LOCKED: Disgusted with progressives

There are currently 765,000 children separated from an active-duty parent. 

posted by QuakerOats

There are currently 765,000 children separated from an active-duty parent. 

 

 

 

 

 

Good point, we should immediately get the military back to being a defense force instead of a decade-long occupier, and give these children their parents back.

Sorry to interrupt, but we have a 30 year update relative to global warming, and it is not favorable to the alarmists.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/thirty-years-on-how-well-do-global-warming-predictions-stand-up-1529623442

posted by gut

I'd add that it has not "always been this way".  Not nearly this bad, nor nearly this prevalent.

 

As long as news has been reported by people, it has always had bias.  The difference now is the information age has spawned an industry of pointing it out daily.  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

As long as news has been reported by people, it has always had bias.  The difference now is the information age has spawned an industry of pointing it out daily.  

Same post as before, bias != agenda where outright lies are acceptable.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Same post as before, bias != agenda where outright lies are acceptable.

Exactly.

And not only that, but there used to be a much clearer distinction between news reporting and opinion on the news.  Injecting opinion into straight news was a no-no.  And opinion pieces, the good ones, discussed both sides of the issue fairly (i.e. you didn't cherry-pick the weak counterarguments to prop-up your view).

In general, what constitutes "journalism" today is, with a few exceptions, almost unrecognizeable 20-30 years ago.

Not just journalism, either.  Politics and agendas have become accepted in economics and science, as well.   My personal favorite is the economist, who's expertise might be US tax policy, presenting BS about global trade as an "expert opinion"....he's not staking career or reputation because this is not research presented to peers, he's literally selling his credentials to be an "expert witness" promoting the host's agenda.  That would have been a cardinal sin 20-30 years ago, and really there were few platforms for an academic to express political views because that had no place in science.

posted by QuakerOats

Sorry to interrupt, but we have a 30 year update relative to global warming, and it is not favorable to the alarmists.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/thirty-years-on-how-well-do-global-warming-predictions-stand-up-1529623442

It's sad to see people who know almost nothing about the climate alarmist cause keep calling people anti-science for rejecting the theory.

CO2 was supposed to be a catalyst for amplifying warming effects.  Assumptions based much more on correlation than on science (correlation was all they had, because they understand so little about the true climate model).  20 years later and it's pretty clear if CO2 is a catalyst for anything, it's for slight COOLING effects (which actually makes senes if you consider the earth has a lot of self-regulating ability).

To say nothing that what little warming has been observed over the past 20 years has been desperately propped-up with a constant revision of past temperatures lower (almost always lower, except when more recent temps are increased to show a positive trend).

I won't bother with all the failed models that formed the basis of global warming alarmism - nothing more than data mining exercises in junk science.

Should be fun to watch in the coming years.  The impact of variations in solar intensity have largely been dismissed in all this, but there's a growing number of scientists who believe we're entering a new solar minimum that will result in flat or likely lower temps.  Which I expect will eventually be acknowledged so that they have an excuse to re-jigger past measurements in order to produce a warming trend again.

So, it looks like the ACLU is backing away from defending free speech and sliding into the slot of cultural marxism. They will also not be defending anyone who exercises their right to bear arms (carrying while marching/protest/etc.) so the 2nd Amendment is sliding off their chart. 

Interesting to note that their income/donations skyrocketed after Trump was elected. As with many other organizations, their principles follow the money.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/leaked-anti-gun-memo-suggests-aclu-hesitant-to-defend-free-speech-if-it-hurts-andaposmarginalized-communitiesandapos/vp-AAyZiGi

https://reason.com/blog/2018/06/21/aclu-leaked-memo-free-speech

More indepth info here:

A loser restaurant owner kicked out Sarah Sanders because she works for Trump. Now the left is mad she tweeted about it. You can’t make this shit up. Bake the fucking cake!

And before someone misinterprets, I’m all for private businesses doing and serving who they want, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be free market consequences. 

posted by iclfan2

A loser restaurant owner kicked out Sarah Sanders because she works for Trump. Now the left is mad she tweeted about it. You can’t make this shit up. Bake the fucking cake!

Same as that ACLU article.....The intolerant left is actually trending toward a sort of Democratic fascism.  They simply want to silence people they disagree with, and they do that by labeling everything they disagree with as either hate speech or anti-science (that one always cracks me up).

These people are a cancer.  They will never stop creating victims to fuel their need to be outraged. 

I think it's great this restaurant owner kicked her out.  If SS knew what an asshat that owner was, I'm sure she would have gone somewhere else for dinner in the first place.

Again, the Left always lashes out lower and more radical than the Right.  Jay Carney was likened to Baghdad Bob, but I never heard of him being refused service or protestors outside his house...or doxxing him.

This restaurant owner is a fool, no argument there. However, taking the moral high ground that “the left” always lashes out lower than “the right” is ludicrous. Extremists on both ends are whack jobs and for every one story that is horrible one end, it’s easy to find one worse on the other. It’s a fool’s errand to try and establish one group’s higher moral fiber. 

I also don’t believe there is this group called “the left” that speaks with one voice. There are all kinds of liberals just like there are all kinds of conservatives. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I also don’t believe there is this group called “the left” that speaks with one voice. There are all kinds of liberals just like there are all kinds of conservatives. 

Do you honestly think a classical liberal would do an action such as the restaurant things (there were two incidents now within days of each other)? I don't think a liberal would do that whatsoever. Hell, I'd bet that a liberal would serve those people and tuck the money into the register. Seven people is a good amount of change to add to your ledgers.

