Progressives, part 3...

jmog Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 8:17 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

It does not mean what you claimed it meant, that it is no more likely than unlikely. That was a lie, sir.

I didn’t say that unvaccinated or vaccinated were more likely, you did.  Your bolded study didn’t help your statement at all.


I said that it’s inconclusive or equal amount of transmissibility among the delta variant.


So what will you say next that I didn’t actually claim?


gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 8:18 PM
posted by jmog

Keep up the ad hominem, but at least get the attacks right..


Then maybe stop ignoring ESTABLISHED science that refutes your beliefs?

You're a fucking hack.  You're QO with a Phd. It's obvious to everyone else with similar bonafides.

jmog Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 8:19 PM

At least Queen is trying to stay on topic, even if he is trying to change what I claimed.


Gut is just going off the rails, a “your mom” joke or “I slept with your wife” joke will be next for him.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 8:19 PM

You claimed that the word potentially has a meaning in scientific journals that it's equally likely or unlikely. That is an incorrect interpretation.

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 8:21 PM

Sorry....the correct term would be "quack"

jmog Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 8:21 PM
posted by gut

Then maybe stop ignoring ESTABLISHED science that refutes your beliefs?

You're a fucking hack.  You're QO with a Phd. It's obvious to everyone else with similar bonafides.

Typically people result to these kinds of posts when they don’t know how to argue their point.


And I don’t have a PhD. Masters in Chemical Engjneering and 2 BS’s (ChemEng and Applied Math).


Once you get back to formulating a coherent response to the argument rather than attacking the person, come back to the topic at hand.


Post a study that contradicts mine, that the viral loads for delta variant is significantly higher in unvaccinated.



gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 8:22 PM
posted by jmog

At least Queen is trying to stay on topic, even if he is trying to change what I claimed.


Gut is just going off the rails, a “your mom” joke or “I slept with your wife” joke will be next for him.

No, I really didn't.  I provided no proof to dispute your equally unproven quack claim.  I simply corrected your misinformation.

Feel free to post your "science" backing your claims.  You know Queen and I will embarass you.

jmog Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 8:24 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

You claimed that the word potentially has a meaning in scientific journals that it's equally likely or unlikely. That is an incorrect interpretation.

No I did not. You again didn’t read what I said.


I said it EITHER means they didn’t test that at all or properly yet they BELIEVE it to be true so said it needs further study.


OR 

It means they did a few tests and got similar/inconsistent results for both “sides” yet they believe one side over the other to be true and said it needs to be studied more.


I never said it means either side is just as likely.


Read again, without changing what I said to suit your argument.


jmog Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 8:26 PM
posted by gut

No, I really didn't.  I provided no proof to dispute your equally unproven quack claim.  I simply corrected your misinformation.

Feel free to post your "science" backing your claims.  You know Queen and I will embarass you.

Already posted an article that linked to a study.


Your turn to dispute it with another study.


Or you think I need to provide like 5 or 10 studies before you stop the ad hominem bullshit?


gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 9:06 PM
posted by jmog

Already posted an article that linked to a study it


Well that settles it then.  One study is gospel.  I'm sure I could shit all over it if it were actually worth my time.

I know you're full of shit.  And so do you.  The difference is, the former is an honest take and the latter is a psychopath.

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 9:08 PM

posted by jmog

Or you think I need to provide like 5 or 10 studies

I'd like to see you try.

You seem like a smart guy.  Yet spread ignorant bullshit on a small message board.  Go Find Yourself.

jmog Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 9:37 PM
posted by gut

Well that settles it then.  One study is gospel.  I'm sure I could shit all over it if it were actually worth my time.

I know you're full of shit.  And so do you.  The difference is, the former is an honest take and the latter is a psychopath.

Ad hominem again, just proves you have lost the debate or just don’t have the ability to develop your own argument.


See, typically how a debate goes is one side gives an argument, backed up by evidence (like the link I provided), and the other then provides their own evidence to back their own argument and explains why their evidence supersedes their other sides evidence.


You appear to believe once someone disagrees with you, even if they provide evidence, that it’s kosher to just act like a complete dickhead to said person like you are in 4th grade (which is why I mentioned I thought your mama jokes were next, you were acting so juvenile).


Calm down, take a xanax, come back in the morning with a valid argument and evidence to back it up. 


