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SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Apr 22, 2020 1:54 PM
posted by Laley23

Makes sense to me. Why do you think that isn’t the case. Most would go bankrupt without the bailout.

Airlines have been receiving government funding for a while now. The entire airline industry isn’t going to just go bye-bye for years. 

OSH Kosh B'Gosh
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Wed, Apr 22, 2020 2:11 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Lol what is your friend basing that on? It’s going to take 3 years for the airline industry to rebound to what/where? 

Well, it took me one quick Google search to find loads of information on it. It's beyond what I care to focus on, and really my depth of knowledge. I'll leave that up to those who are more knowledgeable than me in this stuff.

https://www.investors.com/news/american-airlines-stock-airline-stocks-normal-2023/

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Apr 22, 2020 2:24 PM
posted by OSH

Well, it took me one quick Google search to find loads of information on it. It's beyond what I care to focus on, and really my depth of knowledge. I'll leave that up to those who are more knowledgeable than me in this stuff.

https://www.investors.com/news/american-airlines-stock-airline-stocks-normal-2023/

Wasn’t really loads of information in there. Just that one airline CEO said it could 3 years to recover. 
To me that says he is indirectly asking for more bailout money..there’s nothing in there that says why it would take 3 years to recover, unless you believe airlines won’t be flying commercial flights for 2-3 more years?

OSH Kosh B'Gosh
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Wed, Apr 22, 2020 2:53 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Wasn’t really loads of information in there. Just that one airline CEO said it could 3 years to recover. 
To me that says he is indirectly asking for more bailout money..there’s nothing in there that says why it would take 3 years to recover, unless you believe airlines won’t be flying commercial flights for 2-3 more years?

Do some additional searching, if you don't believe it. Sure, there could be some motivations for bailout money.

It's not like this truly affects me tons, as I rarely fly. So, I don't get my panties in a bunch about it. Not worth arguing about it.

33,369 posts 115 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Apr 22, 2020 3:15 PM

Just because they reopen and are busy doesn’t mean they just recoup the losses over these months. If you go 6 months without a paycheck, it’s gonna take you about 3 years to be back in the positive. Yes, your salary is back, but you lost 6 months of pay which isn’t just made up when you return to your job.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Apr 22, 2020 4:01 PM

Large major airlines aren’t going to take 3 years to rebound. Just like they aren’t going to rebound immediately. It’ll be somewhere in the middle but saying 3 years is just shock news. No one knows how quickly they’ll bounce back so saying they’ll take 3 years is just a guess that you’re hoping to spook people and create a buzz. It’s dumb. That’s my point. 

33,369 posts 115 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Apr 22, 2020 4:16 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Large major airlines aren’t going to take 3 years to rebound. Just like they aren’t going to rebound immediately. It’ll be somewhere in the middle but saying 3 years is just shock news. No one knows how quickly they’ll bounce back so saying they’ll take 3 years is just a guess that you’re hoping to spook people and create a buzz. It’s dumb. That’s my point. 

Strong disagree. Delta made $4.8B in profit last year (highest ever). Looks like by end of next quarter, they will be close to losing that much already this year. By the end of the year and moving forward, even when it opens up, it will be much higher. Without a bailout, the refunds they have issued and the loans they have had to take on, it will be years to recoup the losses.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Apr 22, 2020 4:39 PM
posted by Laley23

Strong disagree. Delta made $4.8B in profit last year (highest ever). Looks like by end of next quarter, they will be close to losing that much already this year. By the end of the year and moving forward, even when it opens up, it will be much higher. Without a bailout, the refunds they have issued and the loans they have had to take on, it will be years to recoup the losses.

Agree to disagree. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Apr 22, 2020 6:02 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Agree to disagree. 

