posted by kizer permanenteI could be wrong.. it wouldn’t be the first time .. but what pipelines has he shutdown ? I know Keystone. Are there others?
Keystone XL, which never carried so much as a teaspoon full, was cancelled. Keystone is still operational.
I don’t actually think Biden has caused the prices to go up in this short term (from pipelines), but shutting down any pipeline (they were also looking at one in Michigan but has since backtracked) and pausing drilling lease permits isn’t a good policy for the future.
posted by kizer permanenteI could be wrong.. it wouldn’t be the first time .. but what pipelines has he shutdown ? I know Keystone. Are there others?
He is definitely considering another.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-admin-considering-shutting-down-223448782.html
posted by iclfan2I don’t actually think Biden has caused the prices to go up in this short term (from pipelines), but shutting down any pipeline (they were also looking at one in Michigan but has since backtracked) and pausing drilling lease permits isn’t a good policy for the future.
Do you think we would have this price under Trump?
posted by bigorangebuck22Keystone XL, which never carried so much as a teaspoon full, was cancelled. Keystone is still operational.
False; there are several phases of the Keystone that have been in operation for years.
posted by QuakerOats
False; there are several phases of the Keystone that have been in operation for years.
not the Keystone XL extension. which is exactly what he said.
posted by kizer permanentenot the Keystone XL extension. which is exactly what he said.
The southern leg of Keystone XL has been operational for over 7 years; the northern leg of Keystone XL is the segment that has been halted. Each are an extension of the Keystone Pipeline System.
Mariner East 2 pipeline was shut down by lefties in PA. not a huge deal now other than killing the gas prices people can get for their gas in PA/WV/OH. but in like 6-10 years when gas shortages start hitting areas outside of those 3 states there will be issues.
posted by j_crazyMariner East 2 pipeline was shut down by lefties in PA. not a huge deal now other than killing the gas prices people can get for their gas in PA/WV/OH. but in like 6-10 years when gas shortages start hitting areas outside of those 3 states there will be issues.
I never heard about this
Austria's crackdown on the unvaxxed.
https://www.wkbn.com/news/national-world/austria-orders-nationwide-lockdown-for-the-unvaccinated-2/
Well then, G'Day Mate!
posted by Gardens35Austria's crackdown on the unvaxxed.
https://www.wkbn.com/news/national-world/austria-orders-nationwide-lockdown-for-the-unvaccinated-2/
Well then, G'Day Mate!
That's a lovely accent you have. New Jersey?posted by like_that
Let's put another shrimp on the barby!
posted by kizer permanenteI never heard about this
No one outside of my industry seems to know about them. here's a list off the top of my head listed in order of my perception of their importance.
1. Mariner East 2
2. Dakota Access
3. Mountain Valley
4. Keystone XL (true, it's largely used to transport canadian oil to market, so it's not really a huge improvement for american producers. but that oil is still going to markets in galveston and the east coast by rail and truck, so huge carbon impact)
5. Atlantic Coast
6. Enbridge Line 3 (big news last week)
7. Enbridge Line 5
posted by Gardens35Austria's crackdown on the unvaxxed.
https://www.wkbn.com/news/national-world/austria-orders-nationwide-lockdown-for-the-unvaccinated-2/
Well then, G'Day Mate!
Austria, not Australia, 2 different countries.
posted by jmogAustria, not Australia, 2 different countries.
Dumb and dumber, man.
posted by FletchDo you think we would have this price under Trump?
The market will price in future changes in supply, so Biden's actions definitely have an impact. But there's also been a demand surge with people getting back to work, travel, etc...A lot of climate change headwinds, and dropping $500B on green initiatives isn't a positive development for gas prices.
So prices would be marginally lower under Trump, I think. No idea how much, guessing maybe like 10% lower. It's pretty much impossible for 1 country to long-term impact supply to drive price changes....so with Trump you're looking at a little more locally sourced drilling, which basically yields just a transportation savings.
Probably too complex to try to manipulate gas prices in order to prop up more expensive wind & solar, but it remains true that prices have to be similar in order for people to swallow the switch from fossil fuels. Large tax increases for gas, and possibly carbon credits, are on the horizon.
posted by gutThe market will price in future changes in supply, so Biden's actions definitely have an impact. But there's also been a demand surge with people getting back to work, travel, etc...A lot of climate change headwinds, and dropping $500B on green initiatives isn't a positive development for gas prices.
So prices would be marginally lower under Trump, I think. No idea how much, guessing maybe like 10% lower. It's pretty much impossible for 1 country to long-term impact supply to drive price changes....so with Trump you're looking at a little more locally sourced drilling, which basically yields just a transportation savings.
Probably too complex to try to manipulate gas prices in order to prop up more expensive wind & solar, but it remains true that prices have to be similar in order for people to swallow the switch from fossil fuels. Large tax increases for gas, and possibly carbon credits, are on the horizon.
lolololoollloooll, 10%. You do realize that gas went up over 100%? To say it still would have went up90% under trump is laughable
My God, people.
posted by Fletchlolololoollloooll, 10%. You do realize that gas went up over 100%? To say it still would have went up90% under trump is laughable
Of course you're using the pandemic bottom as your baseline. Not exactly honest.
But $2.58 this time in 2019, vs. $3.42 now. So my 10% lower would yield $3.08, which is less than 20% above 2019.
And 20% would still be overly generous. There were already some flashing recession signals late in 2019, and gas had already come down from it's peak at about $2.90.
Still not as high as it was a decade ago - and you understand what the main driver of that was?
