The Russia/Ukraine situation

People voted for Biden thinking they would get the end of covid and student loan cancellation; instead they get WWIII and a crack pipe. 

Elections have consequences. 

posted by majorspark

Looks like they are fighting pretty hard.  I hope they give them hell.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10552157/Heroic-Ukrainian-marine-blows-bridge-hold-Russian-troops.html

Would be epic if they held them off. 

posted by QuakerOats

People voted for Biden thinking they would get the end of covid and student loan cancellation; instead they get WWIII and a crack pipe. 

Elections have consequences. 

People voted for Biden because he isn't Trump.

People voted for Trump because he isn't Clinton.

And people will not vote for trump because he isn’t Biden

And people will vote for someone who’s pro-Trump 

Don’t blame me, I voted for Cletus. 

posted by friendfromlowry

And people will vote for someone who’s pro-Trump 

I will,  cheaper energy, less taxes,  retirement growth.  Less government, stronger military.

Not sure why you would vote any other way

posted by Fletch

I will,  cheaper energy, less taxes,  retirement growth.  Less government, stronger military.

Not sure why you would vote any other way

You’re also a hack who always demonstrates the “when my guy does this it’s good but when the guy I don’t like does it then it’s bad.” 

posted by Fletch

I will,  cheaper energy, less taxes,  retirement growth.  Less government, stronger military.

Not sure why you would vote any other way

Good take on Ukraine.

posted by Fletch

Less government, stronger military.

posted by gut

A lot of this feels like propaganda, in that the West has decided they're going to make Putin look bad by pretending the invasion is going badly.

The stories of heroism are probably true, but it's been like two days and they're almost at the capital.  This is like Akron vs. OSU, and the announcers praising how Akron is hanging with them just 30 seconds into the game.

As far as propaganda goes the Russians are masters of it.  I see no videos of Russians taking any major population centers and parading down the streets with citizens cheering freed from their so called nazi government. They are getting the opposite.  

Russian forces invading from the north were already massed to attack the capital less than 90 miles away.

The Russians are holding back a bit and not going Grozny to avoid a worse look hoping the Ukrainian government capitulates to save themselves.  None of this is happening.  In the age of social media the Ukrainians are winning the propaganda war.  The Russians can take Ukraine but they now know they will have to unleash hell to do so.

posted by majorspark

As far as propaganda goes the Russians are masters of it.  I see no videos of Russians taking any major population centers and parading down the streets with citizens cheering freed from their so called nazi government. They are getting the opposite.  

Russian forces invading from the north were already massed to attack the capital less than 90 miles away.

The Russians are holding back a bit and not going Grozny to avoid a worse look hoping the Ukrainian government capitulates to save themselves.  None of this is happening.  In the age of social media the Ukrainians are winning the propaganda war.  The Russians can take Ukraine but they now know they will have to unleash hell to do so.

At this point,  Russia has to take the whole thing or it looks like a failure.  

I saw where the Russians were getting close to taking the airbase north of the capital.  Then out of nowhere the runways were bombed.

Wonder who had a hand in that?

Also either the Russians are half asses this or the Kraines have some serious outside help that nobody is talking about

https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/33369327/russian-tennis-star-andrey-rublev-writes-no-war-please-dubai-semifinal-win

Reports that Russian TV channels hacked to broadcast Ukrainian songs.  Awesome if true.

So they're taking down street signs so the Russian army won't know where it is or where it's going?

"rushan gps no wurk"

posted by gut

So they're taking down street signs so the Russian army won't know where it is or where it's going?

"rushan gps no wurk"

Assuming every military vehicle has GPS. 

Seems like Russian soldier on the ground are low in moral. Still early though, but is shocking how slow the Russian advances are. 

Either Russian anticipated little to no resistance and are caught off guard or they are that slow and really still a shell of a military from the 1990s. 

The new sanctions tonight with SWIFT are great. I also like how the world is turning on Russia. 

It is inspiring to see Ukraine stand up to the Russians. Hopefully, we can continue to support them and they can give them hell. The more painful it is, the more likely Russia pulls back. 

Russia will flub this up and right on cue,  our current government will have a victory dance like they helped win the rhis

I didn’t realize outside of call of duty how powerful a Molotov cocktail could be 

posted by Fletch

Russia will flub this up and right on cue,  our current government will have a victory dance like they helped win the rhis

What about the genius efficacies of Putin’s strategy?