posted by justincredibleThis is the NYC Health Commissioner. This didn't age well.
Yea i saw clips of NY officials telling people to "take the subway", "go out in public".......they were spewing shit like this because Trump made the travel ban and they had to go full tard.
posted by O-TrapHow do you mean? Like those who got a flu shot are less susceptible to it somehow?
I doubt that, if only because this virus isn't a flu strain, but I might be misunderstanding what you mean.
THis virus is interacting in the environment unlike others. It kills some while others have zero symptoms. Something has to be giving people an advantage.
posted by justincredibleThis is the NYC Health Commissioner. This didn't age well.
Ouch.
posted by Spocknot taxable on the front end.....but back end, I bet they 1099 your ass as income next year.
No sir.
posted by SpockTHis virus is interacting in the environment unlike others. It kills some while others have zero symptoms. Something has to be giving people an advantage.
Oh, I agree. I just doubt the difference is a flu vaccine, since this isn't influenza. I had read somewhere that there seemed to be differences based on blood type. Not sure how substantial that is, but it's possible.
posted by O-TrapOh, I agree. I just doubt the difference is a flu vaccine, since this isn't influenza. I had read somewhere that there seemed to be differences based on blood type. Not sure how substantial that is, but it's possible.
There's a whole host of complicating factors, many of which the "average American" is guilty of at least one, and if it's multiple factors you might struggle with it:
overweight, lack of exercise, pre-diabetes, over 60, asthma, other chronic respiratory disease, smokers...and other things can weaken your immune system like bad diet, alcohol, lack of proper rest
You sort of start thinking "just let me get this and get it over with" but then you realize 15% of people get knocked on their ass bad enough to go to the hospital even if they can expect a full recovery. Although I don't know if the trigger is that you feel worse than the flu so much as the difficulty breathing forces you to the hospital.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Yeah, the lack of more defined numbers is frustrating. I also like this Fivethirtyeight article about the wide range of cases and deaths
I do like this Johns Hopkins map of total cases, deaths, and most importantly people recovered.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
I think we are all hearing all these new cases and deaths. I think right now as a country, we are tracking like 1-2% mortality rate. That is pretty damn good all things considered.
I would appreciate a total number breakdown as follows:
- Total number of active cases
- Total number of hospital cases
- Total number of ICU cases
- Total deaths
- Total number of hospital cases that have recovered
- Total number of ICU cases that have recovered
- All that data broken down into state and if possible county and city and how it changes over time.
I think that breakdown, if possible, may be the case way we can understand how this going.
Yep.
And tracking another stat: the negative test results, which have been running around 90%.
posted by gutThere's a whole host of complicating factors, many of which the "average American" is guilty of at least one, and if it's multiple factors you might struggle with it:
overweight, lack of exercise, pre-diabetes, over 60, asthma, other chronic respiratory disease, smokers...and other things can weaken your immune system like bad diet, alcohol, lack of proper rest
You sort of start thinking "just let me get this and get it over with" but then you realize 15% of people get knocked on their ass bad enough to go to the hospital even if they can expect a full recovery. Although I don't know if the trigger is that you feel worse than the flu so much as the difficulty breathing forces you to the hospital.
And then this happens:
https://www.foxnews.com/health/perfectly-healthy-texas-dad-with-coronavirus-dies
Maybe the guy had some underlying issue he and his family did not know about ??
posted by QuakerOatsMaybe the guy had some underlying issue he and his family did not know about ??
Or maybe he waited too long to go to the hospital. It's not a hard and fast rule, some young people die unexpectedly from the flu every year. Just because the vast majority have multiple factors doesn't mean people with no factors are invulnerable.
Also, at 44 many men have not had regular doctor checkups and are just entering a stage of life where complications are developing. He could have had undiagnosed heart disease, or diabetes, or any number of things. Or he was just really unlucky - there's always the 0.0001% who's immune system just unexpectedly gets overrun by this or the flu, etc.
As sad as it seems, perfectly healthy folks die every day. Some for no reason they ever find out, some with a common flu.
Its sad, but it happens.
There’s absolutely something that makes people much more susceptible than others. I don’t think it’s far fetched to say that by now just about everyone has been exposed. So why do most people have little to no trouble while others - sometimes young and healthy - get it die.
posted by QuakerOats
Yep.
And tracking another stat: the negative test results, which have been running around 90%.
Sort of. I think the lack of testing throws a wrench into that data. Most areas in the country still have a shortage of tests.
posted by friendfromlowryThere’s absolutely something that makes people much more susceptible than others. I don’t think it’s far fetched to say that by now just about everyone has been exposed. So why do most people have little to no trouble while others - sometimes young and healthy - get it die.
That right there is the whole point of trying to flatten the curve and social distancing. It may be fine for me and you, but if we are a carrier, we may give it to someone who by random chance, dies.
Man, the numbers out of Italy today are just depressing
919 deaths today and 9,134 total dead.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Man, the numbers out of Italy today are just depressing
919 deaths today and 9,134 total dead.
Read this today too. Not a bad read. Why Italy so bad, yet Germany has a .5% death rate.
Fuckin' Joe Diffie has it goddammit.
posted by justincredibleFuckin' Joe Diffie has it goddammit.
He’s a good dude
Steve Ballmer and his wife are donating $25 million to the cause. And immediately people on Twitter are criticizing him because that’s “all” he donated.
posted by wildcats20Steve Ballmer and his wife are donating $25 million to the cause. And immediately people on Twitter are criticizing him because that’s “all” he donated.
Glad you said this. Now I'll be sure to not open Twitter anytime soon.
posted by ptown_trojans_1I think we are all hearing all these new cases and deaths. I think right now as a country, we are tracking like 1-2% mortality rate. That is pretty damn good all things considered.
From what I’ve seen today, it looks like they have said it’s lower to more like .1% flu level unless you’ve seen different.
Dunno who this guy is but I read it earlier and searched twitter and this account had what I was looking for.
https://twitter.com/tomfitton/status/1243654112094359552?s=21
posted by justincredibleFuckin' Joe Diffie has it goddammit.
Prop him up...
