Uranium One / Clinton Foundation / obama DoJ corruption

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Apr 30, 2019 10:33 AM

 

You could be correct.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, May 2, 2019 11:25 AM

 

 

Days away from the FISA court bombshells ……..no wonder the dems are going ape-shit in their distraction attempts.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, May 3, 2019 9:01 AM

 

NY Times finally picking up the spying…..just a year late.

 

Also appearing that Mueller knew a year ago there was no collusion and sat on it, ostensibly to let the obstruction entrapment plan linger on.  Hopefully a lot of people are going to be headed to prison.

 

Spock Senior Member
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Fri, May 3, 2019 11:00 AM

I just want to see the raid on the Clintons and them being walked out in handcuffs......that will be good TV

wkfan Senior Member
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Fri, May 3, 2019 11:15 AM
posted by Spock

I just want to see the raid on the Clintons and them being walked out in handcuffs......that will be good TV

Don't hold your breath....they are the 'Royal Family' of the United States and nothing sticks to them.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, May 10, 2019 11:51 AM

 

https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/05/bill-barr-is-going-to-expose-spygate-and-the-democrat-media-russia-collusion-complex-is-panicking/

 

 

Democrats, with help from the mainstream media, will spare no effort to tarnish Barr as a way of discrediting the investigative train that is rolling down the tracks.

Something has changed. Attorney General William Barr has become Public Enemy No. 1 for the Democrats and supportive mainstream media.

It started with Barr’s four-page summary of the Mueller Report’s conclusions, which punctured the almost three year narrative that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. The conclusion of no conspiracy or coordination, accurately summarized in the Barr letter, was verified when the full Mueller Report was released three weeks later.

Barr’s letter also accurately set forth that Mueller did not find obstruction of justice, declining to reach any determination on that issue, instead laying out the arguments for and against. That no obstruction recommendation also was verified when the Mueller Report was released.

Lacking any substantive ground for attacking Barr, Democrats and the media seized on procedure — that Barr framed the media narrative in a way favorable to Trump during this three week period. Apparently, framing a narrative favorable to Trump was not permitted even though the narrative of the Mueller Report in Barr’s letter was accurate.

When Barr testified in Congress that “spying” on the Trump campaign did take place, the attacks on Barr took on a different and more vicious tone. 

That tone went into overdrive during Barr’s testimony earlier this week, when it was revealed that Mueller had expressed concern that Barr’s four-page letter did not include all the context of the full report. But Mueller, according to Barr, did not claim the four-page letter was inaccurate or misleading, rather, the media coverage was the problem.

These are all details, none of which paint Barr in a bad light. But Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi, have decided to accuse Barr of perjury and demand he resign. Barr didn’t commit perjury, not even close, but that’s besides the point to Democrats and the media.

What is going on here? Why are they going after Barr with such ferocity?

It has nothing to do with the Mueller Report, or the four-page summary, or the timing of the release of the full report.

It was Barr’s comments about spying on the Trump campaign, and his pledge to investigate that spying, that explains the frenzy to take down Barr. That spying, regardless of whether lawful, has the potential to be a scandal that could touch deep into the Obama administration, and some former officials who loom large in the anti-Trump resistance.

It also could reach deep into the media, with the involvement of Fusion GPS in feeding Russian-provided, Clinton/DNC paid-for, disinformation to the mainstream journalist community.

So the stakes are huge. The Russian collusion scandal may be a Democrat and media scandal. People may go to jail for that collusion, and if so, they may be the first people to go to jail over Russian collusion involving the 2016 election.

Barr is the single greatest threat to the Democrat-Media Russia Collusion Complex. That’s why Democrats, with help from the mainstream media, will spare no effort to tarnish Barr as a way of discrediting the investigative train that is rolling down the tracks.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, May 10, 2019 12:27 PM

LegalInsurrection?   Sounds credible....

 

I think you'll be as disappointed as the collusion/obstruction loons.  Worst I think we'll see is "over-reach....out of an abundance of caution".  Abuse of power, perhaps.  But I think we'll be lacking actual criminal intent, which would seem very difficult to prove.

I'll be happy with understanding more about the unmasking, the declassifying of info and removing walls for that info being shared among agencies in the last minutes of the Obama Administration (ostensibly to facilitate leaking).  Then of course the various abuses and overreach of the DOJ.

