Protests, Riots, Police trashiness cont.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article244688767.htmlposted by jmog

I hope that guy got his wish of suicide by police. Link to the story?

Edit: Found the article, too bad he was only wounded. Scum will now waste tax payers dollars with a trial and jail  

Sorry I thought I posted the link. Yea shot one time in the buttocks 

posted by geeblock

Sorry I thought I posted the link. Yea shot one time in the buttocks 

I saw leg as well, shot twice.

The article had some mistakes, like saying “automatic pistol” for his hand gun and “assault rifle” for a semi automatic rifle.

The thing I noticed about this scum/thug is that he had a felony, it was against the law for him to ever own a gun and somehow he got an AK-47 and a hand gun.

The thug got guns even though it was against the law to get one. Once again criminals don’t listen to gun laws.

https://spectator.org/george-floyd-death-toxicology-report/ “So why couldn’t Floyd breathe, and how did he die? The clear answers to those questions are to be found in his toxicology report, which overwhelmingly and unerringly supports the conclusion that Floyd’s breathing difficulties and death were the direct and undeniable result of his ingestion of fentanyl mixed with methamphetamine. When Floyd arrived at the hospital, his blood was drawn. According to the toxicology report, postmortem testing of that blood established the presence of, among other drugs, “Fentanyl 11 ng/mL” (nanograms per milliter). In that regard, tucked away in the report’s “Reference Comments” is this: “Signs associated with fentanyl toxicity include severe respiratory depression, seizures, hypotension, coma and death. In fatalities from fentanyl, blood concentrations are variable and have been reported as low as 3 ng/mL.” Got that? According to the toxicology report, which is central to the prosecution’s case, at 11 ng/mL, Floyd had over three times the potentially lethal 3 ng/mL dose of fentanyl in his bloodstream when he arrived unresponsive at the hospital. Similarly, the toxicology report also disclosed the presence of methamphetamine, which it states is “capable of causing hallucinations, aggressive behavior and irrational reactions” as well as “restlessness, confusion, hallucinations, circulatory collapse and convulsions.” Defense counsel should blow up those sections of the toxicology report to Mount Rushmore–size proportions, hang them on the courtroom wall, and read them every five minutes to the jury. They more than explain Floyd’s bizarre behavior, inability to stand, difficulty walking, and complaints about being unable to breathe while sitting, standing, and lying on the ground. Moreover, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, among the most common characteristics of a fentanyl overdose is “foaming at the mouth … and confusion or strange behavior before the person became unresponsive” (emphasis added). In short, Floyd’s foaming at the mouth, incoherence, physical incapacity, non-compliant behavior, breathing difficulty, and rapid downward spiral into unconsciousness and death are fully explained by the toxicological evidence that he had ingested a massively lethal overdose of fentanyl mixed with a smaller dose of similarly dangerous and debilitating methamphetamine. In other words, by the time he first encountered the police, Floyd had already rendered himself a dead man walking and was only minutes away from expiring. So, who killed George Floyd? He did.”

The cop would still be liable for not getting immediate medical attention, even if you could prove the knee on the neck didn't contribute to his death.

It's also a garbage article.  If I plow my car into your living room and the shock/fear causes you a heart attack, do you think I'm at fault for your death?

Good lord, Quaker

“Who causes George’s death? He did” that’s the most absurd thing ever. No, it wasn’t the man kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes!

posted by QuakerOats

https://spectator.org/george-floyd-death-toxicology-report/ “So why couldn’t Floyd breathe, and how did he die? The clear answers to those questions are to be found in his toxicology report, which overwhelmingly and unerringly supports the conclusion that Floyd’s breathing difficulties and death were the direct and undeniable result of his ingestion of fentanyl mixed with methamphetamine. When Floyd arrived at the hospital, his blood was drawn. According to the toxicology report, postmortem testing of that blood established the presence of, among other drugs, “Fentanyl 11 ng/mL” (nanograms per milliter). In that regard, tucked away in the report’s “Reference Comments” is this: “Signs associated with fentanyl toxicity include severe respiratory depression, seizures, hypotension, coma and death. In fatalities from fentanyl, blood concentrations are variable and have been reported as low as 3 ng/mL.” Got that? According to the toxicology report, which is central to the prosecution’s case, at 11 ng/mL, Floyd had over three times the potentially lethal 3 ng/mL dose of fentanyl in his bloodstream when he arrived unresponsive at the hospital. Similarly, the toxicology report also disclosed the presence of methamphetamine, which it states is “capable of causing hallucinations, aggressive behavior and irrational reactions” as well as “restlessness, confusion, hallucinations, circulatory collapse and convulsions.” Defense counsel should blow up those sections of the toxicology report to Mount Rushmore–size proportions, hang them on the courtroom wall, and read them every five minutes to the jury. They more than explain Floyd’s bizarre behavior, inability to stand, difficulty walking, and complaints about being unable to breathe while sitting, standing, and lying on the ground. Moreover, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, among the most common characteristics of a fentanyl overdose is “foaming at the mouth … and confusion or strange behavior before the person became unresponsive” (emphasis added). In short, Floyd’s foaming at the mouth, incoherence, physical incapacity, non-compliant behavior, breathing difficulty, and rapid downward spiral into unconsciousness and death are fully explained by the toxicological evidence that he had ingested a massively lethal overdose of fentanyl mixed with a smaller dose of similarly dangerous and debilitating methamphetamine. In other words, by the time he first encountered the police, Floyd had already rendered himself a dead man walking and was only minutes away from expiring. So, who killed George Floyd? He did.”

