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justincredible Honorable Admin
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Fri, May 21, 2021 8:41 AM
posted by brutus161

How are the dodgers fucking over taxpayers? Please elaborate. If you are meaning that the loss in revenue from monetary fines for breaking a law are somehow hurting taxpayers, then you are proving the point of laws that are generated solely to produce revenue. 

By gut’s extremely bad logic the state can simply make something illegal and, boom, the taxpayers are now a victim and the law is justified.

“It’s illegal so you’re stealing from taxpayers. How is that victimless!?!?”

brutus161 The Navy Guy
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Fri, May 21, 2021 8:46 AM
posted by justincredible

By gut’s extremely bad logic the state can simply make something illegal and, boom, the taxpayers are now a victim and the law is justified.

“It’s illegal so you’re stealing from taxpayers. How is that victimless!?!?”

It's like the states that makle it illegal to collect rainwater. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, May 21, 2021 11:42 AM
posted by Al Bundy

MLB pitcher has 20 seconds to throw a pitch or attempt a pickoff.


How about the batters are not allowed to step out of the batter's box once inside.  The batters are the majority of the problem, stepping out after every single pitch and adjusting every article of clothing and jewelry they are wearing ...... ridiculous. 

Al Bundy Senior Member
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Fri, May 21, 2021 11:53 AM
posted by QuakerOats


How about the batters are not allowed to step out of the batter's box once inside.  The batters are the majority of the problem, stepping out after every single pitch and adjusting every article of clothing and jewelry they are wearing ...... ridiculous. 

Yeah, the umps shouldn't grant time after pitch, but I think that only works if the pitcher can't hold the ball forever.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, May 21, 2021 12:30 PM
posted by justincredible

You are really bad at this.


You think tax evasion isn't baked into the taxes everyone else pays?!?

Tax dodgers are victimless crimes?  Fucking moronic.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, May 21, 2021 12:34 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

"Taxpayers" are never victims as they are never entitled to one penny's worth of my production. Ever.

Don't use any govt services or drive on taxpayer funded roads, then fine don't pay taxes.  Otherwise, that's known as theft, and it's hardly a victimless crime.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, May 21, 2021 12:34 PM

Sounds to me like the crime we're talking about here should be called "over-taxation", if the point being quibbled over are all the victims of not enough taxes being paid.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Fri, May 21, 2021 12:41 PM
posted by gut

Don't use any govt services or drive on taxpayer funded roads, then fine don't pay taxes.  Otherwise, that's known as theft, and it's hardly a victimless crime.

Better, get rid of all of the "Argumentum ad Governmentum" services, which is just about all of them. All of this time to come up with a response, and the best you could do is "Muh Roads!"?

gut Senior Member
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Fri, May 21, 2021 12:41 PM
posted by Heretic

Sounds to me like the crime we're talking about here should be called "over-taxation", if the point being quibbled over are all the victims of not enough taxes being paid.

Next time you have dinner with Justin, feel free to skip out on the check.  Victimless crime.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, May 21, 2021 12:44 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

Better, get rid of all of the "Argument ad Governmentum" service, which is just about all of them. All of this time to come up with a response, and the best you could do is "Muh Roads!"?

I could go on all day.  Tried to dumb it down for ya all.

Did you or your kids ever attend public schools, by chance?  State college?  LOL, ok that's just shit posting.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Fri, May 21, 2021 12:49 PM
posted by gut

I could go on all day.  Tried to dumb it down for ya all.

Did you or your kids ever attend public schools, by chance?  State college?  LOL, ok that's just shit posting.

So even though I pay several times in taxes more than those paid by the average taxpayer, and infinity times more than nearly half the population, I shouldn't use the services even though I would prefer most of them to go away? That's a ridiculously stupid argument, even by your standards. If I have to pay for "muh roads", I'm going to use them, even though the private sector has proven better ways to accomplish the same thing.


justincredible Honorable Admin
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Fri, May 21, 2021 12:58 PM
posted by gut

You think tax evasion isn't baked into the taxes everyone else pays?!?

Tax dodgers are victimless crimes?  Fucking moronic.

Again. You are REALLY bad at this.

brutus161 The Navy Guy
1,688 posts 23 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, May 21, 2021 1:04 PM

How did Gut take arguing about fines on victimless crimes to evading actual taxes? He started with one argument, and somehow ended up three states over. Growing pot in your backyard for your own personal use is quite different from not paying taxes.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 246 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, May 21, 2021 1:05 PM

Your argument shifted from growing a pot plant isn't victimless because of taxpayers to, somehow, it being tax evasion to break a law? Talk about moronic.

Your logic is that ALL laws are justified because an imaginary taxpayer will be harmed from the state not collecting the revenue generated from the arrest.


justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 246 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, May 21, 2021 1:10 PM

gut, explain to me how jaywalking on an empty street isn't a victimless crime? Is that not taking money from the taxpayers because the state didn't generate any revenue from it?

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Fri, May 21, 2021 1:13 PM
posted by gut

Next time you have dinner with Justin, feel free to skip out on the check.  Victimless crime.

LOL

That literally isn't a crime. And I'd be more than happy to pay the full bill.

Al Bundy Senior Member
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Sun, May 23, 2021 9:18 PM

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Sun, May 23, 2021 9:26 PM

If I were a dictator, I’d require mullets.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, May 23, 2021 9:58 PM

If a manager of a sit down restaurant comes out to fix a problem (slow service, missing order, poorly prepared entry etc) and uses the excuse that they are short staffed...he/she should have to donate 1/2 his night’s salary to the waiter/waitress of your table.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Mon, May 24, 2021 6:44 AM
posted by Ironman92

If a manager of a sit down restaurant comes out to fix a problem (slow service, missing order, poorly prepared entry etc) and uses the excuse that they are short staffed...he/she should have to donate 1/2 his night’s salary to the waiter/waitress of your table.

Likely not an excuse, and the reason for being short-staffed is already 99.9999% government, so no new law is needed.

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