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QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 4:59 PM

wonder how many people regularly watch this 'stuff'

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 5:44 PM
posted by QuakerOats

wonder how many people regularly watch this 'stuff'

A very good amount. They've got almost 4,000,000 subscribers and I think they're the longest running "show" on youtube. I watch them and other shows like them, such as the Jimmy Dore show (he's originally from TYT) just to keep up with what their thinking with each new thing and to get a better understanding of them.

There have been times that TYT has been pretty spot on, though, believe it or not. Kinda like the blind squirrel finding a nut every now and then.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 7:31 PM

Not to get away from the bullshit immigration fake outrage, but has anyone seen that Harvard is actually trying to reduce the amount of Asians accepted? Wtf. The equal outcome vs opportunity mindset needs to die

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 7:57 PM
posted by iclfan2

Not to get away from the bullshit immigration fake outrage, but has anyone seen that Harvard is actually trying to reduce the amount of Asians accepted? Wtf. The equal outcome vs opportunity mindset needs to die

I wonder if these schools dropped their legacy favoritism (which has to impact 30-40% of the class) if they would need to make any "diversity" allowances at all.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 8:08 PM
posted by iclfan2

Not to get away from the bullshit immigration fake outrage, but has anyone seen that Harvard is actually trying to reduce the amount of Asians accepted? Wtf. The equal outcome vs opportunity mindset needs to die

Classical liberals have been saying for a few years now that Asians were to be the next targets of the SJW crowd to be outed. They were correct. This is a problem when you buy into the progressive stack. Somebody must always be placed higher and lower. Due to Asians' tenacity in succeeding (in this case, test scores), they must automatically be placed lower in the scale of victimhood, hence, they do not require as much "help" because they are seen as being able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 8:59 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Classical liberals have been saying for a few years now that Asians were to be the next targets of the SJW crowd to be outed. They were correct. This is a problem when you buy into the progressive stack. Somebody must always be placed higher and lower. Due to Asians' tenacity in succeeding (in this case, test scores), they must automatically be placed lower in the scale of victimhood, hence, they do not require as much "help" because they are seen as being able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. 

And the plan would have succeeded if it weren’t for you meddling kids.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 9:27 AM

Shocking, but it turns out the left's rallying cry photo is actually deceiving.  Just another example of why these are all crocodile tears.  How much do you want to bet this photo will be all over their protest next weekend?

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-says-little-honduran-girl-time-cover-not-024329900.html

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 10:24 AM

DAD: GIRL ON 'TIME' COVER WAS NEVER SEPARATED FROM MOTHER... 
 

just a little more fake news

 


POLL: Majority Blame Illegal Parents For Crisis... 

media, again, well out of touch ...

 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 10:46 AM
posted by QuakerOats

DAD: GIRL ON 'TIME' COVER WAS NEVER SEPARATED FROM MOTHER... 
 

just a little more fake news

 


POLL: Majority Blame Illegal Parents For Crisis... 

media, again, well out of touch ...

 

If it is all fake news, why did Trump feel compelled to sign an executive order?  For someone who points out daily how out of touch the media is, you consume more of it than seemingly anyone on here.  Try not reading it for a week, you'll feel better.  

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 10:56 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

If it is all fake news, why did Trump feel compelled to sign an executive order?  For someone who points out daily how out of touch the media is, you consume more of it than seemingly anyone on here.  Try not reading it for a week, you'll feel better.  

I hate to defend QO, but the photo is the definition of fake news or at the very least extremely deceiving.  As for the poll, it is a Rasmussen poll.  I'd like to see other polls to average it out, but for the most part I still believe the outrage is very selective and fake.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 11:02 AM
posted by like_that

I hate to defend QO, but the photo is the definition of fake news or at the very least extremely deceiving.  As for the poll, it is a Rasmussen poll.  I'd like to see other polls to average it out, but for the most part I still believe the outrage is very selective and fake.

He's perfectly entitled to chase the fake news stuff everyday.  But to what end?  The media presents a selective view of the world?  So what?  Being outraged by that is then turning around and giving the news media credibility as the only outlet to see the world.  If it is fake, why consume it?  Biased media reporting is as old as time.  So if it is so outrageous, why constantly immerse one's self in it?  

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 11:03 AM
posted by like_that

I hate to defend QO, but the photo is the definition of fake news or at the very least extremely deceiving.  

If a person can't see that the media is out to purposefully spread disinformation, I got a bridge to sell them 

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 11:06 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

He's perfectly entitled to chase the fake news stuff everyday.  But to what end?  The media presents a selective view of the world?  So what?  Being outraged by that is then turning around and giving the news media credibility as the only outlet to see the world.  If it is fake, why consume it?  Biased media reporting is as old as time.  So if it is so outrageous, why constantly immerse one's self in it?  