Yeah, the cop pushing his knee on his neck had nothing do with it.....

Let me put my knee on your neck for 8:46 and see how you like it and how you deal with it. 

What trash. GTFO of here with that shit. 

posted by QuakerOats

https://spectator.org/george-floyd-death-toxicology-report/ “So why couldn’t Floyd breathe, and how did he die? The clear answers to those questions are to be found in his toxicology report, which overwhelmingly and unerringly supports the conclusion that Floyd’s breathing difficulties and death were the direct and undeniable result of his ingestion of fentanyl mixed with methamphetamine. When Floyd arrived at the hospital, his blood was drawn. According to the toxicology report, postmortem testing of that blood established the presence of, among other drugs, “Fentanyl 11 ng/mL” (nanograms per milliter). In that regard, tucked away in the report’s “Reference Comments” is this: “Signs associated with fentanyl toxicity include severe respiratory depression, seizures, hypotension, coma and death. In fatalities from fentanyl, blood concentrations are variable and have been reported as low as 3 ng/mL.” Got that? According to the toxicology report, which is central to the prosecution’s case, at 11 ng/mL, Floyd had over three times the potentially lethal 3 ng/mL dose of fentanyl in his bloodstream when he arrived unresponsive at the hospital. Similarly, the toxicology report also disclosed the presence of methamphetamine, which it states is “capable of causing hallucinations, aggressive behavior and irrational reactions” as well as “restlessness, confusion, hallucinations, circulatory collapse and convulsions.” Defense counsel should blow up those sections of the toxicology report to Mount Rushmore–size proportions, hang them on the courtroom wall, and read them every five minutes to the jury. They more than explain Floyd’s bizarre behavior, inability to stand, difficulty walking, and complaints about being unable to breathe while sitting, standing, and lying on the ground. Moreover, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, among the most common characteristics of a fentanyl overdose is “foaming at the mouth … and confusion or strange behavior before the person became unresponsive” (emphasis added). In short, Floyd’s foaming at the mouth, incoherence, physical incapacity, non-compliant behavior, breathing difficulty, and rapid downward spiral into unconsciousness and death are fully explained by the toxicological evidence that he had ingested a massively lethal overdose of fentanyl mixed with a smaller dose of similarly dangerous and debilitating methamphetamine. In other words, by the time he first encountered the police, Floyd had already rendered himself a dead man walking and was only minutes away from expiring. So, who killed George Floyd? He did.”

Take one Brazilian Jiu Jitsu class and you will know that a knee to the neck for 8 minutes will kill people, even if they aren’t on drugs.

Don’t be stupid QO.

And two guys on your back 

The cops killed George Floyd. Full stop. 

posted by justincredible

The cops killed George Floyd. Full stop. 

Not even a debate. The question is after the video will Chauvin (spelling?) be found guilty of 2nd degree murder? I foresee another riot after this trial.

posted by like_that

Not even a debate. The question is after the video will Chauvin (spelling?) be found guilty of 2nd degree murder? I foresee another riot after this trial.

Unlike other DA's, they charged him with everything.  So the jury isn't forced to choose between 1st degree murder and an acquittal.

Chauvin is cooked.  But I think the riots come when the other officers are justifiably acquitted.  I mean, they'll riot either way.  At this point, the rioting has nothing to do with BLM and is just a bunch of white anarchists.

Would George Floyd have died from an overdose if he wasn’t arrested? Would he have needed narcan? 

I honestly don’t know enough about toxicology to answer these questions. 

Either way I don’t think anyone thinks they way Chauvin acted was correct. 

posted by sportchampps

Would George Floyd have died from an overdose if he wasn’t arrested? Would he have needed narcan?

That's an argument you could make, but then the cops are still obligated to get you immediate care.  Kneeling on the guy's neck instead of administering narcan would still be gross negligence, and potentially 2nd degree murder.

posted by gut

Unlike other DA's, they charged him with everything.  So the jury isn't forced to choose between 1st degree murder and an acquittal.

Chauvin is cooked.  But I think the riots come when the other officers are justifiably acquitted.  I mean, they'll riot either way.  At this point, the rioting has nothing to do with BLM and is just a bunch of white anarchists.

they could all get the chair and the radicals will come into the city and burn it.

posted by gut
That's an argument you could make, but then the cops are still obligated to get you immediate care.  Kneeling on the guy's neck instead of administering narcan would still be gross negligence, and potentially 2nd degree murder.

Agreed at the very least i feel like it would be manslaughter if they could prove he was OD’ing

posted by sportchampps

Agreed at the very least i feel like it would be manslaughter if they could prove he was OD’ing

 But they can’t Prove it, so why are we talking about it? 

Just because someone had Fentanyl in their system when they were murdered (autopsy conclusion), you can’t say “but would he have died from the fentanyl?!” 

Unless you’re a moron, I guess 

posted by SportsAndLady

 But they can’t Prove it, so why are we talking about it?

They don't have to prove it, only raise reasonable doubt.  And, yeah, that matters when it comes to the intent part of murder charges.

Quaker's definitely the guy who'd dedicate his entire day towards searching the Internet to find an article claiming it's the black dude's fault he was killed by cops. Probably got hard when he found it.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/widespread-looting-reported-in-chicago-after-police-involved-shooting

Well there went the only good part of Chicago.  Love hanging out in the city.  Not gonna happen now