Protests, Riots, Police trashiness cont.

jmog Senior Member
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Wed, Jul 29, 2020 10:39 PM
posted by geeblock

I said that’s fine if you read my post.. but then stop bitching  about Chicago 


I am willing to be wrong, but I don’t think I personally have bitched about Chicago.


Fab4Runner Tits McGee
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Wed, Jul 29, 2020 10:42 PM
posted by jmog

When poor areas have some remodeling done and higher price homes, which by your definition would raise the level of the schools, the left decries it as gentrification and it’s a terrible thing.


When you build poor housing in a nicer area the right decries it as lowering the value of the area and schools.


Neither are 100% right or wrong in their stance. But they are both hypocritical in their solidarity.


I know if I live in a run down area (have been there) I wouldn’t mind if the houses around me get built up as it raises the value of my home. If I lived in a nicer area I wouldn’t want the opposite. I wouldn’t want section 8 housing right next to me. Not because of race, but due to killing my property value.


https://ced.sog.unc.edu/does-affordable-housing-negatively-impact-nearby-property-values/

geeblock Member
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Wed, Jul 29, 2020 11:05 PM
posted by jmog

I am willing to be wrong, but I don’t think I personally have bitched about Chicago.


I didn’t make my comment to you .. you commented to me. I was just repeating what my original post said 



like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Thu, Jul 30, 2020 3:23 AM
posted by geeblock

I said that’s fine if you read my post.. but then stop bitching  about Chicago 


DC does the same thing with section 8 housing in affluent/gentrified areas and there are shootings all the time in those areas.  I have heard several shootings near the houses I lived in DC, and some were only one block away.  These are neighborhood blocks, where row houses are going for $700K-$1M (pre covid).  I don't think these policies do what you think they do. 

You're fixated on the "black on black" aspect, but the original point of the Chicago argument is to point out strict gun laws do not work.   There are other cities that can be used as an example, but Chicago is the go to argument. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Thu, Jul 30, 2020 3:33 AM

Also, it is a little dated now, but 10 years ago a survey was done by Harvard surveying economists on all parts of the political spectrum (left/right/moderate) and 93% agreed that rent control reduces the quantity and quality of housing available.  

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jul 30, 2020 8:51 AM
posted by Fab4Runner

https://ced.sog.unc.edu/does-affordable-housing-negatively-impact-nearby-property-values/

I am willing to be wrong, but I doubt putting section 8 housing next to $250,000 homes won’t lower the value of the nicer homes.


justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:51 AM
posted by like_that

Also, it is a little dated now, but 10 years ago a survey was done by Harvard surveying economists on all parts of the political spectrum (left/right/moderate) and 93% agreed that rent control reduces the quantity and quality of housing available.  

What incentive do landlords have to improve housing if they can't increase rent to help pay for the cost? They're just supposed to do it out of the goodness of their hearts and eat the cost?

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:59 AM

I have seen government controlled housing move into small communities, it brings nothing but drugs, violence and general misconduct.

Fab4Runner Tits McGee
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Thu, Jul 30, 2020 11:41 AM

An informative thread that includes Chicago and low income housing. 

geeblock Member
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Thu, Jul 30, 2020 12:35 PM
posted by like_that

DC does the same thing with section 8 housing in affluent/gentrified areas and there are shootings all the time in those areas.  I have heard several shootings near the houses I lived in DC, and some were only one block away.  These are neighborhood blocks, where row houses are going for $700K-$1M (pre covid).  I don't think these policies do what you think they do. 

You're fixated on the "black on black" aspect, but the original point of the Chicago argument is to point out strict gun laws do not work.   There are other cities that can be used as an example, but Chicago is the go to argument. 

I’m not fixated on it but it gets brought up every day here is why I said it 


iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Thu, Jul 30, 2020 8:17 PM

I’d just like to point out, these people are mad at their communities and they’re like vote for change! But the people in charge are already in their party. No change is coming. 

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:18 PM
posted by iclfan2

I’d just like to point out, these people are mad at their communities and they’re like vote for change! But the people in charge are already in their party. No change is coming. 

Safe bet most of the protestors don't vote in their local elections (turnout in local elections averages like 20%!!!!).

I think what's more alarming is, despite the complaints about local officials, people don't vote and instead increasingly look to DC to fix their local problems.

Remember, Trump is a fascist - gets a frickin' PANDEMIC which is tailor-made to seize and abuse power....and he ran away from it.  Then gets criticized for not trampling all over the Constitution.

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:40 PM
posted by gut

Safe bet most of the protestors don't vote in their local elections (turnout in local elections averages like 20%!!!!).

I think what's more alarming is, despite the complaints about local officials, people don't vote and instead increasingly look to DC to fix their local problems.

Remember, Trump is a fascist - gets a frickin' PANDEMIC which is tailor-made to seize and abuse power....and he ran away from it.  Then gets criticized for not trampling all over the Constitution.

Your last paragraph is dead on correct.


iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Aug 1, 2020 4:48 PM

Just a local BLM group terrorizing an immigrant owned business. Demanding local businesses hire black people and buy their inventory from black owned business or they will leave bad reviews on review sites/ mess with your business. Definitely a way to get people on your side. 

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2020/08/01/louisville-cuban-community-rally-support-la-bodeguita-de-mima/5562669002/

Spock Senior Member
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Sat, Aug 1, 2020 4:59 PM
posted by iclfan2

Just a local BLM group terrorizing an immigrant owned business. Demanding local businesses hire black people and buy their inventory from black owned business or they will leave bad reviews on review sites/ mess with your business. Definitely a way to get people on your side. 

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2020/08/01/louisville-cuban-community-rally-support-la-bodeguita-de-mima/5562669002/

I dont get why you would protest a business because you dont agree with something you dont like.

Wouldnt you just decide to not shop there?  Couldnt you just open your own business and do what you are asking them to do?



iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Tue, Aug 4, 2020 8:36 PM

Imagine being the mainstream media and trying to defend these two for throwing Molotov cocktails at police cars. And imagine being a professional in your 30s and being this fucking dumb

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/lawyers-arrested-molotov-cocktail-nyc-protest.html

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Aug 5, 2020 3:32 PM

Rapbangers now shooting 'em up in the Gold Coast neighborhood; unbelievable.......right on Oak St.  If the mayor of Chicago is not removed from office they will lose Michigan Ave.   Sickening.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Aug 5, 2020 3:57 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Rapbangers now shooting 'em up in the Gold Coast neighborhood; unbelievable.......right on Oak St.  If the mayor of Chicago is not removed from office they will lose Michigan Ave.   Sickening.

Plz keep us posted on Michigan Ave’s survival. I know you’re well connected and in the loop on these things!


geeblock Member
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Thu, Aug 6, 2020 10:25 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article244688767.htmlposted by QuakerOats

Rapbangers now shooting 'em up in the Gold Coast neighborhood; unbelievable.......right on Oak St.  If the mayor of Chicago is not removed from office they will lose Michigan Ave.   Sickening.

I guess you were to busy keeping up with black on black crime to keep up with this white guy shooting an ak 47 at police because he had “pandemic depression” or maybe it really not about supporting the police after all 


jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Aug 6, 2020 10:33 AM
posted by geeblock

I guess you were to busy keeping up with black on black crime to keep up with this white guy shooting an ak 47 at police because he had “pandemic depression” or maybe it really not about supporting the police after all 


I hope that guy got his wish of suicide by police. Link to the story?


Edit: Found the article, too bad he was only wounded. Scum will now waste tax payers dollars with a trial and jail  


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