A selective view is quite different than a deliberate attempt to deceive.

 

Spock Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 11:09 AM

I just take whatever CNN is reporting and think of it as the complete opposite is likely the factual info about the topic.

 

 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 11:12 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

He's perfectly entitled to chase the fake news stuff everyday.  But to what end?  The media presents a selective view of the world?  So what?  Being outraged by that is then turning around and giving the news media credibility as the only outlet to see the world.  If it is fake, why consume it?  Biased media reporting is as old as time.  So if it is so outrageous, why constantly immerse one's self in it?  

Being rattled by QO has forced you to bark up the wrong tree for this specific example.  He is actually right.  The photo is deceptive.   

 

There are plenty of times where QO looks like a classic trumper spewing fake news at actually legitimate news, and you choose to attack the time he is right.  Congrats.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 11:20 AM
posted by like_that

Being rattled by QO has forced you to bark up the wrong tree for this specific example.  He is actually right.  The photo is deceptive.   

 

There are plenty of times where QO looks like a classic trumper spewing fake news at actually legitimate news, and you choose to attack the time he is right.  Congrats.

I'm not disputing the photo is faked.  I guess I was just wondering why the outrage everyday over something that is as old as dirt.  I have a brother who gets pissed off at liberals anew every single day.  It's like Groundhog Day.  I ask him why he subjects himself to the news media if it pisses him off so much.  He claims it is a civic duty to remain informed.  But if your source of information is all lies, how is that keeping informed?

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 11:26 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I'm not disputing the photo is faked.  I guess I was just wondering why the outrage everyday over something that is as old as dirt.  I have a brother who gets pissed off at liberals anew every single day.  It's like Groundhog Day.  I ask him why he subjects himself to the news media if it pisses him off so much.  He claims it is a civic duty to remain informed.  But if your source of information is all lies, how is that keeping informed?

Well if you haven't been paying attention the past week the media  has all of a sudden quadrupled it's coverage on an issue that has been occurring for years.   Now a misleading photo is being used to further enrage the people who all of a sudden decided to be outraged a week ago.  I think it's fair to call it out.

Notice how I posted about the same thing regarding the misleading photo right before QO did, and you only attacked him? Further proves my point that QO has you rattled no matter what. Keep up the good fight though.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 11:44 AM
posted by like_that

Well if you haven't been paying attention the past week the media  has all of a sudden quadrupled it's coverage on an issue that has been occurring for years.   Now a misleading photo is being used to further enrage the people who all of a sudden decided to be outraged a week ago.  I think it's fair to call it out.

Notice how I posted about the same thing regarding the misleading photo right before QO did, and you only attacked him? Further proves my point that QO has you rattled no matter what. Keep up the good fight though.

The Time photo...I get it.  If you want to be swept up by it, you will be.  If you find it outrageous, you'll see it that way.  What's so new about any of that?  

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 11:59 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

The Time photo...I get it.  If you want to be swept up by it, you will be.  If you find it outrageous, you'll see it that way.  What's so new about any of that?  

I am not the right person to ask this question.  Ask this question to the thousands of people (and media) drowning us with crocodile tears and actually believing it's legitimate photo of a child being separated.  Time still hasn't made a correction btw.  I am sure IF they do, it will be after millions see and share the photo.   If you don't think that is a big issue, then I don't know what to tell you.

You definitely like to cherry pick when you use the "guise this happens on both sides" card.   The main difference is the stuff you bring up hardly even is a blip on the radar when it comes to news coverage, meanwhile something like this will dominate the national coverage and discussion for weeks.  Considering where you lean, it makes sense why you think it isn't a big deal. 

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 22, 2018 1:09 PM
posted by like_that

You definitely like to cherry pick when you use the "guise this happens on both sides" card.   The main difference is the stuff you bring up hardly even is a blip on the radar when it comes to news coverage, meanwhile something like this will dominate the national coverage and discussion for weeks.  Considering where you lean, it makes sense why you think it isn't a big deal. 

I'd add that it has not "always been this way".  Not nearly this bad, nor nearly this prevalent.

You'd think there's a golden opportunity for an actual unbiased, objective and accurate news source.  But the simple fact is they all became highly partisan because the eyeballs and clicks went to where people could hear the things they agree with.

Another funny example of unintended consequences from the "resist" movement is that I think Breitbart readership like quadrupled.  Literally the day after Trump brought Bannon onto the campaign, the left invented the term "alt right" and made a fringe news site ground zero for the "movement".

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