It could all be a nothingburger - loosely predicated, and then people will be debating whether it was all justified or not (similar to the obstruction stuff).

QuakerOats Senior Member
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CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, May 14, 2019 7:48 AM

So will anything come of this or will it be a huge waste of money and time - much like the Mueller investigation?
 

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1128100718060158977
BREAKING: AP source: Barr appoints US attorney to examine Russia probe origins, determine if intelligence collection was lawful.

Could also be smoke for some mirrors?

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Tue, May 14, 2019 10:00 AM

Waste of money like every investigation. 

gut Senior Member
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Tue, May 14, 2019 11:15 AM
posted by like_that

Waste of money like every investigation. 

Maybe.  Finding nothing would be a good result, but I think those questions need explored.  Even if it was just overreach, that's a very serious problem when you are talking about investigating a duly elected POTUS.  The DOJ has a credibility problem.  Comey, directly and indirectly, had a major impact on two elections.  We need to know it's not going to happen again, and that DOJ people didn't abuse their power [primarily because they didn't like an election result].

I really haven't seen anything that justified a lengthy and ongoing investigation into the Trump campaign.  That aspect of it seems like it should have been over quietly and quickly, so we need to know why it wasn't.

gut Senior Member
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Tue, May 14, 2019 11:21 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Could also be smoke for some mirrors?

 

Well, if there wasn't a lot of smoke, I'm not sure Dems would be trying to hard to discredit Barr.  And this isn't exactly new - Nunez and Gowdy have been telling us this stuff for well over a year....but they understandably needed to wait for Mueller to finish.

Something else that stood out to me from the Barr hearing.  Kamala Harris asked if Trump had ordered Barr to investigate anyone.  Suggest?  Imply?  And I couldn't understand what that had to do with the Mueller report.  But it's actually quite obvious what she was doing - Barr is a lackey on a witch hunt ordered by POTUS.

Dems knew this was coming, as everyone really should have.  And they're building the narrative that this is political, that it's payback.  For that to work, you have to destroy Barr's reputation and credibility.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, May 14, 2019 12:04 PM

 

 

There is so much evidence I would hope that it is a slam dunk and indictments can issue before year-end.  It would be best to have the full, clear picture of EXACTLY what happened in 2016/’17 in front of everyone going into the ’20 election year.

 

Obviously the dems do not want this because Barr may well indeed have ability and evidence to destroy them prior to the election.  Although it is the dems that will have actually destroyed themselves with their shocking abuse of powers under the obama administration.

 

Rosenstein’s speech yesterday was a pretty good salvo over the bow of where this is headed ……… a lot of people are in serious trouble, and well they should be.

 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, May 14, 2019 12:09 PM

 

I think the IG report which is imminent will certainly shed a fair amount of light as well.

 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, May 14, 2019 1:20 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

Obviously the dems do not want this because Barr may well indeed have ability and evidence to destroy them prior to the election.  Although it is the dems that will have actually destroyed themselves with their shocking abuse of powers under the obama administration.

 

Well I think the dems that are currently running for office could easily distance themselves from whatever the Obama administration could have possibly done or didn't do. 
"I do not agree with what happened, I would never have done that. You can expect better from me going forward!"

 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, May 14, 2019 2:25 PM

 

 

And what is their front-runner Biden going to say:

 

A – I didn’t know we were illegally spying, even though I was the vice-president.

 

B – I knew we were spying on the opposition’s campaign team and then the Trump administration.

 

 

Lose/lose

geeblock Member
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Tue, May 14, 2019 4:45 PM

This is all a good distraction thread to avoid the tariff stories I guess lol

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, May 14, 2019 4:54 PM

 

I have no problems with the tariffs; neither do most.

 

I do have problems with illegal spying on innocent Americans by those abusing power, as do most.  Justice forthcoming hopefully.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, May 14, 2019 8:29 PM
posted by geeblock

This is all a good distraction thread to avoid the tariff stories I guess lol

Start the convo over in the Disgusted With Trump thread if you want to discuss it. People will join in.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Wed, May 15, 2019 2:47 PM
posted by geeblock

This is all a good distraction thread to avoid the tariff stories I guess lol

Shhh, let the site flatscans have their tinfoil conspiracy theory thread. Keeps them occupied, so they don't accidentally set themselves on fire or something.

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