I think it's also a bad idea to try to compare a conservative to a progressive.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This restaurant owner is a fool, no argument there. However, taking the moral high ground that “the left” always lashes out lower than “the right” is ludicrous. Extremists on both ends are whack jobs and for every one story that is horrible one end, it’s easy to find one worse on the other.

Is it?  Not since the abortion clinic bombings in the 80's have I seen any of this behavior from the "right".  And nazi's and hate groups are not the "right", but that's how the Left loves to label them.  What examples from the right can you give me of all these marches and protests, of Doxxing people, etc?

The "whack jobs" on the left are far more numerous and mainstream.  You have celebrities saying F the President, severed head, and all kinds of shit.  There are NYT editorials lamenting how Trump is destroying Democracy.  This is crazy, radical irrational stuff coming from notable, mainstream people.

No, when it comes to offending/bullying/intimidating people you disagree with, no one outdoes the left.  Except possibly Trump himself - so you're starting to understand why people might have voted for him.

On second thought, I wonder if the owner didn't just spot this an an opportunity for free publicity.  Seems you might alienate half your customer base....but just got a ton of free national & local press.

Not to mention, more publicity to come when other virtue signalers want to go their and tweet and take selfies to show how woke they are.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This restaurant owner is a fool, no argument there. However, taking the moral high ground that “the left” always lashes out lower than “the right” is ludicrous. Extremists on both ends are whack jobs and for every one story that is horrible one end, it’s easy to find one worse on the other. It’s a fool’s errand to try and establish one group’s higher moral fiber. 

 

I also don’t believe there is this group called “the left” that speaks with one voice. There are all kinds of liberals just like there are all kinds of conservatives. 

Expected this post out of you. The left has been the complete group of cunts in the last 2 years. Doxxing people, yelling at them at restaurants, not serving them; this shit is all recent. There may not be a “left” per se, but the mainstream left is way farther left then they have ever been, and it’s scary as shit if they ever get in power. 

Laughing out loud imagining if some black person from the obama admin got kicked out of a restaurant. You’re fucking high if you think the outrage wouldn’t have lasted weeks.

posted by iclfan2

Expected this post out of you. The left has been the complete group of cunts in the last 2 years. Doxxing people, yelling at them at restaurants, not serving them; this shit is all recent. There may not be a “left” per se, but the mainstream left is way farther left then they have ever been, and it’s scary as shit if they ever get in power. 

Laughing out loud imagining if some black person from the obama admin got kicked out of a restaurant. You’re fucking high if you think the outrage wouldn’t have lasted weeks.

If a black person from the Obama admin got kicked out of a restaurant, you bet we’d be hearing lots about it.  I’m not sure what’s that got to do with this though. This woman was unfairly treated and we are hearing about it incessantly.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

If a black person from the Obama admin got kicked out of a restaurant, you bet we’d be hearing lots about it.  I’m not sure what’s that got to do with this though. This woman was unfairly treated and we are hearing about it incessantly.

 

 

Actually, the left tweeted about it as a win, UNTIL Sarah tweeted what happened, then all shit broke loose. They then blamed her for being petty and even talking about it. Dude, just accept sometimes the left is dumb as fuck, instead of trying to justify everything. I hope that dudes business goes bankrupt bc people who politicize the free market deserve it.

posted by gut

Is it?  Not since the abortion clinic bombings in the 80's have I seen any of this behavior from the "right".  And nazi's and hate groups are not the "right", but that's how the Left loves to label them.  What examples from the right can you give me of all these marches and protests, of Doxxing people, etc?

The "whack jobs" on the left are far more numerous and mainstream.  You have celebrities saying F the President, severed head, and all kinds of shit.  There are NYT editorials lamenting how Trump is destroying Democracy.  This is crazy, radical irrational stuff coming from notable, mainstream people.

No, when it comes to offending/bullying/intimidating people you disagree with, no one outdoes the left.  Except possibly Trump himself - so you're starting to understand why people might have voted for him.

If Nazis and hate groups aren’t part of the right, why couldn’t you also say these extreme left groups are not part of the left?  These are the extremes from both ends. We hear all about them because we’re saturated with media.  In all reality, the vast majority of the population has nothing in common with any of this.  This restaurant owner, Ted Nugent, that actor that made comments about taking Trump’s kid, Pat Robertson, etc. These guys are good for stories that piss people off. But I all honesty, they are not the type of people you or I encounter in our day. Fox, CNN, Breitbart, MSNBC feed this stuff out to create the false sense that these incidents are part of a greater movement that is threatening our country. That’s a bunch of BS. Sure, our coitry’s divided in a lot of ways. It was divided during the revolution, during the constitutional cenvention, during the civil war, during Teddy Roosevelt’s trust busting, etc. The media published stories thatHamilton was a British agent, that Lincoln was part negro, that the Cubans were raping American woman (to promote outrage and support for the war with Spain), and on and on. After almost 250years, we are not at some unique and unprecedented point. We are merely proceeding on the same journey we’ve always been on. We just happen to live in a time when information about how th sausage is made is much easier to get than in the past. 

I'm coming off a three-day bender at the local race track so my brain is struggling a bit to process, but it seems to me that a place refusing to serve someone because they're a Trumpian is the same as that cake place not making a cake for a gay couple because of their religious belief. If one sucks, the other sucks; if one is cool, the other is cool. Saying one is different from the other is where bias comes in.

posted by Heretic

I'm coming off a three-day bender at the local race track so my brain is struggling a bit to process, but it seems to me that a place refusing to serve someone because they're a Trumpian is the same as that cake place not making a cake for a gay couple because of their religious belief. If one sucks, the other sucks; if one is cool, the other is cool. Saying one is different from the other is where bias comes in.

No one here is going to agree with you.