I promise I will actually read it even though you didn’t read the one I provided.  


jmog Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 9:46 PM
posted by gut

I'd like to see you try.

You seem like a smart guy.  Yet spread ignorant bullshit on a small message board.  Go Find Yourself.

I see you still don’t understand how this works…



https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/delta-infection-unvaccinated-and-vaccinated-people-have-similar-levels-of-virus


https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-similar-between-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02187-1



There’s 5 links, my original plus 4 more, that ALL say that the delta variant viral load is the same or similar in vaccinated vs unvaccinated.


It’s literally the first 5 or so links based on the simple google search I showed earlier.


I quickly scanned them all and only the CDC link suggested that while the viral loads were similar that vaccinated MAY fight/knock down the viral load faster than unvaccinated making their transmissibility window shorter.


That’s a guess since they don’t know if the unvaccinated are people who had covid and therefore have same or more antibodies than vaccinated.


So, let’s hear your next ad hominem gut.







sportchampps Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 10:28 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Agreed.  When it’s all said and done, his name will probably become a rallying cry.  I bet his dad is disappointed - oh wait, never mind, he’s not involved.  


No because his victim is also black. Also living in Dallas everyone who went to that school says it’s total BS. The kid comes from a rich family and acts like he’s a gangster. Wears all blue and a grill to school most of the time. His social media is filled with him shutting down streets downtown for street racing. All the kids at the school have said he was the bully and choose the wrong kid on the wrong day. Got his ass beat and embarrassed so he came back with a gun. His parents threw him a welcome home party supposedly.


Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 7:33 AM
posted by sportchampps

No because his victim is also black. Also living in Dallas everyone who went to that school says it’s total BS. The kid comes from a rich family and acts like he’s a gangster. Wears all blue and a grill to school most of the time. His social media is filled with him shutting down streets downtown for street racing. All the kids at the school have said he was the bully and choose the wrong kid on the wrong day. Got his ass beat and embarrassed so he came back with a gun. His parents threw him a welcome home party supposedly.


We all know he will be portrayed as a victim in all this and racism will somehow be invoked.  It’s 2021 after all.  


Will BLM get involved?  


QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Oct 12, 2021 10:41 AM
posted by queencitybuckeye

I don't believe in government mandates. I do not fault companies that would go along instead of committing suicide fighting them.



For thousands of employers right now, committing suicide would be going along with a vax mandate.  They are already short a bunch of laborers and are barely scraping by, and then the mandate will cause another 10 - 25% of their workers to walk out.  If OSHA proceeds with the emergency standard mandating the vax, and if successful injunctions are not forthcoming, the labor crisis will become a national catastrophe (if it already hasn't).  We're pissing trillions down a rat hole, and buying ourselves a socialist economy that won't work. 

Fletch Member
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Wed, Oct 13, 2021 6:57 PM

looks like the progs got to the Rolling Stones.

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Oct 13, 2021 11:53 PM
posted by jmog

Did you miss any of the CNN talking points in this horseshit of a post?


Your post immediately above this one said I was "flat wrong" about unvaccinated not being a threat.  I'd try to explain to you how unvaccinated people create threat/risk that aren't directly related to actually giving you Covid, but I have my doubts you're capable of comprehending the logic. 

And the above post is, I believe, an ad hominem attack, unprovoked before I had even directed a post at you.  Then you start with your usual intellectual dishonest tricks of strawman arguments and moving the goal posts, and whine like a bitch when you get called on it. 

Also, viral load =/= contagiousness/transmissibility.  I suspect you know better, but I think we give you too much credit.  You don't understand basic facts, and that's what makes you a hack not worth engaging.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 14, 2021 7:43 AM
posted by Fletch

looks like the progs got to the Rolling Stones.

Saw that.  Very sad the Stones caved.  Morons are incapable of understanding the nuance of Brown Sugar.  Probably the same crowd that listens to rappers talk about murder, rape, n-word etc.  


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 14, 2021 8:37 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Saw that.  Very sad the Stones caved.  Morons are incapable of understanding the nuance of Brown Sugar.  Probably the same crowd that listens to rappers talk about murder, rape, n-word etc.  


Keith Richards even said the song was about the horrors of slavery. These are the same dolts desecrating statues of people who were anti-slavery, thinking they were racist. Research, idiots.

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