Disgusted with the Biden administration

posted by geeblock

Illegal immigrants can get welfare?

If they can vote I wouldn't see this being too difficult for them to accomplish.

Nothing more on the nose than gaslighting us over the price of gas!

posted by geeblock

Illegal immigrants can get welfare?

Depends on the state but absolutely they do in many states. 

Also notice I said welfare programs which is all inclusive safety net programs not just specifically welfare.

Hope that helps.

posted by jmog

Depends on the state but absolutely they do in many states. 

Also notice I said welfare programs which is all inclusive safety net programs not just specifically welfare.

Hope that helps.

what states?

posted by jmog

Also notice I said welfare programs which is all inclusive safety net programs not just specifically welfare.

I was pretty shocked by the numbers, and did some drilling down.  They do pay taxes (not sure exactly how, without a SSN), so I don't see an issue with getting Social Security or EITC.  I don't consider progressive tax features to really be "welfare".

But they are about 50% more likely to receive food and health insurance, which is clearly welfare in the truest sense of the word.

Shocking numbers no matter how you slice it.

Harris in Poland laughing at the presser to cover up her complete lack of knowledge and leadership.  What a worldwide embarrassment.

posted by gut

I was pretty shocked by the numbers, and did some drilling down.  They do pay taxes (not sure exactly how, without a SSN), so I don't see an issue with getting Social Security or EITC.  I don't consider progressive tax features to really be "welfare".

But they are about 50% more likely to receive food and health insurance, which is clearly welfare in the truest sense of the word.

Shocking numbers no matter how you slice it.

I dont see anywhere where illegal immigrants on any type of large scale get benefits except emergency medical care. I do see where their dependent children can receive benefits in some states.

posted by geeblock

I dont see anywhere where illegal immigrants on any type of large scale get benefits

Well, of course you're not going to "see" it if you don't even bother to spend 5 seconds searching.

https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/02/report-more-than-half-of-immigrants-on-welfare.html

posted by gut

Well, of course you're not going to "see" it if you don't even bother to spend 5 seconds searching.

https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/02/report-more-than-half-of-immigrants-on-welfare.html

Non-citiczens and illegal immigrants are two different groups but thanks

One is a sub-set of the other.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/europes-green-energy-policies-strengthened-putin-michael-shellenberger-says

Bingo

posted by QuakerOats

One is a sub-set of the other.

well i was referencing illegal immigrants

posted by geeblock

I dont see anywhere where illegal immigrants on any type of large scale get benefits except emergency medical care. I do see where their dependent children can receive benefits in some states.

Google is your friend.

Hope that helps.

posted by geeblock

Non-citiczens and illegal immigrants are two different groups but thanks

Hope you aren’t believing that those here on H1 work visas and student visas, both of which have to show proof of ability to financially support themselves (or foreign family for student visas)….hope you aren’t insinuating that they are making up the majority of these “non-citizen” numbers using welfare programs.

Because that would be laughable.

posted by jmog

Hope you aren’t believing that those here on H1 work visas and student visas, both of which have to show proof of ability to financially support themselves (or foreign family for student visas)….hope you aren’t insinuating that they are making up the majority of these “non-citizen” numbers using welfare programs.

Because that would be laughable.

Well illegal immigrants make up like what 3% of the population and so if 60% based on your numbers  find a way to get welfare with no SSN who gives a fuck. I just don’t see that it would be that easy to get welfare without a SSN. Like I said maybe it’s counting the children who were born here who can get benefits but idk 

posted by geeblock

Well illegal immigrants make up like what 3% of the population and so if 60% based on your numbers  find a way to get welfare with no SSN who gives a fuck. I just don’t see that it would be that easy to get welfare without a SSN. Like I said maybe it’s counting the children who were born here who can get benefits but idk 

So you go from “can’t/doesn’t happen” to “well, even so it’s such a small percentage of the US it doesn’t matter” real quick…

There are about 60 million total immigrants in the US (47 legal, estimated 13 illegal). If 63% of that number is on some welfare program, that’s 37 million or so.

Based on pure financial studies, legal immigrants make more on average than citizens so it’s safe to assume that the legal immigrant percentage on welfare programs is less than the 35% number of citizens.  If that’s the case then nearly all of the illegal immigrants are receiving some form of welfare.

The total citizens on welfare is 115 million, if you don’t think 37 million immigrants making up about 30% of the total people on welfare is a problem then I wonder what in the world you do consider a problem.

I am of the belief that we accept every single person in the world who wants to come and can prove they can support themselves, just like my good friend from Russia had to do to immigrate to Canada in the 80s.

Airplane mask mandate extended. Good job, Brandon. No one can defend how stupid it is. Thank God there aren’t any mean tweets. 

Lol Biden and Harris working overtime to try and say that government spending didn’t help inflation. Good luck

posted by iclfan2

Lol Biden and Harris working overtime to try and say that government spending didn’t help inflation. Good luck

And funniest thing is CPI excludes - wait for it - food & energy!

I suppose food is being driven by labor & energy prices, because it's not like anyone stopped raising cows or growing corn.

As for everything else, no idea how long it will take to burn-off nearly 2 years of pent-up demand.  That kind of excess capacity just doesn't exist in most industries, and are you going to invest in production only to have to cut it back in a few years when things normalize?

I think this means prices are permanently resetting higher.  Not sure when they stop rising, but the only way production catches up to demand is setting a new equilibrium price.  To say inflation is "transitory" is trying to imply prices will come back down, and that just doesn't happen.  Food and gas, maybe.  But everything else?  Nope.

Ignorance is Strength.

.@SpeakerPelosi: "When we're having this discussion, it's important to dispel some of those who say, well it's the government spending. No, it isn't. The government spending is doing the exact reverse, reducing the national debt. It is not inflationary." pic.twitter.com/6HKE5gX2SP

— The Hill (@thehill) March 12, 2022