbacks of 2007 and have seen scenarios where they could finish 11-5 and still lose out on tiebreakers. Highly unlikely but the beating the NY teams is a must.

Oh I know...I see things that looks like the Cleveland misfortunes might be getting over the hump and then the kicker can’t make an extra point and things like that.

I’ve watched them 6-7x this season and one thing I’ve noticed...the coaching staff isn’t  doing blatantly dumb things.

They need to do big things while Chubb and Garrett are big time players

posted by Ironman92

I’ve watched them 6-7x this season and one thing I’ve noticed...the coaching staff is doing blatantly dumb things.

posted by Laley23
??? Like what?

Isn’t...sorry

posted by Ironman92

Oh I know...I see things that looks like the Cleveland misfortunes might be getting over the hump and then the kicker can’t make an extra point and things like that.

I’ve watched them 6-7x this season and one thing I’ve noticed...the coaching staff isn’t  doing blatantly dumb things.

They need to do big things while Chubb and Garrett are big time players

The only blatantly dumb thing that I can think of is the fake punt against the Ravens at the beginning of the first game. We basically gave them a touchdown, and it set the tone for the game.

posted by Ironman92

Isn’t...sorry

Gotcha. Yeah, every coach is going to have questionable play calls here and there, but he does the little things well. Manages clock, understands challenges etc. Along with having specific game plans for each team and for the most part executing them. I’ve been impressed.

Giants top corner, James Bradberry, has also been put on the Covid list and will miss this game. Hopefully, Baker will feast. 

He's 7 TD's away from tying Brian Sipe's franchise record for TD passes (30) in a season. Thirty TD passes is pretty sad for a franchise record. He (Baker) won't pass Sipe's yardage record which I think is 4132.

posted by BR1986FB

He's 7 TD's away from tying Brian Sipe's franchise record for TD passes (30) in a season. Thirty TD passes is pretty sad for a franchise record. He (Baker) won't pass Sipe's yardage record which I think is 4132.

When Gardens pointed out that Baker was the first to throw for 4 TD’s in a half, I was stunned that neither Sipe nor Kosar had ever done that at some point.  Thirty really is pretty sad for a franchise record. 

I gotta admit, I had a wtf moment when Ironman92 typed about blatantly bad decisions.  But before I even read his correction, I felt that he must have meant to type “isn’t”.  😎

posted by BRF

When Gardens pointed out that Baker was the first to throw for 4 TD’s in a half, I was stunned that neither Sipe nor Kosar had ever done that at some point.  Thirty really is pretty sad for a franchise record. 

I gotta admit, I had a wtf moment when Ironman92 typed about blatantly bad decisions.  But before I even read his correction, I felt that he must have meant to type “isn’t”.  😎

Still say Sipe was better than Kosar. Bernie has been overrated by a lot of Browns fans. If you look at his stats, he was an average to above average QB.

My earlier comment about losing out on a tiebreaker could happen after last night. Raiders lost Carr and are pretty much out of the playoffs and will have nothing to play for against Miami. If Miami somehow runs the table against NE, LV & Buffalo (who could be sitting people due to locking up a seed) the Browns could be in trouble if Indy also runs the table.

posted by BR1986FB

Still say Sipe was better than Kosar. Bernie has been overrated by a lot of Browns fans. If you look at his stats, he was an average to above average QB.

My earlier comment about losing out on a tiebreaker could happen after last night. Raiders lost Carr and are pretty much out of the playoffs and will have nothing to play for against Miami. If Miami somehow runs the table against NE, LV & Buffalo (who could be sitting people due to locking up a seed) the Browns could be in trouble if Indy also runs the table.

Nah...Browns are in

posted by Ironman92

Nah...Browns are in

Pulling your best "thavoice" I see. Dolphins could win out, Baltimore likely wins out and if Indy and Tenn (although they do play the Packers) win out, the Browns are out. All of the scenarios I mentioned aren't impossible.

Speaking of overrated QB's and their stats, my go to is Joe Namath. In his best season he threw for 4007 yards, 52% completions, 26 touchdowns and 28 interceptions.

Overall career, 27,000+ yards, 50% completions, 173 touchdowns, and 220 interceptions.

Won/Loss record as a starter 62-63 with 4 ties.

That super cool cat is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

posted by Gardens35

Speaking of overrated QB's and their stats, my go to is Joe Namath. In his best season he threw for 4007 yards, 52% completions, 26 touchdowns and 28 interceptions.

Overall career, 27,000+ yards, 50% completions, 173 touchdowns, and 220 interceptions.

Won/Loss record as a starter 62-63 with 4 ties.

That super cool cat is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Namath & Terry Bradshaw both had crappy stats. Their saving grace was their Super Bowl victories.

posted by BR1986FB

Pulling your best "thavoice" I see. Dolphins could win out, Baltimore likely wins out and if Indy and Tenn (although they do play the Packers) win out, the Browns are out. All of the scenarios I mentioned aren't impossible.

The Browns are in. They are quite good offensively with Chubb and all those teams aren’t running the table. Screw your bull crap comparison. I don’t care if the Browns make the playoffs.

posted by BR1986FB

Pulling your best "thavoice" I see. Dolphins could win out, Baltimore likely wins out and if Indy and Tenn (although they do play the Packers) win out, the Browns are out. All of the scenarios I mentioned aren't impossible.

Breowns won’t make the playoffs!

New York Media, and New Yorkers absolutely loved Broadway Joe! 

Two "pretty good" seasons including a Super Bowl guaranteed win, and BAM......Hall of Fame.

posted by Ironman92

The Browns are in. They are quite good offensively with Chubb and all those teams aren’t running the table. Screw your bull crap comparison. I don’t care if the Browns make the playoffs.

Oh, I know the Browns are a good team. In fact, right now they're better than Pittsburgh but until they (Browns) are in the playoffs, I'm not banking on anything. I think the Browns (maybe Bills) are the only team that can go toe to toe with KC, offensively, but they'd probably lose 76-75, in regulation, with that putrid defense.

posted by BR1986FB

Oh, I know the Browns are a good team. In fact, right now they're better than Pittsburgh but until they (Browns) are in the playoffs, I'm not banking on anything. I think the Browns (maybe Bills) are the only team that can go toe to toe with KC, offensively, but they'd probably lose 76-75, in regulation, with that putrid defense.

I understand and respect the skepticism but they are in. Agree they are better than Steelers. Give me back Dupree and Ben hitting 3 passes over 15 yards and I’ll disagree but Browns are better fit to win in the playoffs right now. Things can change in 3 weeks and hopefully does.

posted by Ironman92

I understand and respect the skepticism but they are in. Agree they are better than Steelers. Give me back Dupree and Ben hitting 3 passes over 15 yards and I’ll disagree but Browns are better fit to win in the playoffs right now. Things can change in 3 weeks and hopefully does.

I'm obviously not a doctor but I think he (Roethlisberger) either has a tired arm or that elbow hasn't fully recovered. He looks like a Big 12 QB with all of those short slants, bubble screens, etc. I honestly don't think he can make all of the throws he used to. As a couple of you Steeler fans have mentioned, they've become very one dimensional (can't run the ball) which doesn't bode well heading into the playoffs.

As far as the Browns go, I saw something where they said if certain teams win (Bills, Rams, Seahawks) they are in but the Titans were also on that list? Trying to figure that out because I think the Colts could leapfrog them if they win out and the Titans drop one.