Boosted or nah?

posted by Laley23

Of course you are a coin flip. What were you expecting? I am sure there is a vaccine out there that actually keeps you from getting a disease. But that is not how 99% of them work. A vaccine doesn't magically keep someones cough cells from entering your body. You aren't walking around with an invisible forcefield that only activates for certain diseases lol. 

You get the vaccine because when you are infected, it fights it off quicker, more effectively, and reduces your risk of symptoms/bad symptoms. All that inherently reduces — significantly — the spread of the virus/disease from you to someone else.

Wasting your time explaining this to him.

Mrs. Z and I got our Moderna boosters today.  So far, feels exactly like the original shots.  Occasionally feel a tenderness in area, that's it.  My 88 year-old father got his booster yesterday.  He said he has no symptoms, either.

We saw another couple we know in line while we were waiting.  The wife was there for her booster (she's a nurse) but their doctor advised against the husband getting it.  Apparently he developed Bell's palsy after the second shot and his face was paralyzed for two weeks.  Seems to have made a complete recovery, but he said he'll make do without the booster.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Wasting your time explaining this to him.

I know how the immune system works and what a vaccine is supposed to do.  Either this is not a true vaccine in its definition or its the worst "vaccine" ever made.

posted by Fletch

I know how the immune system works and what a vaccine is supposed to do.  Either this is not a true vaccine in its definition or its the worst "vaccine" ever made.

Getting the vaccine reduces the risk of serious illness and death from a fairly small number to a number close to zero. Don't know WTF you want it to do.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Don't know WTF you want it to do.

Take the flu vaccine, for instance.  I haven't had the flu in almost 30 years, but I still get the vaccine because it might help reduce symptoms if I do get the flu.

10 out of 10 people with severe symptoms from Covid (or flu) wish they had gotten vaccinated.

Anyone know anyone vaccinated who's been hospitalized? I don't.

I do have a friend from high school living in Orlando. He was just moved out of ICU yesterday, luckily he's improving. He's 38. Decent health. Unvaxxed.

posted by Automatik

Anyone know anyone vaccinated who's been hospitalized? I don't.

Guy I know just got out after being hospitalized with pneumonia.  Early 50's, and pretty fit.  I doubt he got vaccinated, and was one of those people convinced he had Covid early back in 2020.  Not sure if he ever got a confirmed test, though. 

Basically I'd say he was indifferent, and didn't think he needed the vaccine or that Covid wouldn't be a big deal if he caught it.

posted by Fletch

I know how the immune system works and what a vaccine is supposed to do.  Either this is not a true vaccine in its definition or its the worst "vaccine" ever made.

I don't think you know any of that.  The vaccine for Covid is actually extremely effective as far as vaccines go.  If you don't want it, fine.  But just because you don't want it doesn't mean it's a "failure".  

posted by Automatik

Anyone know anyone vaccinated who's been hospitalized? I don't.

I do have a friend from high school living in Orlando. He was just moved out of ICU yesterday, luckily he's improving. He's 38. Decent health. Unvaxxed.

I’ll still see some at work that are vaccinated but the virus isn’t that bad for them. All of the really sick patients are unvaccinated. Every single one. 

Fletch doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but who cares anymore. 

posted by friendfromlowry

I’ll still see some at work that are vaccinated but the virus isn’t that bad for them. All of the really sick patients are unvaccinated. Every single one. 

Fletch doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but who cares anymore. 

Don't worry, he or QQ will find an anecdotal example of the opposite and claim it as the "real" truth.

posted by Automatik

Anyone know anyone vaccinated who's been hospitalized? I don't.

Father in law...and passed away from it. Now, he was 75, in poor health, and was past six months of his second dose. The booster was not available yet when he passed away. 

My step uncle was also vaccinated and was in hospital due with COVID, but he is 68 and has Parkinson's. He is fine now and boosted. 

Point being, both are in high risk categories and did not have the booster at the time. 

Also, step father was in a part of the state that had low vaccination rates and little to no mask wearing. 

posted by queencitybuckeye

Getting the vaccine reduces the risk of serious illness and death from a fairly small number to a number close to zero. Don't know WTF you want it to do.

So does living a healthy lifestyle, not being a fat POS and eating good takes it to about zero also

Are you aware that you're a moron? 

We've been at this for 18 months. How are you THIS uneducated? Fucking hell.

posted by Fletch

So does living a healthy lifestyle, not being a fat POS and eating good takes it to about zero also

Don't change the subject. You got in a lie. Own it.

Thanks to the unvaxxed, I’ve had my heart valve repair surgery postponed because of the surge and no beds available.  (This is University Hospital in Cleveland).  I was all set to go with plans in place.  And now I’m just a plane on the tarmac waiting for the go……because dumb asses are hogging up the rooms.

“Don’t tell me what to do.  The vax is bad……………oh……help me now…..I think I’m going to die”.

And I know some people who have either died or were seriously in danger because of not being vaxxed.

I’ve been very careful throughout this whole thing. I’m double dosed Moderna with a booster. I mask up when out. 

Coulda had this all out of the way. And now I wait.  

Son and I are getting booster tomorrow evening

posted by Automatik

Anyone know anyone vaccinated who's been hospitalized? I don't.

I do know of a highly regarded wrestling coach, who recently passed away from COVID.  He was fully vaccinated and waiting for his booster.  He was 80 years old, so I think that obviously played a part into it, and I don't know what his health record was, but externally he always stayed in great shape for his age.  

Sad to see, but there are always many more variables to why people pass away from COVID.  Generally speaking, it seems that most people who are vaccinated are avoiding hospital beds and death.  A lot of friends I know that work in hospitals confirm this, and we also have FFL confirming it. 

At the end of the day, I don't give a shit what your choice is, because it is your body.  I will think you're an idiot if you come up with conspiracy theories, but I do know some people who have legitimate concerns or allergies.  For those people, I have found you can have a decent convo about it and maybe convince them into taking it.   

Regardless (and not to turn this into the other COVID thread), I have been over these dumbass recycled Government restrictions that have failed to do anything to save any lives. Those politicians still using the same tactics that have failed for over 2 years need to be tarred and feathered.   I was just in Sweden and Denmark for over a week during Thanksgiving.   They are both living life normally, especially Sweden.   I think history will show that Sweden got it right from the beginning and if anyone wants to argue this, please copy this paragraph and take it to the other COVID thread.  I don't want to hijack the booster thread, which I know I am already kind of doing. 

posted by Fletch

not being a fat POS 

What a human being.

Nah. I only got it in the first place so I didnt have to wear a mask.

Look how well that went.

Had some decent chills about 24 hour mark and about 30 hour mark