Covid-19 discussion, continued...

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 11, 2020 10:41 PM

That video can’t be real. If your options are A) dance back to back, or B) don’t dance, then everyone in that fucking gym is picking B. 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:41 AM

I saw a few comments saying this video was from the Czech Republic.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 11:58 AM

https://gbdeclaration.org/

Spock Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 12:08 PM
posted by justincredible

https://gbdeclaration.org/

THis

Spock Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 7:53 PM

I see where the media is ramping up the "Covid gonna kills us all" reporting style.


Man they are pulling out all the stops this year.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:00 PM
posted by Spock

I see where the media is ramping up the "Covid gonna kills us all" reporting style.


Man they are pulling out all the stops this year.

Well people like you claimed it went away now it’s the highest totals since inception. 


Trimmer36 Junior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:10 PM
posted by kizer permanente


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/09/herd-immunity-letter-signed-fake-experts-dr-johnny-bananas-covid

Ah, yes, a new cure from massage hypnotherapy or Mongolian khoomii singing. I think I'll take my chances with Dr. Fauci.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:14 PM

The 3 that actually proposed this are clearly chumps.

Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:15 PM

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-12/world-health-organization-coronavirus-lockdown-advice/12753688

So almost everyone said lockdowns were bad. Can’t wait for NY to do it again 

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:21 PM
posted by justincredible

The 3 that actually proposed this are clearly chumps.

Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

But the article says this is a petition. If you have someones name and email you can sign up as them   There’s no way to confirm the people who signed up are them. 


justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:26 PM
posted by kizer permanente

But the article says this is a petition. If you have someones name and email you can sign up as them   There’s no way to confirm the people who signed up are them. 


What does that have to do with the 3 people I specifically listed? The 3 that have actually proposed this plan.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:31 PM
posted by justincredible

What does that have to do with the 3 people I specifically listed? The 3 that have actually proposed this plan.

Nothing specifically. I’m more saying the total to make it seem it has more credence. I guess I’d ask you why do you put more faith in these 3 than all the others who diametrically oppose this?   


justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:45 PM

I believe we’re going to be feeling the unintended consequences of our response to COVID for a long time. Given my well known views on govt I’m surprised you wonder why I prefer this plan. 

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 9:10 PM
posted by justincredible

I believe we’re going to be feeling the unintended consequences of our response to COVID for a long time. Given my well known views on govt I’m surprised you wonder why I prefer this plan. 

I guess I just feel like there isn’t a good answer for it. Do you want to kill a bunch of people or do you want to slow the economy?  I don’t believe there’s a way around slowing the economy. You can’t make people who aren’t comfortable go out to eat. You can’t make make people who lost their jobs spend money they don’t have. Ohio opened up to people who feel like going and places are still going bankrupt. 


friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 9:56 PM
posted by kizer permanente

I guess I just feel like there isn’t a good answer for it. Do you want to kill a bunch of people or do you want to slow the economy?  I don’t believe there’s a way around slowing the economy. You can’t make people who aren’t comfortable go out to eat. You can’t make make people who lost their jobs spend money they don’t have. Ohio opened up to people who feel like going and places are still going bankrupt. 


I don’t think opening the economy or avoiding shutdowns equals killing a bunch of people. You’re right, there isn’t a clear answer. But it’d help if people had more accountability or responsibility. If you’re high risk or consistently around people that are, then don’t go to weddings or parties or out to eat. 

There was an article on Dayton Daily News over the weekend that with outdoor dining winding down, half of restaurants are facing closing down over the winter. The 10pm alcohol rule needs to go at the very least. 


friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 10:02 PM

Has there been any significant progress made? I feel like I haven't heard anything about vaccines in months. Is there any type of testing readily available that doesn't require driving up somewhere and having a swab up your nose only to get the results days later? 

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 10:25 PM
posted by justincredible

https://gbdeclaration.org/

It is if society does not care, or have the foresight, to see that the mental and physical harm is going to exceed the health harm in the not too distant long run


justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 10:28 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

It is if society does not care, or have the foresight, to see that the mental and physical harm is going to exceed the health harm in the not too distant long run


I’m seeing the mental harm first hand and it’s kinda scary. That also probably plays a part in my views of the Covid response.


kizer permanente Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 12, 2020 10:35 PM
posted by justincredible

I’m seeing the mental harm first hand and it’s kinda scary. That also probably plays a part in my views of the Covid response.


Care to share? I’m not calling you a liar btw... just wondering. 


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