I’ll add, from a local level, the airport here has lost at least 70% of flights. That includes commuter flights to Charlotte and Atlanta, and total cities in general. Obviously that is temporary, but I think it will take longer to ramp back up to what we had 6 months ago. The airline industry is very political and I think they are worried about the leisure travel traffic and I don’t think all of these flights will be back within a year. 3 years might be a bit much, but it will easily be at least a year. My city relies on tourism and if the NE folk aren’t coming (NY/ Boston), the airlines will suffer on those routes. If/when a 2nd wave occurs, who knows when it will get back to normal. 

33,369 posts 115 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Jun 21, 2020 11:37 AM

First trip since March. Weird going from Chicago ORD to NYC LGA...only 3 total places open between the 2 terminals I was in. Granted LGA I landed at 8:00pm. About 40 people total on my flights. Very clean. No plane service (they give you a plastic bag with water/cheez-it/biscoff and a Lysol wipe when you board.

The airports were just eerie. Especially LGA since it was dark and no natural light was shining in.

OSH Kosh B'Gosh
4,424 posts 18 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Jun 22, 2020 8:05 AM

I did a trip too, South Dakota for a camp.

It was a nice trip. Airline and airport was pretty smooth operating. I would do it again.

ernest_t_bass 12th Son of the Lama
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Wed, Jun 24, 2020 9:08 AM

@SportsAndLady @Laley23

I have to book a trip to Chicago (Drake or Palmer) before 4/21/21. Given the current situation, what would be your recommendations on date/time of year?

Automatik Senior Member
15,737 posts 92 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jun 24, 2020 1:16 PM

Going to Manitou Springs and Gardens of the Gods Friday. Doing a booze float on South Platte River Saturday,

After 3 months of doing fuckall, freedom feels NICE!

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 179 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Jul 6, 2020 12:51 PM

We're considering an all-inclusive trip to Mexico at the end of July.

33,369 posts 115 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Jul 6, 2020 3:48 PM
posted by ernest_t_bass

@SportsAndLady @Laley23

I have to book a trip to Chicago (Drake or Palmer) before 4/21/21. Given the current situation, what would be your recommendations on date/time of year?

Summer or early fall. Not the winter, unless you come for the Christmas stuff. Spring is a bit cold as well, and unpredictable with the weather.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 303 reps Joined Apr 2010
Tue, Jul 7, 2020 9:58 AM

The EU just recently opened up, but we mostly have been exploring southern Italy.  We explored a lot of the Puglia region.  For those who want to go to Italy (first time or again), I highly recommend exploring Puglia.  It is pretty much the Tuscany and the south and I might even venture to say it is better than Tuscany.

Automatik Senior Member
15,737 posts 92 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jul 7, 2020 11:40 AM

I have some Delta credit I'd like to use in the fall..end of Oct or early November. I want to go to a beach as secluded as possible. Florida is obviously not being considered.

I'm thinking Rincon, Puerto Rico. I've been to PR before and loved it. 

They have a rather strict entry requirement at the moment, assuming this will change in the coming weeks/month. Must have documentation of a negative COVID test 72 hours before arrival. Also the entire island is still on a 10pm curfew.

https://www.discoverpuertorico.com/info/travel-advisory

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Tue, Jul 7, 2020 12:10 PM
posted by like_that

The EU just recently opened up, but we mostly have been exploring southern Italy.  We explored a lot of the Puglia region.  For those who want to go to Italy (first time or again), I highly recommend exploring Puglia.  It is pretty much the Tuscany and the south and I might even venture to say it is better than Tuscany.

Interesting. Never done the South of Italy but have done Florence twice (w/ bike tours out to Tuscany, loved it), Cinque Terre (loved it), and then Rome and Venice (they were cool to see, once). Would love to go back and explore the south but Europe doesn't seem in the cards this year, maybe next year.

We are headed up to a beach in Garden City, SC this weekend. Parents are coming into town so we wanted to get away childless for a couple nights, and somewhere where it is easy to distance. I doubt we will go eat indoors anywhere, just trying to enjoy a few nights away and relax.

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