What's outraging you today?

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, May 24, 2019 11:53 AM

 

 

All the more reason to investigate the investigators ……especially the leakers who attempt to influence public opinion.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Fri, May 24, 2019 6:01 PM
posted by QuakerOats

All the more reason to investigate the investigators ……especially the leakers who attempt to influence public opinion.

If that's even plausible, then the SYSTEM set up for watchdogs is flawed and needs to be looked at.  Not just the people.

FatHobbit Senior Member
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Sat, May 25, 2019 1:18 AM

We KNOW the NSA or someone has been monitoring and recording all phone conversations because of Snowden. So of course Trump and his campaign calls were included. Did Obama direct someone to give this info to Hillary's team? Or did someone else? I would not be surprised. I think it's a fair question to ask. 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Mon, May 27, 2019 7:14 AM
posted by FatHobbit

We KNOW the NSA or someone has been monitoring and recording all phone conversations because of Snowden. So of course Trump and his campaign calls were included. Did Obama direct someone to give this info to Hillary's team? Or did someone else? I would not be surprised. I think it's a fair question to ask. 

Well, I don't think you can even rise to that level of political life without being some sort of viper. 

gut Senior Member
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Mon, May 27, 2019 10:11 AM
posted by O-Trap

If that's even plausible, then the SYSTEM set up for watchdogs is flawed and needs to be looked at.  Not just the people.

Well, the FISA courts, for example, reject something like 0.1% of applications.  It's basically a rubber-stamp, and I think we may see with the FISA warrants around the Trump campaign that it's actually a pretty low standard.

Until people demand better from the politicians they actually vote for - and don't only get outraged when it's the other side doing it - nothing will change.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, May 28, 2019 12:13 PM
posted by gut

Well, the FISA courts, for example, reject something like 0.1% of applications.  It's basically a rubber-stamp, and I think we may see with the FISA warrants around the Trump campaign that it's actually a pretty low standard.

Until people demand better from the politicians they actually vote for - and don't only get outraged when it's the other side doing it - nothing will change.

 

 

Except ---

 

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ex-fbi-lawyer-carter-page-fisa-application-approved-in-unusual-way-by-mccabe-yates-and-baker

 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 43 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, May 31, 2019 4:48 PM

So Vox spitefully stopped Mayor Pete from appearing on Dave Rubin's show. They don't like who Dave has on his show even though Rubin invites people from the left all the time. And now they are trying to get Louder with Crowder banned from youtube. Poking fun at people is frowned upon by that group. 

Can we just come out and say that these smaller media types are more activist than anything else? I don't know why they won't just publish under that banner, like Right Wing Watch as an example.. They'd still have their viewers without the disguise.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Fri, May 31, 2019 5:27 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Can we just come out and say that these smaller media types are more activist than anything else?

I mean, most sane people already do.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, May 31, 2019 6:24 PM
posted by O-Trap

I mean, most sane people already do.

The biggest problem I see with most "journalists" isn't that they have an agenda or indoctrination or whatever, it's that most seem to graduate without having learned anything relevant/useful to whatever their coverage focus is.

I'm sure we all can go on and on with examples, but I always point to one example in particular because it's actually quite shocking.  Back in the late 90's / early 00's the WSJ - it one of the two premier financial/market publications - knew jack squat about hedge funds.  They had no clue what they were writing about (not shocking, many INVESTORS in hedge funds didn't really know what they were investing in).  Although that's perhaps a red herring since, even if you could find a hedge fund manager to make the time to talk to you, the industry was/is notoriously secretive.  Except I'm talking about simple and easy stuff that could have been understood without a lot of effort.  Now I could forgive even the NYT for not understanding what a hedge fund is doing, but that's something you expect the WSJ/FT to get right.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Tue, Jun 18, 2019 12:33 PM

Fuck the TSA. Can't travel with a freaking Toddler without getting all of the bags checked. Looked through each kids book, touched all the pouches, didn't even have any liquid in there. 

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Tue, Jun 18, 2019 12:39 PM
posted by iclfan2

Fuck the TSA.

You had me here.

Also, did I hear that I'm going to start needing to carry my birth certificate whenever I fly?  If so, that's a fucking crock of shit.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Tue, Jun 18, 2019 1:12 PM
posted by O-Trap

You had me here.

Also, did I hear that I'm going to start needing to carry my birth certificate whenever I fly?  If so, that's a fucking crock of shit.

I think you need a new license by the end of 2020 to be able to fly called “real id”. You can use a passport instead though. 

BRF Senior Member
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Tue, Jun 18, 2019 1:53 PM

I jumped through the hoops so I could get the “real id”. It’s actually called a compliant license. 

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 10:04 AM
posted by O-Trap

You had me here.

Also, did I hear that I'm going to start needing to carry my birth certificate whenever I fly?  If so, that's a fucking crock of shit.

Not if you get the "new" license by October of this year. The "new" license requires some additional documentation than normal license (B.C. being one of them).

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 10:06 AM
posted by iclfan2

I think you need a new license by the end of 2020 to be able to fly called “real id”. You can use a passport instead though. 

I am fairly certain it is by October of this year, I hope I am wrong and you are right.

 

My current license expires in February, but I travel a lot for work so I was going to have to get the "real ID" one in October to be able to travel. If you are right then I will just need to get it in February when my current expires.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 10:18 AM
posted by jmog

I am fairly certain it is by October of this year, I hope I am wrong and you are right.

 

My current license expires in February, but I travel a lot for work so I was going to have to get the "real ID" one in October to be able to travel. If you are right then I will just need to get it in February when my current expires.

We don't need the new IDs this year. I checked because, like you, mine expires next Feb.

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 1:10 PM
posted by justincredible

We don't need the new IDs this year. I checked because, like you, mine expires next Feb.

Thanks. 

Fab4Runner Tits McGee
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 6:25 PM

They introduced the new IDs about 2 months after I renewed mine, so I'll just be using my passport until my current one expires. 

Zunardo Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 21, 2019 11:29 PM

Got my compliant DL in December.  Did not like the idea of it being mailed to me, but I got it in 8 days.  Made sure I was prepared, read the DMV website, had all my documentation lined up - and got in line early.  Mrs. Z's license expires in October this year, so she'll be covered.

Rotinaj Senior Member
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Sat, Jul 27, 2019 6:14 AM

South Dakota public schools now required to have In God We Trust signs posted. What a colossal waste of money this will be. No way this will stand. Would be nice to see whatever dipshits pushed this through shell out the legal fees instead of the taxpayers.

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