posted by CenterBHSFanI think Biden is the only one who could stand toe to toe with Trump, to be frank. Trump would savage anybody else and they wouldn't have the wherewithal to snap back up where I think Biden *could*.
There would be attack ads of Biden rubbing all over little girls and the race would be over. Shoot, Booker or Harris May do that to him in the primaries.
I think Biden is the dem's best chance, but people forget he is a moron when he doesn't have Obama's shadow covering all of his flaws.
posted by QuakerOats
Fail, they even said in the article that generic D vs R(Trump) is in favor of the D. So basically if you add up all the odds for all the Ds it is better odds than Trump.
You either failed math or just spread lies that you want to agree with.
posted by SpockReally? Biden is a blubbering idiot. Trump will get Biden all fired up and Biden will crack.
Maybe so, but he'd spank Trump in MI/WI/PA. Trump needs to hold at least one of those to be re-elected.
The real question is Biden enough to win the primary? I have an eerie feeling that Bernie will have a large enough base the entire primary while everyone else cannibalizes the vote. Kinda like Trump with the GOP primary.
Hogan is making rumblings as head of the R Governor Association. He made some interesting comments about the RNC really protecting Trump from a primary.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/21/larry-hogan-2020-trump-1179635
Kind of adds more smoke to the idea he is running.
posted by jmogFail, they even said in the article that generic D vs R(Trump) is in favor of the D. So basically if you add up all the odds for all the Ds it is better odds than Trump.
You either failed math or just spread lies that you want to agree with.
Excuse me, I merely posted a link; I did not make any comments.
And to correct your inference, it was a generic D vs a generic R – not Trump –
wherein the D had an edge.
Take care.
The D in that equation will eventually be a socialist hence it wont be voted for.
Why don’t the socialists run as socialists instead of hiding behind the democrat moniker? Libertarians run as libertarians.
posted by QuakerOats
Why don’t the socialists run as socialists instead of hiding behind the democrat moniker? Libertarians run as libertarians.
and lifelong Democrats run as Democrats instead of switching sides to be the 45th president.
posted by queencitybuckeyeand lifelong Democrats run as Democrats instead of switching sides to be the 45th president.
Given the significant shift to the left of the political spectrum, an 80’s democrat is easily a republican today.
posted by QuakerOats
Given the significant shift to the left of the political spectrum, an 80’s democrat is easily a republican today.
Do you have a tissue, there's a couple of drops on your chin.
Listening to Sanders town hall. Wow he is in la la land.
Please keep in this. The debates with Trump will be awesome
Sanders’ team with some exceedingly choice words for Clinton and her team; gotta love it.
Fake news.
posted by queencitybuckeyeand lifelong Democrats run as Democrats instead of switching sides to be the 45th president.
Reagan did it too...he was a lifetime democrat. Problem is the Democrats keep going further and further left leaving the middle of the road Democrats to choose whether to stay or switch sides.
posted by jmogReagan did it too...he was a lifetime democrat. Problem is the Democrats keep going further and further left leaving the middle of the road Democrats to choose whether to stay or switch sides.
What?
Reagan was not a life long Democract. He grew up a FDR D sure, but then in the 50s switched parties. He was a Goldwater conservative from the 60s on.
Now, sure I agree on your second point. But, I would also add the R party to that too. The Rs have moved so far to the right over the last 10 years, that moderates do no exist. I think MD Governor Hogan is really the only known popular moderate R out there. It is why I am hoping he throws his hat in the ring.
posted by jmogReagan did it too...he was a lifetime democrat. Problem is the Democrats keep going further and further left leaving the middle of the road Democrats to choose whether to stay or switch sides.
Yeah, keep blaming the dems! Classic jmog
posted by ptown_trojans_1What?
Reagan was not a life long Democract. He grew up a FDR D sure, but then in the 50s switched parties. He was a Goldwater conservative from the 60s on.
Now, sure I agree on your second point. But, I would also add the R party to that too. The Rs have moved so far to the right over the last 10 years, that moderates do no exist. I think MD Governor Hogan is really the only known popular moderate R out there. It is why I am hoping he throws his hat in the ring.
If you go by the pew research that plots where each party is on the political spectrum, the Rs moved closer to the middle during the Bush years and have recently started moving right. They still aren't "far right" compared to where they were prior to Bush. The dems on the other hand slowly were moving left, it started to pick up with obama and apparently took a rocket ship to the left after 2016. I posted the link to the research before, but now I can't find it smh.
posted by like_thatIf you go by the pew research that plots where each party is on the political spectrum, the Rs moved closer to the middle during the Bush years and have recently started moving right. They still aren't "far right" compared to where they were prior to Bush. The dems on the other hand slowly were moving left, it started to pick up with obama and apparently took a rocket ship to the left after 2016.
That's exactly my perception. There's this meme about the Republican party moving way to the right, but that's just leftwing propaganda. The party leadership continues to be very moderate. Trump is not even a real Republican, and others that get a lot of headlines (Cruz, Bachman - the left's AOC, even Rubio) don't hold much influence in the party.
Yeah, you do have the small Tea Party contingent that is pretty hard right that made life difficult on the majority (not unlike what the Dems are starting to deal with with AOC and others), but the party as a whole remains mostly moderate.
