Protests, Riots, Police trashiness cont.

posted by geeblock

Not including accidents 48 cops were killled in 2019. 40 by white people, 7 by black and 1 by Asian according to fbi. 89 total police died on duty in 2019 

Cop isn’t in the top 10 most dangerous jobs 

Coworkers husband got bit by someone he was trying to arrest. Guy I am treating is 50 and close to get a shoulder replacement due to someone trying to resist arrest causing multiple surgeries. 

I think your statement would be better worded it's not one of the top ten deadliest jobs but it sure as hell is dangerous. 

I also hold cops to a high standard.  Meanwhile, medical professionals cause 2500X as many wrongful deaths as cops.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html

I think the takeaway here is to defund healthcare.  It's so much easier to get away with murder if you're a doctor.  Racist cops are doing it wrong.

posted by gut

I would say protesting 50 accidental (mostly) deaths vs. being rather very dismissive of 50 (mostly) intentional deaths is quite the hypocritical stance.

Maybe try googling where "accidental death by cop" ranks among causes of death for black people.  Do you think 50 deaths per year would even crack the top 100?

If there was some way I could protest and stop crime I would. The deaths are the tip of the iceberg as far as the changes out justice system  needs and what the protest is about. No one thinks it’s about George Floyd personally. I find the real problem is crooked prosecutors personally. I support police and have friends that are police and I have played in poker tourneys, golf scrambles and many many raffles they benefited the police and I do so every chance I get. Doesn’t mean I can’t ask for police reform and hold them to the highest of standards.

 The 50 “accidental “deaths you speak of probably resulted in little or any jail time. The people who killed the cops are probably on death row right? 

posted by geeblock

 The 50 “accidental “deaths you speak of probably resulted in little or any jail time. The people who killed the cops are probably on death row right?

Don't you think there's a huge difference between accidental and intentional?  "Intent" is literally a factor in the charges.  When actual gross negligence is involved, officers have been convicted and done time.

Again, doctors kill far, far more people accidentally than cops.  That's important perspective.  50 deaths can be improved on, some, but that's actually a pretty good number out of millions of interactions.

posted by gut

Don't you think there's a huge difference between accidental and intentional?  "Intent" is literally a factor in the charges.  When actual gross negligence is involved, officers have been convicted and done time.

Again, doctors kill far, far more people accidentally than cops.  That's important perspective.  50 deaths can be improved on, some, but that's actually a pretty good number out of millions of interactions.

I think the policy in place is bad I’ll post an example where no one was killled but also no one was punished in what I think is a terrible situation of kids Shot playing with BB guns in a back yard 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/video-shows-police-officer-shooting-14-year-believed/story?id=62886670

Cop says on the radio I think it’s a cap gun.. tells him to drop it .6 of a second later shoots him twice then handcuffs him. This was a legal shooting by police standards. 

This stop will never show up on any fbi data stat but here is what an honor student went through for making a wide turn. Notice the condescending tone of the cop to the kid at the end. If you can stomach it that far. This is also considered a legal stop https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zIHoejJOvkE

posted by geeblock

If there was some way I could protest and stop crime I would. The deaths are the tip of the iceberg as far as the changes out justice system  needs and what the protest is about. No one thinks it’s about George Floyd personally. I find the real problem is crooked prosecutors personally. I support police and have friends that are police and I have played in poker tourneys, golf scrambles and many many raffles they benefited the police and I do so every chance I get. Doesn’t mean I can’t ask for police reform and hold them to the highest of standards.

 The 50 “accidental “deaths you speak of probably resulted in little or any jail time. The people who killed the cops are probably on death row right? 

Supporting the police and supporting the BLM movement are complete dichotomies and mutually exclusive, especially if you read the BLM webpage  and their demands.

posted by jmog

Supporting the police and supporting the BLM movement are complete dichotomies and mutually exclusive, especially if you read the BLM webpage  and their demands.

The blm organization has a website.. the movement/sentiment doesn’t 

posted by geeblock

The blm organization has a website.. the movement/sentiment doesn’t 

It just seems to me that if black lives really mattered, if BLM was something other than a divisive political movement, that the focus would be on the TENS OF THOUSANDS of wrongful deaths at the hands of medical professionals every year as opposed to 50 by cops.

posted by geeblock

The blm organization has a website.. the movement/sentiment doesn’t 

So you are denouncing the organization?

posted by jmog

So you are denouncing the organization?

I don’t agree with some of the things they say and do not sure if denounce is the right word. I’m not for Marxism. I wouldn’t donate money to them. I think the movement is well beyond them and it would be best if they stepped down

posted by jmog

So you are denouncing the organization?

It’s not a political thing for me it’s more a morality thing. It’s easy for me to support good police and be against systemic racism. It’s not that complicated. 

posted by geeblock

I don’t agree with some of the things they say and do not sure if denounce is the right word. I’m not for Marxism. I wouldn’t donate money to them. I think the movement is well beyond them and it would be best if they stepped down

I said it along time ago.....they missed their chance.  They let someone else (mainly the left wing media) run their narrative for them and they came out looking like a marxist hate group.

BLM will never institute good as long as CNN and others are running the show for them

posted by Spock

I said it along time ago.....they missed their chance.  They let someone else (mainly the left wing media) run their narrative for them and they came out looking like a marxist hate group.

BLM will never institute good as long as CNN and others are running the show for them

I’m glad I don’t know what this means 

posted by geeblock

I don’t agree with some of the things they say and do not sure if denounce is the right word. I’m not for Marxism. I wouldn’t donate money to them. I think the movement is well beyond them and it would be best if they stepped down

We agree here

posted by geeblock

I’m glad I don’t know what this means 

99.9% of the country hasnt seen in person a BLM member, talked to one, went or seen a rally or seen a "peaceful protest"

All they have seen is constant news footage of riots, looting, violence, screaming at cops, beating anyone that has another view etc.......

The left wing media pushing the constant footage of unrest to try in some way to stick it to the president has in reality smeared and clouded any decent message from BLM>

Lol Wheeler went into the protests in Portland last night and they shit all over him. He also had 4 security guards protecting him in the “peaceful protest”. Can’t wait for those skinny jean wearing idiots to get theirs. 

posted by jmog

We are talking people, not the state and someone making a terrible decision.

Literally no one thinks it’s right to kill someone for selling cigarettes.

That statement was just SnL being SnL.

Wait, let me get this straight. 

I say "someone selling cigarettes should not be killed by the cops"

You say "literally no one disagrees with you" and then "that statement is just SnL being SnL"? 

So I'm confused, what exactly did I say wrong?

posted by SportsAndLady

Wait, let me get this straight. 

I say "someone selling cigarettes should not be killed by the cops"

You say "literally no one disagrees with you" and then "that statement is just SnL being SnL"? 

So I'm confused, what exactly did I say wrong?

It’s fairly easy to find the douchbaginess  if you read the post you quoted, then read your post.

You sarcastically stated something like you were saying something smart or profound yet it was something that literally everyone agrees with. 

Not that hard to figure out.